Even in our generally progressive, more accepting world, when a family member comes out as transgender, it is still an adjustment.
Though deep down, they are still entirely the same person they always were, it might still take time to get used to addressing them by a new name and a new set of pronouns.
Though what's most important is that they have our encouragement and support, as they have finally found the courage to live as their true selves, only to likely find themselves judged and marginalized by far too many people.
Which is why we sometimes must choose our words very carefully around them.
While Redditor dressdo was surprised when their husband came out as trans, they still wanted to support her as best they could, for the sake of their son.
However, there was one particular element of their ex's behavior which the original poster (OP) noticed was taking its toll on their son.
As a result, the OP felt they had no other choice than to address this issue with their former spouse.
And when they did, their spouse did not take kindly to what they had to say.
Worried they had made a terrible mistake, the OP took to the subReddit "Am I The A**hole" (AITA), where they asked fellow Redditors:
"AITA for asking my transsexual ex-wife to dress more appropriately?"
The OP explained how their ex was making their son increasingly uncomfortable with their choice of clothes, but things did not go well when they tried to address this issue with her.
"My former husband (42) came out as a transsexual woman last year."
"As a male he had recently started to get into crossdressing but assured me it was just a fetish, so I was taken by surprise when he came out as he was always a very traditional, masculine guy."
"She, now Laura, has not started HRT yet but is living full time as a woman."
"Laura and I no longer live together but we share custody of my son, 10."
"Ever since I moved out and Laura has started living on her own, she has started to dress in extreme clothing."
"She's gone from wearing relatively normal dresses and skirts to microminis, fishnets, big heels, the full nines, and bold makeup too."
"Laura is a tall woman, 6'4 or so, so in the heels she is very visible and this is what had brought on my current issue."
"I am fine with what Laura wants to wear privately but my son is having an extremely hard time with it, especially when it comes to her picking him from school or taking him out for food."
"Recently he had a breakdown over it and told me that it was so bad he didn't even want to go to school anymore, and that everyone knew him as the 'drag queens son'."
'I tried to talk about this privately to Laura, but she gave me the cold shoulder over the phone."
"My son asked me to come out with him next meeting so we could bring it up together there."
"The moment she walked in all eyes were on us because of what she was wearing."
"People were obviously listening and when I gently tried to bring up the topic and explain how our son was feeling, Laura became incredibly loud and angry over it and accused me of feeding my son lines because I was jealous of her confidence."
"To make matters worse, a table of nearby girls decided to join in and hurl abuse at me and tell me that I was a piece of shit for saying what I was."
"My son and I left in tears but Laura did not seem to give a single damn about how distraught he was and seemed to just be loving all the attention."
"Ever since then I've been torn wondering if my own personal feelings are getting in the way of things and I was a bad person for asking Laura to tone things down, especially given she felt she had to repress herself for so many years."
"I'm extremely shaken by having a group of complete strangers step in and wonder if I've gotten old and out of touch."
"It just breaks my heart to see my son becoming so withdrawn and upset over this."
"AITA for speaking to my ex this way?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in on where they believed the OP fell in this particular situation by. declaring:
- NTA – Not The A**hole
- YTA – You're The A**hole
- NAH – No A**holes Here
- ESH – Everyone Sucks Here
The Reddit community agreed that the OP was not the a**Hole for asking their ex to think about their clothing choices when around their son.
Everyone agreed that the issue at hand had nothing to do with the fact that their ex was a transgender woman, and she should have been more sympathetic to her son's feelings, and no parent should dress inappropriately, or in a provocative or sexual manner, around their children.
"I am a former school administrator and I can tell you that regardless of gender or trans status, parents who dress 'flamboyantly' embarrass their children."
"I have seen kids hide when that see their parents coming because of the way the parents are dressed."
"The child's feelings need to come first."- glensueand
"NTA."
"If you take the trans out of the equation, kids would still make comments to your son that his mother picks him up from school in high heels, fishnets and mini skirts."
"Your ex's confidence in wearing revealing/extreme clothing shouldn't take priority over your kid getting bullied every day."
"Which will happen if your ex picks your son up every day dressed like that."
"Yeah kids are a**holes but there's not a lot that can be done about that."
"What happens when your son hits breaking point and either wants to stop seeing your ex altogether or ends up getting some serious depression from the constant bullying?"- ColdCoops
"NTA."
"It has nothing to do with her and everything to do with your son."
"While Laura may be figuring out her style as a woman, she needs to come back down to earth and realize that she's a parent first and foremost."- enitsirhcbcwds
"NTA."
"You are helping your son speak up."
"You may need to have a therapist or school resource step in to mediate, rather than you, if Laura can't receive it from you."
"Probably also not a great idea to bring it up in a public place, but not your fault that Laura blew up."-MarianaTrenchBlue
"NTA."
"My father came out as trans years ago."
"While I respect her decision to do what she did, she would say and do things that made me extremely uncomfortable."
"Tell me she was always jealous of me for being a girl, buy wigs that she told me looked like my hair, etc."
