Generally, people who have an interest in getting married someday have some ideas about how their wedding day will look, like what they will wear or what their wedding cake might look like.
But most who are interested in marriage have very specific thoughts about their future rings, agreed the "Am I the A**hole?" (AITA) subReddit.
Redditor krazykupcakes99 had already talked with her future husband about the kind of engagement ring she would love to have when he proposed.
But when he took his mother's opinions into account, the Original Poster (OP) was shocked.
She asked the sub:
"AITA for asking for a new engagement ring?"
The OP was surprised by what happened when her fiancé proposed.
"My (25 Female) boyfriend/fiancé (27 Male) proposed to me the other day."
"We have talked about getting married before this happened, and I have told him exactly what kind of ring I wanted, down to the shape and band."
"When he proposed to me, the ring wasn't anything close to what we have previously talked about."
An argument ensued about the engagement ring.
"I accepted the proposal, of course, but last night, he brought up that his mother actually picked out the ring."
"He asked me what I thought about it, so I told him honestly what I thought and asked if we could get a different one."
"He got upset and told me I was being ungrateful and that I should be happy that he even got me a ring."
"He said that his mom was the one to pick it out so I should just wear it."
His mother lashed out at the OP, as well.
"Today, his mom called me, basically telling me that I have no taste in jewelry and that I should just go with what she said."
"I get that he spent a lot of money on this ring, but we have talked about what I wanted before, and I'm going to be the one wearing this."
"Am I being ungrateful for asking for a new ring?"
"AITA?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
- NTA: Not the A**hole
- YTA: You're the A**hole
- ESH: Everybody Sucks Here
- NAH: No A**holes Here
Some were concerned about what this said about the fiancé's commitment to the OP.
"Are you sure you want to marry this guy? He disregarded everything you wanted and just went with what his mom says is best, then mom even calls you to tell you why you're wrong for wanting something different. The audacity."
"My guess is this will be a recurring pattern. Be prepared for his mom to be the one planning your wedding for you. And choosing your children's names. And how you'll raise them."
"Your fiancé needs to grow a spine and stands up for you and sets some boundaries with dear old mum. Good luck. NTA." - ants-in-my-plants
"It's nuts that he thinks that op is supposed to realize that her personal tastes must be wrong because it's not what his mother would want." - SpecialistFeeling220
"I once had a fiance who did the same. d**n. thing."
"I told him I didn't want a solitaire diamond because I was afraid it would catch on things, and he got furious with me because his mom and sister had solitaire engagement rings, so my having different taste was somehow insulting to them?"
"Guess what kind of ring I got? Thankfully, I came to my senses before the wedding and called it off."
"Then he tried to threaten me with a lawsuit for 'breach of contract' (he was in law school), since I'd agreed to marry him and was backing out. I was well shot of him. NTA." - Specific_Tangelo5720
"Getting a different ring shouldn't be a big deal. Lots of jewelers have a ring exchange program to ensure the future bride is able to get the ring she wants. Some jewelers even accept rings from their competitors."
"The fact that OPs fiance doesn't want to exchange the ring is weird." - Affectionate-Loon28
"I think she should give the ring back and tell her boyfriend to give it to his mother since obviously this ring is all about her and not OP and that she hopes they'll be very happy together."
"This reminds me of an episode of 'Everybody loves Raymond' where Ray and his wife Debra are having some marital discord. Talking about it in front of Ray's parents and his brother, Ray makes a comment about someone to take care of him."
"Debra says that's not a wife, that's a mother, and Ray says, 'Maybe that's what I want,' and realizes one second too late what he just said and a look of horror crosses his face, except I don't know if OP's boyfriend would get that same look of horror."
"NTA, but I fear you might be if you go ahead with this marriage. Go read the recent posting from a woman whose MIL moved in with them for supposedly 2 weeks and now months later, they can't get rid of her, and her son/husband isn't putting much effort into getting her out."
"That could be you, OP." - Elementary57
"OP should just go to a jeweler who will exchange the ring for the one she wants."
"If FMIL (Future Mother-in-Law) remarks about it and her fiance doesn't back OP up, that'll tell her all she needs to know about where his primary loyalty lies." - Rodney_Copperbottom
"I would go to the jeweler and ask if I could get a new fiance. He already took his stance by saying, 'But mommy picked it for you.'"
"That ring, even if she went by herself and exchanged it, would never be a symbol of their love, to be honest. It would just be a reminder that, 'My mommy knows best,' and that he didn't even decide a thing about that ring." - Dangerous-WinterElf
Others were more concerned about the mother-in-law's (MIL's) involvement.
"MIL coming in hot as the top wife. OP is just the companion animal to her fiance and his mom's marriage." - wildferalfun
"OP has a much more important role to fulfill: Become the incubator that gives his mom (the real wife) the grandbabies she 'deserves.'" - melympia
"She's not going to worry about raising kids for a while. She's going to OBSESS over the honeymoon, to make sure that it achieves its solitary objective of OP coming back pregnant."
