Marriage proposals, engagement periods, and weddings are meant to be incredibly happy times full of celebration for the happy couple.
But sometimes during the engagement window, the couple may realize they don't share as many values as they originally thought, cringed the "Am I the A**hole?" (AITAH) subReddit.
Redditor dawnmderrrt had saved up for over a year for his fiancée's wedding ring and a lovely proposal, only for his fiancée to lose her ring during a hiking trip.
When his fiancée demanded a replacement ring and proposal to show his love for her, the Original Poster (OP) began to question how their values aligned.
He asked the sub:
"AITAH for refusing to re-propose after my fiancée lost her engagement ring?"
The OP's fiancée lost her engagement ring during a romantic getaway.
"I (29 Male) proposed to my fiancée (28 Female) six months ago with a beautiful ring that I saved up for over a year to buy."
"She was thrilled, and we've been happily planning our wedding since then."
"Last weekend, we went on a trip to the mountains for a little getaway. During one of our hikes, she realized that her engagement ring was missing. She was devastated and we spent hours retracing our steps, but we couldn't find it."
The OP was surprised by what his fiancée demanded next.
"When we got back home, she asked if I could get a new ring and re-propose to her to recreate the special moment."
"I told her that I understood how she felt, but buying another ring of the same quality would be financially challenging for me right now."
"I suggested that we could either wait until I could afford a similar ring or get a more modest ring for now and upgrade it in the future."
"She was upset and said that it wouldn't feel the same with a different ring and that the magic of the proposal was lost."
The OP was concerned about his future wife's priorities.
"She insisted that she wanted the moment to be recreated just as it was before."
"I told her that the important thing was our commitment to each other, not the ring or the proposal itself."
"She accused me of not caring enough about her feelings and said that if I truly loved her, I would find a way to make it happen."
"Now, there's a lot of tension between us, and she's been distant ever since."
"I feel like I'm being practical, but she feels like I'm not valuing our engagement enough."
"AITAH for refusing to re-propose with a new ring under these circumstances?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
- NTA: Not the A**hole
- YTA: You're the A**hole
- ESH: Everybody Sucks Here
- NAH: No A**holes Here
Some empathized with the OP and said they would have been reeling if they lost their rings.
"I lost my engagement ring in the house, and I spent almost four hours sobbing like a psycho because I thought it was a demonstration on how much I valued it, instead of my fear of salmonella while seasoning dinner."
"Never lost that b***h again." - Express-Rae
"This is hysterical reading as the husband of a wife who also lost her engagement ring."
"She was a sobbing mess that spent hours tearing through the yard and house to try to find it. At one point, delirious, she proposed pulling up the floor boards to see if it had somehow fallen there (we have laminate)."
"Luckily we found it in the yard with a metal detector, which I then proceeded to jokingly propose again on the condition she could keep it longer than four months, lol (laughing out loud)."
"Happily married now for eight years." - Marsdreamer
"NTA… I would be horrified if I lost the ring my fiancé got me. No way would I expect him to replace it with conditions."
"If I were you, I would really consider who you've asked to marry you and where their priorities lay. In the future however, I would insure the ring." - Feisty_Cougar420
"NTA. I lost my wedding band six months into my marriage. Got up early, saw the wife off on a women's weekend retreat she was doing music for, and after she left, I noticed the sprinklers were running, and a couple needed some work."
"After digging up three sprinklers, I realized, 'Oh s**t! Where's my wedding ring?' I went to the local tool rental place and rented a metal detector. In the course of over two hours, I dug up at least two dozen rusty nails in my yard and finally managed to find the gold ring I'd lost."
"I figured I was home free, until the wife got back the following evening and asked, 'So, what's this $40 receipt for the tool rental place for a metal detector?' Yep, BUSTED!"
"I responded, 'That was to find the wedding ring you gave me after I lost it in our yard!'"
"My wife responded, 'Were you successful?'"
"From that point on (23 years ago), we banned each other from wearing our wedding rings while working in the yard, or me from wearing mine working outdoors at work."
"One day after washing my hands at work, I managed to accidentally fling my ring into the sink while shaking my hands to get them mostly dry. That's probably exactly how the yard got my ring, shaking the sprinkler water off my hands..." - 2Where2
Others agreed and questioned if the OP's fiancée was really "the one."
"If his fiancee really loved OP, she could spend a year of her free time retracing her footsteps on the hike to find the ring instead of him spending another year saving up for a new ring."
"He already put in the year of effort. It's her turn."