"Whenever I voiced my discomfort, I was labeled 'transphobic' or 'unsupportive' by family members."
"People don't really think about what family on the other side goes through, only what the person coming out as trans goes through, when really, both sides have valid feelings that need to be respected."
"She is not taking into account the effect she is having on your son and being extremely selfish."-Glass_Comet
"NTA."
"But, I see this happen to almost every transwoman I've ever met."
"Shortly after they begin to transition they dress like a 12 year old's interpretation of what's sexy."
"They spent all their lives basically learning feminine expressions of sexuality from the male pov."
"Plus they want to experiment with anything they couldn't get away with as a man."
"She's going through this phase."- Zeen13
"NTA It's confusing enough for your son to have a father that realizes he is a she, but dressing suggestively, regardless of sex, around your 10 year old child to the point that it makes him uncomfortable is inappropriate."
"You, and especially your son, should be able to sit down and talk to your ex in a civilized manner."
"Probably best to do it in a private setting in the future to keep the nosy people out of the picture."-PartyCat78
"NTA."
"I'm a trans woman, pre-HRT, about the same 'stage' that Laura seems to be now, but I'm a little bit younger."
"Laura needs to learn to code-switch and save the fishnets and stripper heels for some other time and some other place."
"There's plenty of situation-appropriate womens clothes she would be able to look femme in, and isn't it kinda her responsibility to figure that out now?"
"I hope that's not too shitty to say, but I don't know of any cis mothers who would show up to their kids' elementary school dressed like Alaska Thunderf*ck every day."- ofcshepicksems
The OP's ex has certainly gone through a lot, and still faces a long journey ahead.
However, she must also consider that this is also a lot for her young son to deal with.
So even if no one should have any opinion as to what she should and should not wear, or how to behave, she might want to factor in her son's feelings.
Particularly if she wants their relationship to remain strong.















Trans Man Considers Breaking Off Engagement After Fiancé Wants Him To Wear A Dress For Wedding
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A lot of people often say, "Believe people when they tell you who they are the first time."
It's one of life's truest (and ignored) sayings.
Believe a person when they are drunk and spew words as well.
Often, a few drinks will help a person let loose on how they really feel.
And then take note.
Redditor dude-e23 wanted to discuss his experience and get some feedback, so naturally, he came to the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subreddit.
He asked:
The Original Poster (OP) explained:
"Hi, I'm sorry for the potentially bad English; it's not my first language anyway."
"I'm a 26-year-old male who recently got engaged to my fiancè, a 28-year-old male."
"For the sake of the story, I'm going to call him Mark."
"I'm a trans man, and this will be relevant to the story."
"Mark and I have been going out for 4 years, and I wasn't on testosterone when we met, and only started recently."
"Mark had never had any issues with my gender identity; he always respected my pronouns and my gender, or so I thought."
"Recently, we were over at his parents' when the topic of the wedding planning came up."
"His mom asked about our wedding outfits, and Mark, who was a bit drunk at this point, said, 'I want to put (my name) in a dress so SHE can be prepared for HER future wifey duty.'"
"I was stunned, and I could see how uncomfortable his mom was."
"I said we were leaving and took Mark home."
"It happened yesterday, and I'm genuinely thinking of breaking it off."
"I've struggled a lot with my identity, and a big part of my family cut me off after my coming out."
"Right now, Mark is at work, and I pretended to be asleep when he left, but now I can't stop overthinking small details like how he used some feminine term in bed or how he always hated when I cut my hair short."
"But maybe he thought it was funny, and he was too drunk to realize what he was saying."
The OP was left to wonder:
Redditors shared their thoughts on this matter and weighed in on some options to the question, AITA:
Redditors declared that OP was NOT the A-hole.
"Yeah, so it turns out that this isn't the case."
"Please don't marry him."
"He fundamentally doesn't respect who you are."
"And to be honest, this would be a disturbing enough statement if you were a woman."
"You can't tie yourself down to this person." ~ HighRiseCat
"Yes! It would still be icky and questionable for him to say this if OP presented as a CIS female - but the fact that OP is a trans man makes it horrifying. WTF?!" ~ MarionberryOk2874
"NOR. I'm a cisgender, heterosexual married woman, so my experience with dating is very different from yours, but if my fiancé said 'She will be wearing a modest dress to get used to life as a married woman' or 'She needs to wear a low cut dress, so I can see what I'm buying' or anything along those lines, I would have called it off quickly."
"The dismissal of your identity is problematic as hell, but so is the little hint that married life will be radically different and not in a lovely, better way."
"Your wedding attire should reflect you, your identity, your values, comfort, and inspire confidence."
"You deserve that."
"Everyone deserves that." ~ ankareeda
"NOR, have a direct conversation with him about this, and don't get legally entangled with him."
"He shouldn't be thinking this is funny anyway; drunkness is not an excuse here, you're his partner of many years." ~ Fit_Square1322
"If these things that he says are coming out when he's drunk, that probably means he's thinking about these issues of your gender presentation, but he's not telling you what he's thinking."