"OP, your MIL is the type who feels that if your first anniversary isn't spent breastfeeding, something has gone TERRIBLY wrong." - Docthrowaway2020
"OP. Please don't try to think your marriage will be okay anyway. You'll be no different than many who've been through this before."
"If the MIL thinks it's her business to tell you your taste in rings is unsatisfactory AND her son stands up for her, please run and don't doubt your decision."
"I was like this. The incubator for his family. First of importance, it was his family, next his friends, next even what our children wanted with just him if I wasn't quick enough to catch him doing what I asked him to wait for me so we could do together."
"The pattern is clear already. I think it was a gaslighting situation; I kept questioning if I was wrong to feel objectified. No way to live. I got out."
"That last part about the children sounds weird so I'll explain: I bought and wrapped all the Christmas presents for four children. My sister called on Christmas morning and kept talking (Maybe 10 minutes). I tried to get off the phone and was holding up a finger to ask for just a moment."
"By the time I got into the living room, all presents were open, paper everywhere. I started yelling, 'I'm just a pawn for your family.' Yes, I was nuts but in shock. No respect at all." - Solidst
"Best headline for this dynamic. ever. created. Serious talk right now, OP. Do you want these two to own you for the rest of your life? Run, while that ring is still removable." - Maleficient_Can1946
"OP, I hope you're ready for a lifetime of being the third wheel in your fiance's relationship with his mom." - HPfan94
"My husband told me that his mother wanted to 'hold onto' my ring after he picked it up but before it was given to me."
"Her logic, which isn't all that horrible on the surface, was that he lived in an apartment at the time and didn't have a safe to keep an expensive ring in."
"He declined her offer and kept the ring hidden in his apartment."
"Knowing what I know now, I'm glad he didn't let her get her hands on it. She would have 'lost' it or 'damaged' it or something."
"He didn't even let her see it before he gave it to me. He told her that I should be the first to see it since it was my ring."
"NTA, OP." - OBNurseScarlett
"Even getting the wrong ring I can forgive. Maybe he wanted it to be a surprise (still not great, but acceptable, in my opinion), but once you said you didn't like it, he should have understood and taken you to get the ring you do want."
"I'd ask him if he's marrying his mother, otherwise why does her taste in jewelry matter?"
"This is very likely to become a pattern. My ex was like this. At best, it's annoying, and at worst, it's going to build, and MIL is going to be dictating how you raise your kids. Don't let that happen." - milapa6
The subReddit was concerned when they heard how the OP's fiancé reacted to her desire for a different engagement. The fact that he took his mother's feelings into account more than his future wife's, quite frankly, spoke volumes.















Humiliated Redditor Ditches Friend's Birthday After She Publicly Mocks Them In Front Of Everyone
Fake people tend to show their true colors during pivotal moments, like weddings and major celebrations.
But when they want an audience to hurt someone else, it takes total sense that they would be called out in front of everyone, as agreed by members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subreddit.
Redditor HollyyGinger went to their close friend's birthday party, expecting to have a good time and celebrate their loved one's special day.
But when their close friend made several mocking comments about them, and the party laughed along with them, the Original Poster (OP) took that as an indication of the state of their friendship and left the birthday party early.
They asked the sub:
The OP was excited to celebrate their close friend's birthday.
"One of my close friends had a birthday dinner last weekend, and I was genuinely excited to go."
"I helped her organize a few things beforehand, bought her a gift, and even rearranged some plans because I wanted to be there for her."
But the birthday dinner did not go at all how the OP expected.
"During dinner, though, she started making little jokes about me in front of everyone."
"At first, I laughed along because I didn't want to make things awkward on her birthday."
"But she kept going. She joked about dating life, brought up an embarrassing story I had told her privately, and made another comment about how I'm ''way too sensitive' sometimes."
"People were laughing, and I tried to act like it didn't bother me, but honestly, I felt pretty humiliated."
The OP tried to ask their friend to change the direction of the rest of the party.
"I quietly asked her when we were alone if she could stop making me the joke of the evening."
"She rolled her eyes and said I was taking everything too seriously and that everyone knew she was joking."
"I went back to the table for a while because I really didn't want to ruin her birthday."
"But then she made another joke about me, so I decided I'd had enough. I congratulated her again, said goodbye to everyone, and went home without making a scene."
The OP's friend tried to blame them for how the evening turned out.
"The next morning, she texted me, saying she was hurt that I left early and that several people noticed."
"She said that I made her feel like she had done something horrible when she was 'just having fun.' But her having fun was more of a public embarrassment to me."
"Now I feel guilty, because it was her birthday, and maybe I could have just ignored it for another hour or two."
