A child-free wedding is becoming more of the norm nowadays.
Big events like weddings often span a large portion of time.
Kids get tired and need lots of attention and rest.
Which is why kids and weddings are often not conducive.
Redditor JessieLynnReddit wanted to discuss her experience and get some feedback. So naturally, she came to visit the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subReddit.
She asked:
"AITA for bringing my daughter to my own child-free wedding?"
The Original Poster (OP) explained:
"So my husband (M[ale] 29) and I (F[emale] 27) just recently got married."
"We spend almost a year planning the perfect wedding, taking the right precautions, etc."
"One of the first rules that we decided was that it was a no-kid wedding."
"We wanted an environment where we wouldn't have to worry about children running around, getting into things, crying, etc."
"We made it very clear on our invitation that we didn't want anyone to bring children under 14."
"However, we decided to bring our daughter (11 months), and I wanted to hold her during the reception and photo taking, and then have a family friend drive her home and wait for the babysitter to get there before coming back."
"Before we settled on that friend, we asked a few people."
"One of the people we asked was my husband's close friend, Darren's, wife Jessica (fake names)."
"She declined because she didn't want to drive, which worked out fine as we were able to find someone else."
"So on the day of our wedding, after we told everyone several times about the no kids rule, she showed up with her 4-year-old."
"I was obviously taken aback, but I went to ask her about it."
"She told me that 'since I was bringing my kid, it was okay if she took hers.'"
"Honestly, I was furious."
I tried to stay calm and tell her that this was a child-free wedding and she couldn't let her kid run around, but if she took her kid home she was welcome to come back."
"She started yelling at me about how since I had a kid it wasn't fair that she couldn't have hers."
"Her son at this point was already climbing on things, as she just let him run free."
"I told her that this was her last chance or she'd need to leave."
"She rolled her eyes, sat in a chair, and watched her son run wild."
"Eventually, her husband Darren convinced her to get her kid and leave, but it ruined the whole first part of my wedding."
"It's been a few weeks now, and I've been thinking, maybe I am wrong."
"I said no kids at my wedding but brought my own."
"A lot of people in my life are also saying it was hypocritical at the least."
The OP was left to wonder:
"So AITA?"
Redditors shared their thoughts on this matter and weighed some options to the question AITA:
- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA – You're The A**hole
- NAH – No A**holes Here
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
Many Redditors declared OP was NOT the A**hole.
"NTA. Your wedding, your rules."
"And, an unsupervised, unrelated 4-year-old is very different from the bride's 11-month-old daughter." ~ HaveYouTriedNot123
"That's like calling the bride a hypocrite for saying no one is allowed to wear white to her wedding, but then she shows up in white."
"Absolutely NTA." ~ Major_Zucchini5315
"I agree with this 100%."
"And I think it's getting worse with each successive generation."
"The wonderful thing about disciplining your children is that they are more fun to have around and for you to enjoy."
"The fact that the friend's child was already climbing on furniture is a sure sign that they do not discipline or parent their child."
"She was just being an AH." ~ Critical_Armadillo32
"The trouble is kids who were never taught to behave in public become parents."
"How can they teach what they never learned?"
"You are spot-on about well-disciplined children, they are an absolute delight, and it kinda sucks that they're left out of things because they seem to be a minority."
"Leaving old folks like me to grumble because I loved weddings as a kid but would hesitate to invite any now."
"The general bar for kid behavior is in the basement, so many parents let their kids crawl under it."
"Like this example." ~ CraftLass
"NTA. Her 'if you can do it so can I' attitude is flippant and disrespectful."
"Especially she didn't do anything to manage his behavior." ~ 3batsinahousecoat
"And the daughter only took pictures and got sent home to her babysitter, which means there were no kids at the wedding."
"You're NTA OP but Jessica is." ~ Jaded-Lemon8415
"Nope. Your wedding, your rules."
"Even if they had been the same age, it is very different to have the children of the bride and groom - who are the most immediate family and part of the marriage - than a guest's child who has no part of the relationship." ~ Living-Ad8963
"NTA... your wedding your rules."
"My sister had her beach wedding childfree except for my kids and her husband's aunt's kids."
"All the kids had a role in the wedding, and she actually spent a lot of time with the kids."
"No one made a fuss because everyone understood." ~ HowDoIDoThisDaily
"You had a minder for your child, and it's understandable that you wanted your baby in the wedding pictures."
"You even had plans to send your baby home after the photos."
"If you feel you owe the other person an explanation, I would make it clear that 'wedding party' and 'guest' are different, and if they would have asked, you would likely explain that your baby was only there to be in the pictures, and you had them elsewhere during the ceremony."
"The only thing you might have done differently was explain your plan to this person who felt that 'if you could, they could too.'"