"He sounds very emotionally immature and not ready for marriage." ~ GreenDirt2
"Bro, drunk words are sober thoughts with the volume turned up."
"Thought it was funny isn’t a defense."
"It’s a confession."
"He told his mom who he actually thinks you are."
"You survived your family cutting you off to live as you."
"You don’t owe anyone a second round of that grief because your fiancé can’t handle pronouns after 4 years." ~ BabydolllVibess
"Oh, my God??!!"
"Dude, that’s crazy. Please dump his as*."
"He clearly doesn’t see you as a man, and if you marry him, you’re resigning yourself to a life of being misgendered, and he’s probably gonna try and detransition you or feminize you (seeing as he wants you to wear a DRESS)."
"Also, I’m a trans dude, and I think it’s important that you hear a fellow trans man say this."
"You need to leave."
"You’re a man, and it’s insane that he’s trying to make you feel like you aren’t."
"The breakup will probably suck, but if you stay with him, it’ll be 100x worse." ~ mothmn_9
"NOR, I’ve learned drunk people usually speak more honestly than they mean to."
"I’d guess his mask slipped off; this is certainly grounds for leaving if he can’t accept who you are as you are." ~ Defiant_Tea_8722
"You’re not overreacting."
"I don’t think he actually respects you and who you are as a person."
"He called you feminine things all throughout your relationship."
"Maybe he never accepted you, and I’m sorry."
"I know that's a lot, but I know you will find someone who actually respects you and cares for you truly." ~ Due_Classic_4090
"Some people would tell you that people say things they don’t mean when they’re drunk. I think that’s BS."
"In my experience, it just removes their filter, and everything they say has an underlying truth to it."
"Knowing your gender identity and what you prefer, his words seem very disrespectful towards you and inconsiderate of your feelings, and being drunk isn’t a good enough excuse."
"If you have doubts, don’t just brush them off; trust your gut." ~ Kitchen_Process_8351
"NOR."
"I’m a cis woman, but my first serious relationship was with a trans man."
"Frankly, he was abusive, and I don’t even like or respect him, but still I would NEVER misgender him, because I sincerely understand that he’s a man."
"And I’m not an a**hole."
"Your partner is an a**hole." ~ tigalicious
"NOR. That’s a major breach of trust."
"Your relationship has gone on long enough for him to know that sh*t isn’t cool and is not a matter to joke over, even if he’s drunk (unless he has a drinking problem, in which case he needs to address that before marriage and work to make amends)." ~ Moist_Drippings
"NOR. It sounds like he might be counting on your gender identity to be 'just a phase' and that after the marriage, he’ll expect you to embody the 'wifely' role fully."
"He isn’t taking you seriously as a man, and it doesn’t sound like he’s actually on board for a homosexual marriage."
"Get out of there!" ~ Amwfgoddess
"NOR. My biggest concern is the potential for abuse - wifey duty?"
"Not even a conservative man says something like that."
"It's a pure trash statement."
"My first marriage was to an addict... 'DRUNKEN WORDS ARE SOBER THOUGHTS!'"
"😔 I'm so sorry. 🫂" ~ pashinates
OP returned with an UPDATE:
"I dont know if this is how you update, but anyway..."
"Mark and I are done."
"He came home from work an hour and a half ago, and I made him dinner so we could eat and talk."
"I told him what he said deeply hurt me, that I felt like he didn't respect me and saw me as a woman."
"He said that until recently he always saw me as a man, even though I'm the more feminine side (whatever that means), but since I've started taking testosterone, he realized he was less attracted to me and started to resent me."
"Which is f**king weird because my appearance didn't even change that much, and that he needed to take the 'lead' of the relationship again."
"By then, I had heard enough."
"I made it clear we were done and that this type of behavior was not okay and that it'll never be okay."
"That he had to go to therapy and work on his insecurities, but that I couldn't stay with him."
"At this point, he was apologizing and almost pleading with me to stay, but I really did not want to stay, so I took all my essentials and called my friend."
"I'm currently waiting for her to pick me up."
"I'm so confused about how someone I loved so much could betray me like that."
"I'll ask my friend and her husband if they can go back to take my other stuff later on because I really don't want to see him."
"I'm safe, my friend set me up in the guest bedroom, and I'm so grateful I have her."
"Mark and his family have been blowing up my phone."
"His mom, bless her heart, has only asked how I was and said that no matter what, she'll always see me as her son and that she's sorry about Mark's behavior, but his dad and brother have been sending me very insulting texts that included slurs."
"Mark threatened to 'go get me,' but luckily, he doesn't know where my friend lives."
"Honestly, I don't even recognize the man I was with."
"I'm thinking about moving to another city where I could live with my cousin until I'm back on my feet, but that's a whole other story."
"I'm planning to keep in contact with Mark's mom, and I'll be meeting up with her on Thursday."
"Thank you so much for opening my eyes and for making me realize Mark's behavior was not normal."
This is such a heartbreaking story.
So sorry you had to go through this, OP.
Reddit is loudly 1000% with you.
It's wonderful that you have love and support.
Stay strong.