"But seriously, who wears precious jewelry to do outdoor sports? I say this as someone who likes jewelry." - rhetorical_twix
"Hello, The door is open leave while you have the chance! You just got a view of what being permanently attached to her will be like! She ought to be ashamed for caring so little about securing something so precious!" - wasabiworth1585
"OP said he saved for a year for it, so I put it at a $5000 piece of jewelry. That's a significant loss imo, no matter if she lost it because it slipped off during the hike or if she took it off to wash her hands at the ranger station at the start of the hike & forgot to put it back on."
"The fact of the matter is that she's not taking responsibility for the financial and emotional loss she caused."
"Add in the 'if you truly loved me' with the expectation that a) OP just magically find another $5000 and b) OP jumps through any hoops she indicates..." - stormtomcat
"NTA. 'If you really loved me' is a trap to try to get you to do something not just illogical, but counter-productive. You have actual things that you need to use your resources on, besides sentimental, non-pressing 'moments to re-create.'"
"This actually sounds like some sort of test to see how far she can push you. Tread carefully." - zapthycat1
"OP's fiancée probably didn't like the ring or thought that it wasn't expensive enough. She might not have even lost the ring and only wants to choose a better one of her liking."
"If she really lost the ring by accident, which I doubt given her manipulative behavior, she should take responsibility and buy a new ring for herself. It makes no sense for OP to be in more financial trouble when he wasn't the one who lost the ring, especially when they already have to deal with wedding expenses."
"OP's suggestion of getting a less expensive ring now and upgrading it in the future is already more than his fiancée deserves."
"His fiancée's behavior is a huge red flag because it shows that she isn't mature enough to marry, has no notion of the value of money, doesn't care about OP's finances, and has difficulty taking accountability for her mistakes. NTA, OP." - HilMickaelson
"I am wondering if the girlfriend really liked the ring and proposal, at all. Oh, no, lost the ring! Do over! Seems like a 'great' way of getting what you really want." - Glitterknave
"She doesn't see them as true partners, because, in theory, OP's finances would affect his fiance's finances. She's making this 100% his problem even though she's the one who lost the f**king ring."
"'If you really loved me...' The AUDACITY."
"She's manipulative as f**k and greedy."
"Partner of the Year." - labellavita1985
The subReddit not only was shocked that the OP's fiancée wasn't accepting responsibility for losing her engagement ring but that she had demanded her future husband prove his love and commitment to her by fixing her problems for her.
In all reality, if the OP's fiancée want to prove her love for him, she probably should have looked harder for the missing ring, or at the very least, she could have offered to assist with the costs of the replacement or maybe, just maybe, not take an important piece of jewelry on a hiking trip.
















Woman Asks If It's Wrong To Cancel Date After He Makes Too Many Sexual Comments
Dating can be really hard, because let's be honest, as fun as it's supposed to be, there are some very strange prospects out there.
While some might just be socially awkward, there are definitely some walking red flags, ready to push every boundary, cautioned the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Suspicious_End_441 had been talking to a guy for a little while and was planning to go on a first date with him when he started sending her increasingly inappropriate text messages.
But when his texts went far past her comfort zone, especially for someone she'd never met, the Original Poster (OP) planned to call off the date and truly never meet the guy in real life.
She asked the sub:
The OP had been talking to a guy and was looking forward to going on a first date with him.
"For context, I (30 Female) met this guy online and have been talking to him the past few days."
"He asked me out, and we planned a date for today. He seems really nice so far."
"I like him, but he’s made a couple of comments that maybe seem like a red flag to me."
"First off, I did my nails for the date, and he asked me to send him a picture, so I did."
"Then he made some comment like, 'Those would look great wrapped around something.'"
"I kinda brushed it off because I know that’s how some guys are... but it did give me the ick a little."
"Then I asked him to tell me more about himself, and the second thing he told me was that he has a high sex drive."
The potential date texted:
The OP no longer liked the idea of dating the guy.
"Don’t get me wrong, I’m no prude, but this made me slightly uncomfortable. I’m wondering what reason you would need to tell this to someone you haven’t even met yet."
"I didn’t think he would be expecting sex on a first date, but this made me rethink."
"I’m also recovering from a surgery that I had three weeks ago, and he knows this. So that literally isn’t even an option for me, not that I would wanna do that on a first date anyway."
The OP considered never meeting the guy in person.
"I kind of feel like he’s making too many sexual comments too quickly, especially considering I didn’t engage with his first comment at all."
"Am I overreacting, feeling like I maybe want to cancel the date and block him?"
"I just feel like these comments are an indicator of his expectations... or maybe he is just 'being a guy'?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some had second-hand "ick" from reading that text message.