"Communication is something society is getting weak on, with people being in the same room and can't have a discussion without texting and emojis."
"It's like back in my day, pre-cell phones, we had a game where you had to talk to someone and not move your hands."
"Some people literally can't." ~ anonymousforever
"The problem with this is that she had no clue her friend was going to bring a 4-year-old until she showed up with her child."
"That's not a lack of communication on the bride's part."
"It's a lack of communication on the 'friends' part."
"The friend was just being an AH and self-righteous and entitled."
"I don't see any lack of communication by the bride." ~ Critical_Armadillo32
"This is the part that made it super egregious to me."
"An 11-month-old baby is still at the stage of development where you can pop them in a bassinet or car seat and they are fine for hours."
"They are usually not running around getting into everything the way a toddler or older child would."
"They're not likely going to be climbing the furniture, causing fights with other kids, getting into nonsense."
"It makes perfect sense that you would want your infant to be in the wedding pictures." ~ SunnyAlwaysDaze
"NTA. It's very common for people with kids to have their own kids at their wedding."
"Wanting to have photos with your own child makes a heck of a lot more sense than with an unrelated 4-year-old." ~ Putrid_Performer2509
"And an 11-month-old isn't going to be climbing on anything. NTA."
"She knew about the rule and intentionally broke it to be spiteful."
"Not someone I would want at my wedding as she obviously doesn't care about you enough to respect you on your wedding day." ~ Lazy-Instruction-600
"Your child who was part of things, then sent home because you wanted a child-free party. NTA." ~ Bright_Ad_3690
"I was just like. What."
"You had your daughter for pictures and the actual ceremony, it is fine to have your daughter for this very important milestone."
"She will not remember this, but you."
"It will always be a moment you shared with your family."
"And she will see she was part of it because of the pictures."
"The couple's own kids usually are not included in the no-kid rule."
"And if you want to make exceptions for a ringbearer or flower girl, that is up to you."
"Your wedding, your rules, and as long as these rules are not to single someone out, you are NTA." ~ Any-Music-2206
"NTA. Reading the early part of your post, I figured that the baby would be there for at most an hour for picture-taking purposes."
"It's your wedding, so child-free me would be willing to cut you some slack on bringing the baby."
"An 11-month-old baby is a lot less active than a 4-year-old child who appears to have no discipline at all."
"That you put a condition of not having children under 14 on the invitation that your friends accepted should have protected you from Jessica bringing her child."
"That's the invitation that she accepted, and she shouldn't have unilaterally decided to bring her child just because you were bringing your child to the wedding briefly for photos." ~ No_Philosopher_1870
"It was YOUR wedding and YOUR child."
"Of course you're NTA."
"You had every right to want your child there for photos."
"Your 'friend' tried to make YOUR wedding all about her."
"It's not hypocrisy, and anyone saying that isn't a real friend." ~ Human-Jacket8971
"NTA. Your wedding, your rules."
"You don't need to justify yourself to anyone as to why you decide to bring your own baby to the wedding (it's a no-brainer for me)."
"Making an exception for yourself is not only expected here, it is totally your choice even if it wasn't."
"Enjoy, and mazal tov." ~ edebby
"This is your kid at your wedding, a day about celebrating your love and unity as a family, it's have been strange (to me) if she hadn't been there for a part of it. NTA." ~ ImaginationNo5381
"Absolutely NTA."
"The nerve of some people, honestly!!"
"It's YOUR wedding, your rules, and an 11-month-old isn't going to ruin anything whereas a 4-year-old given free rein can and will."
"AND your child went home after pictures, she expected to have hers there all day. How entitled!"
"She knew he shouldn't be there but went ahead and disrupted your day anyway."
"Selfish, selfish, selfish!"
"I wouldn't be speaking to her again." ~ Choo_Choo444
"Our wedding was child-free except for our kids (9 and 11 at the time) and immediate family kids who were directly involved in the wedding (my nieces and nephew)."
"We explained this on the invitation."
"We had no issues with people complaining."
"Absolutely NTA."
"OP's wedding, OP's rules, and it's her own damn kid, there's no way they would be leaving them out."
"If they do have a problem, then they don't have to come." ~ jason_sos
"NTA. Bride and groom always have the right of exception to any rule they make for their wedding, ESPECIALLY for their own child that is being included in the ceremony." ~ 1randomaustralian
OP had an update for everyone...
"Wow, I was not expecting this to gain this much traction."
"Darren, Jessica's husband, found this post."
"He knew it was obviously about them, so he apologized on both of their behalf."
"Jessica, however, was furious."
"It's only been a few hours since she messaged me."
"I haven't responded yet, seeking advice."
"Here's her text pasted here..."
"Jessie, you are disgusting."