"I wasn't trying to punish her or make the night about me. I just didn't want to sit there smiling while someone I trusted kept embarrassing me after I had specifically asked her to stop."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that she didn't have to stay at a party where she didn't feel welcome.
"She was having fun. You were not having fun."
"You’re not overreacting. You told her it was hurting you, and she kept doing it because hurting you was entertaining for her. She is not a good friend." - Dunquinn-
"I remember when I was really little, a bunch of adults were laughing at me as I cried."
"I cried to my mom, 'Stop laughing at me,' to which she replied, 'We aren’t laughing at you; we're laughing with you,' while giggling."
"My response was something I stand by to this day: 'Then why am I the only one crying?!'"
"It’s only funny if the person who’s being teased is laughing too. You weren’t laughing. It wasn’t funny; it was cruel. NOR." - XSmartypants
"She’s a bully. It wasn’t 'more like 'it was publicly embarrassing. It WAS publicly embarrassing."
"Then she tells you that SHE is embarrassed because YOU left early. That's bulls**t."
"NOR. Drop her." - WTH_JFG
"NOR. They make jokes about someone's privacy to humiliate that person. Anyone who would use info that was shared in confidence to get a laugh is an abuser. You don't do that, especially to a close friend, without the intent to hurt that person." - BungenessKrabb
"Would it have been fun if you did the same? Start telling her darkest secrets?"
"She made you into a punchline for other people’s entertainment."
"You told her to stop, and she didn’t; now she’s the victim?"
"NOR."
"But also, some people need to feel it to believe it. I hope you go to the next gathering with a few stories of your own and don’t let her rewrite the narrative." - beached_not_broken
"I’ve had it happen by my 'best friend' at the time, only it was in a professional setting event. Very personal details only she knew, all spilled for her amusement, embarrassing me in front of colleagues."
"NOR, OP. As you did, I left the gathering earlier than expected. My 'friend' called the next day asking why I left so early. I told her what she had said and done and how humiliated I felt."
"Her 'apology' was that flippant version that shows no remorse, like, 'Well, I’m sorry you feel that way.'"
"Over the subsequent years, she managed to alienate and burn bridges with most of those same people we were gathered with."
"I’m sorry this happened to you, OP. Anyone who thinks you were 'too sensitive' has no empathy and 'friends' like that don’t deserve your time." - Hungry_Tank9182
"NOR. She was being a jerk to you, and she was expecting you to just take it and not say anything or defend yourself."
"Because they think it's sooo funny to mock others, but I bet if the roles were reversed, she would be offended and upset."
"Honestly, you deserve better friends. I'm sorry you had to deal with this."
"I would've left and blocked her." - Cryslove
Others urged the OP to stop thinking about the event and let that friendship go.
"That was the point of her fun! Humiliating you with an audience!"
"Sharing something deeply personal, told in confidence? Immediate dealbreaker."
"She is not (and likely never was) your friend. Friends do not treat friends with such disrespect. Block her, and go no contact. She brings nothing good to your life, and she’s not worthy of your energy and time."
"NOR." - MizPeachyKeen
"It’s called bullying. She is not your friend. Friends don’t humiliate their true friends, or tell them 'they are too sensitive.'"
"That is what bullies do. She keeps you around to put you down and make herself look or feel better."
"Her actions, attitude, and behavior are those of an immature high schooler. She could actually be jealous of you and not want one or all of the following: you to succeed, have more friends, feel better about yourself, look better, etc."
"Please slowly distance yourself, find new hobbies and activities with more mature, well-rounded, healthy people." - Freeling_Fab_U_lous
"How DARE you spoil her fun; didn't you know that part of your gift was letting her make you the butt of her jokes? (sarcastic comment)"
"What an awful person. No one should need to put others down to raise themselves up. She doesn't deserve the title of friend, to be honest. You showed much more grace than I would have managed." - tphatmcgee
"She was using you as her punching bag to make the others attending laugh. Probably thinking you’d just take it. That’s not a good friend. NOR." - Additional-Start9455
"'Someone I trusted kept embarrassing me after I asked them to stop.' NOR."
"First, you shouldn't have had to ask her to stop because a friend wouldn't have started in the first place. One of her 'jokes' was about you being sensitive, so she knew you didn't like it and did it anyway."
"Second, you asked her privately to stop, because you didn't want to embarrass her. Think about that. You didn't want to embarrass her. But she couldn't show you the same consideration, even after being asked to stop."
"That's not how I treat my friends, and I suspect that's not how you treat your friends, either." - calminthedark
"I would have answered her text that she's a s**tty friend and to f**k off. You have class."
"I probably would have made a comment at dinner that I asked her to stop with the insults."
"NOR. You did everything right." - Particular-King218
The subReddit was disappointed on the OP's behalf that a friendship they were so committed to, they were excited to celebrate their friend's birthday and even helped plan the event, came apart at their expense, and on very public terms.
If the friend didn't want to be "embarrassed," maybe she should have thought about how she was embarrassing others first.