"NOR. My face when I read that text: [Dan Levy from 'Schitt's Creek']" - Unlikely_Captain_499
"I’d nope out right after the nails comment. After I blast him for being completely out of line." - WHYohWhy__MEohMY
"If he’s that comfortable saying stuff like that before he meets you, imagine what he’ll say after he knows you better." - ScrambledNoggin
"Gross. That joke should be saved for wife or long-term girlfriend where you know you'll get a laugh... or more accurately, an eye-roll and a 'threat' to not sleep with him for the next three months, LOL." - HovercraftIII1258
"Every time I get my nails done, my husband says something similar to that, and I always reply, 'I think they'd look good jammed in your eye sockets,' and we both laugh, LOL. But we've been married for over a decade. When we met and when we were dating, he was incredibly polite and possibly TOO slow in making advances. THIS is gross." - wingin_it0618
"This is exactly what I expect as a response from a man heavily in the dating scene right now. Like, sex is fine, but this guy really couldn't wait to go out on the date that was already set up and chill for ONE d**n night? If the girl is into you, it will happen when it happens. It says to me like he has no self-control." - BrayIsreal
"If he's giving you the ick, listen to that. It's not going to go away. Don't waste your own time or his. Plenty more fish in the sea, girl." - Zieglest
"As a man who is heavily in the dating world right now, that sounds like such a turn off, and any self-respecting girl who wants an actual relationship would not even talk to him anymore after this. It's so cringey and makes all of us guys look like there's no reason we want to go out with them other than getting laid. As a guy, it's really annoying; it makes girls weirded out by all of us. Sigh."
"Like, sex is fine, but this guy really couldn't wait to go out on the date that was already set up and chill for ONE d**n night? If the girl is into you, it will happen when it happens. It says to me like he has no self-control."
"That was the dumbest thing he could say to kill his chances. I wouldn't bother with him." - BrayIsReal
"NOR, I wouldn’t want to go anymore either. Making multiple sexual comments before even meeting someone is purposeful, and I doubt he remembers that you can’t do anything due to your surgery or even considers whether you want to."
"Don’t brush off how your gut makes you feel. If you are uncomfortable, then you are under no obligation to go." - AliBari
Others urged the OP to listen to her gut, not to go on that date, and to immediately block the guy.
"If he is already this forward, making sexual comments to a complete stranger, then it will only increase from here; he’s not going to suddenly stop. OP, if he already makes you feel uncertain or pressured, then don’t bother." - saiphxo
"Your gut is telling you something and wants to keep you safe. Don't ignore it." - SparkEli1
"Stay far, far away from this guy. Block. Don't look back. Men like this use high sex drive as a disclaimer for zero boundaries later." - CompetitionLankys
"Trust your intuition. Don’t go."
"I (39 Female) am very comfortable with casual sex and hook-ups. When single, I have never needed an emotional connection with a man to let off some steam. I don’t need him to make me feel special or like we have potential. I don’t need to know his hopes and dreams. I separate men into 'just sex' and 'potential for more' easily."
"I do need him to show the most basic level of respect and not be a creep. I would stop talking to this guy the instant he started speaking like that, even if my intention was to just f**k him."
"We are already talking, we are already about to go on a date, why is he turning it creepy sexual, what is that doing for either of us. It just speaks to a lack of judgment, I wouldn’t want to trust. If he can’t handle a basic text conversation without being a creep, why would I trust him to be alone with me?" - TheCa11ousB**h
"Ok, so I'm a degenerate, but even I wouldn't say something like 'those would look good wrapped around something' to a person I'd never met."
"I mean... do I have to be dad here and say the obvious? It's some guy on the internet who's looking to f**k. Is that really what you want? He can't even be bothered to type the d in the word 'and.'"
"Also, your nails look cool." - skippybeefree
"I’m more insulted that it’s just a terribly uncreative line. This guy's a bum!"
"Also, it's a huge red flag is the first thing he describes himself as a clean freak and needs things done his way. Sounds like a control freak, which would make me dip out immediately." - JeromeBarkley
"Only you know what you need to do. Feel safe. Feel comfortable. Feel SAFE!"
"If you don't, then cancel."
"Some men (I am a man) sometimes say way too much way too soon, and some men don't know how to hold a decent conversation. Sometimes just telling them how you feel about the sexual comments and seeing his reaction will tell you more than anything else he has ever said to you up until this point."
"But always remember you can choose to back out at any point in a date, even if you turn up to have dinner but can't walk in. The same goes for him as well if he turns up but doesn't walk in. We all have the right to feel safe and comfortable, especially on a first date." - Ok_goal6591
It was possible that the guy was just excited about the date, nervous to talk to someone new, socially awkward, or just joking at an inappropriate level.
Unfortunately, though, it was much more likely that these comments indicated the guy's expectations for the first date and how he would treat the OP if she set boundaries, especially regarding his inability to perform after surgery for safety reasons.
While it would be fun to meet someone new, it was much safer for the OP to wait for someone else.