"Posting our private business online for everyone to see? Really?"
"That honestly just proves how immature you are."
"'Darren,' might be sorry, but I'm not."
"I have absolutely nothing to apologize for."
"I wanted my son to be there for you on your special day, and I thought you'd appreciate that."
"You're making your child a spoiled brat, excluding every other child but her."
"You using fake names just proves you're just scared of us and didn't want us to see this."
"You're making my son seem like a monster for just being a child."
"I thought I was your best friend."
"If I was welcome, he should've been too."
"Honestly, at this point, I'd rather you just tell me you don't care about or respect me and my family to my face."
"And the comments? Jeez..."
"I mean you were really just looking for pity, weren't you?"
"You knew the chronically online teens of Reddit would obviously back you up, and that's all you wanted."
"I'm betting you'll post this too, so hi Reddit!"
"She sent several other messages about my personal health and sensitive topics that weren't relevant to her behavior at all, I'd assume just to make me feel bad."
"I really don't know what to say to her. "
"I still love her and care about her, but I don't know whether to try to mend this or cut her off."
Well OP, Reddit is loud and clear!
Your wedding! You're rules!
Your "friend" has really crossed a line with that response.
You deserve time to celebrate your marriage and family.
She knew your child was sticking around for the entire wedding, just photos.
So she took advantage.
Try not to think about any of it anymore.
















New Mom Irate After Father-In-Law Ruins Her Birthday With 'Vulgar' Comment About Her Breasts
There's nothing quite like the feeling of going through all the work to prepare a fun celebration, just for someone to undo it with an unkind or gross comment.
That feeling just gets worse when it's your birthday, and that comment was made by someone who's supposed to care about you, sympathized the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Rude-Pepper-2389 had recently given birth and decided to have a special birthday celebration to reconnect with her loved ones after becoming a mom.
When her father-in-law stopped by unexpectedly and then made comments about her body, the Original Poster (OP) was left so uncomfortable that it ruined the whole celebration for her.
She asked the sub:
The OP wanted to have a special birthday celebration after her baby was born.
"I currently have a five-month-old and haven’t really been taking care of myself or dressing up since having the baby."
"It’s my (25 Female) birthday, and we were having friends over at our house for a private dinner to celebrate."
"My husband (24 Male) and I have been together since we were 18."
"I decided to put on this new silk shirt I got, which, admittedly, was low-cut, but I felt cute in it and felt comfortable around the friends we were having over."
Everything was fine until the OP's father-in-law (FIL) stopped by unexpectedly.
"My husband's dad decided to stop by on his way home from work."
"I will say, he was likely drunk. He works two hours away and proudly told my husband he's down to only four beers on his drive home each day... so, that's healthy."
"When he came in, I was on the couch with my baby propped up beside me, bottle feeding him. Keep in mind, I am not breastfeeding, so no, my breasts are not any larger right now."
"My husband's dad leaned down to look at the baby and then suddenly shouted, 'D**n, son, she could knock you out with those things in bed! Like cracking two coconuts together.'"
"This was fully and undoubtedly in reference to my breasts."
The OP was shocked by the comment and very uncomfortable.
"It made me deeply uncomfortable and embarrassed."
"I was so stunned, I couldn’t even process what he said to me, and our friends just stared at me, blinking."
"He’s a redneck, so he's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years, but this just seems to take the cake, as it was the first time it was directed at me."
"When he stepped out, I told my husband he needed to speak to him, and that the comment wasn’t okay."
"I went to change clothes and decided to never ever wear that shirt again."
"When I brought it up to my husband, he said he didn't hear the comment at first, but then he laughed when I told him what he said. He's always laughed when he feels awkward and has always had a hard time standing up to his parents in any capacity."
"When he and my father-in-law spoke, my FIL just said, 'I shouldn’t have said that to her, I know how she can be,' which just feels even more like I’m just being dramatic."
"Since then, I think my husband just wants me to drop it and move on, truthfully."
The OP wasn't sure what to do after what happened.
"This genuinely ruined my entire night. Am I just too sensitive, or was this an inappropriate thing to say?"
"There's also been no apology since then. This happened on Thursday, and then my father-in-law came by again on Friday with flowers to wish me a happy Mother's Day before Mother's Day Sunday."
"I think that was his way of trying to just breeze past the awkwardness. He's never gotten me a gift the whole seven years I've known him, so the flowers were odd. But I still feel really uncomfortable."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that her father-in-law's comments were rude and just plain creepy.
"NOR at all. That was really rude of him. Anyone would be offended." - Bookbringer
"NOR. That’s firmly in the category of what should be an 'inside thought,' and we should learn what those are at a much younger age than this guy is."
"F**king h**l, this is an absolutely mental thing to say out loud, let alone to your daughter-in-law." - Electronic-Fennel828
"FIL is an AH. I love that you think his being a redneck excuses it, but d**n. Even rednecks should know better than to speak that way to their son's wife."
"What does your husband have to say? Does he understand how breath-takingly rude his father was, or is he Team 'That's Just How He Is'?"
"I'd go very low contact with the old perv. NOR, he put you in an uncomfortable position with his crude remark. Is he married? I'd tell the MIL. I'd tell the whole family. Yes, it's embarrassing, but he is the one who should be embarrassed. Don't accept his non-apology." - Top-Bit85
"Maybe I’m desensitized after having large breasts since I was 13 (I’m 28 now), but I let out a little snort based on how immature of a joke it was. I’d simply tell FIL, 'Yes, I know, my boobs are big,' and move on."
"That said, I would never make such a comment about another person's body. Just because I'm technically fine with it doesn't mean I assume anyone else is!"
"Not everyone is the same, and if OP felt uncomfortable, she’s NOR. Her body, her boundaries." - Both_Original2094
"I’m sorry. That’s upsetting. My father is like this with his father. Even if it’s very offensive comments, he’s uncomfortable and has problems confronting him. It sounds like your husband isn’t going to have a talk with him, which is hurtful."
"I would explain to your husband how uncomfortable the situation was for you and that it’s a serious matter, especially if it happens again. And if he still tries to brush it off, then I would tell him you no longer want your FIL coming to your home."
"It’s your life, too, and he’s not the one being hurt here, you are." - w_coastultraviolence
Others were specifically angry about the tactics the father-in-law used to try to get out of trouble.
"Seriously? Saying 'I know how she can be' is a classic way to blame the victim for having boundaries. It’s your birthday, not a Hooters convention. What a creep. If he can’t look at the baby without checking out your breast, he shouldn't be invited to the house." - Specific_Parsnip3264
"'I know how she can be' is so f**ked up. He's the one being a disgusting person. You need to shine up your husband's spine to properly call him out at the time next time, because there will be a next time." - dancepantz
"The bit that pisses me off the most is, 'I know how she can be,' which is his way of making it her problem that she doesn't like her FiL sexualising her in front of her friends." - Outside-Partait-8935
"The 'joke' comment is gross, but that follow-up comment is infuriating. NOR, OP. But this guy will be in your life for a while, so firmly & calmly shutting this stuff down is completely appropriate."
"I'd wear the d**n shirt again to the next family function and look him right in the eyes next time!" - RationalFish
"When we let things like this slide for others, it's not long before it ends up on our doorstep, and of course, nobody says anything because keeping the peace is the norm. It doesn't have to be getting into their face and yelling abuse back. Just a comment such as, 'Well, that's super tacky to say,' or asking them why they'd say that." - Kattnapped
"The OP said, 'He's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years... but this is the first time it was directed to me.'"
"Normalise calling stuff out when they are talking about others, and they won't feel so comfortable saying it to you."
"It's a gross thing for him to say, but I guess him buying you flowers is his way of saying sorry."
"Sounds like you are in the situation of a lot of new mothers, where you suddenly realise this stuff matters because you want better influences for your child, and better support for yourself. NOR." - Jumpy-Jello-
Now, about that shirt...
"Please re-think your decision to never wear the cute shirt again, girl!! It's something that you liked very much because it made you feel good about yourself. Don't let some backwoods id**t ruin that for you."
"Wear that shirt till it's worn out and can't be worn anymore!! You should be able to feel good about yourself in whatever you like to wear."
"Your husband should have immediately checked his father, not waited until he was told to do so after his father left the room. In front of everyone there, your husband should have told his father not to ever speak about you or to you in that kind of manner, and if his father doesn't like it, he knows where the door is."
"Hubby should have called him out for his response as well. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were not the problem; his dad was. This comes down to your husband needing to protect his wife, and he didn't do that." - Lynzo141982
"If he is a redneck, like you said, he won't outright apologize, but flowers are his way of saying sorry."
"I hope he won't say anything again, or else you can expect a nicely tended garden for at least a year."
"About your top, I hope you can wear it again. It takes a lot to feel cute, being a new mum."
"If not, get some fabric dye, dye the top a different color, and embroider a flower on it. This makes the top new, different, and every time you wear it, you can use the mantra ... I'm cute, I don't care what anyone says."
"You've got this!!" - No_Kangaroo_6637
Even if the father-in-law was joking and meant no harm, this is one of those situations where he needs to admit that his joke did not land well, he did cause harm, and he needs to apologize. Just because some people enjoy joking in that manner does not mean that everyone will be comfortable with it, and it's important to respect everyone's boundaries and zones of comfort.