We've all heard the stories of incredibly critical parents who really take it out on their future daughters-in-law and sons-in-law.
But when our partners are okay with how they're being treated, we have to make peace with it, too, or create distance from our first family, pointed out the "Am I the A**hole?" (AITA) subReddit.
Redditor RedBee7763 was sick of how their family was treating their future husband, who they believed to be a low-income worker entering a wealthy family.
When they had heard enough, the Original Poster (OP) revealed how much money their future husband was actually making.
They asked the sub:
"AITA for telling my family how much my fiancé earns after years of them making fun of his job?"
The OP fell in love with their fiancé despite their financial differences.
"My family is very well-educated and full of professionals, including several doctors, surgeons, dentists, etc. I have a good career and make a good living."
"When I met my fiancé, he was at my house to supervise a roofing crew the insurance company hired to replace my damaged roof. I instantly fell for him when he pulled up in his truck and couldn't keep my eyes off of him for the rest of the day as he gave orders to his men."
"When we started dating, he was vague about his job, and I just chalked it up to him being insecure about me having a better career. I didn't care about our income imbalance."
But come to find out, their financial situations weren't so different at all.
"When we got serious, we talked about our future plans, and that was when he told me the full extent of his little construction company."
"I was shocked that his construction earnings are as much as my dad's surgeon salary."
"Gradually, he took me around to the handful of construction lots and shopping centers he owns. His rental income combined with his construction earnings is double that of my dad's."
"He said that few people know about his finances and he expects me to keep what I know to myself."
The OP's parents had always assumed the worst about their fiancé.
"My parents disapproved of him since the first time I brought him home. My dad coined the term 'Tool Boy,' and the rest of my family joined in whenever they talk behind my fiancé's back."
"They don't call him that to his face but instead make snide remarks."
"Once my mom said during dinner that they were thinking about hiring someone to mow their lawn and then turned to my fiancé and asked him what he charges."
"I always try to defend him and it's a constant battle."
"My fiancé, on the other hand, doesn't care what people, including my parents, think. When my family makes snide remarks, he laughs with them until it makes them uncomfortable. He's the most confident person I've ever met."
While wedding planning, the OP couldn't take the criticism anymore.
"Their comments have gotten worse since we're planning our wedding, and the other day my nerves just broke."
"Yesterday, my parents were trying to get me into getting a prenuptial. Then my dad said, 'You have to protect your assets just in case Tool Boy decides to go slumming.'"
"I lost it and yelled at my parents. During our shouting, I blurted out his earnings and that he makes more than both of them combined, and then I stormed out."
But then the OP's fiancé became upset with them for revealing his income.
"I told my fiancé what happened, but instead of supporting me, he got mad that I told his parents that."
"I argued that I was defending him, and then we got into an argument."
"My parents and family are mad at me for keeping secrets. My fiancé is mad at me for not keeping secrets."
"I'm stuck in the middle and don't know what to do."
"AITA?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
- NTA: Not the A**hole
- YTA: You're the A**hole
- ESH: Everybody Sucks Here
- NAH: No A**holes Here
Some understood why the OP finally revealed this information.
"NTA! I'm guessing you HAVE tried telling your family, that it doesn't matter what he makes and that he makes you happy, but since THEY keep bringing up his money, it seems the only way to shut them up finally is to tell them what he makes."
"I would've done the SAME thing, followed by a stern 'Now shut the f**k up and mind your f**king business!'"
"All you can really do is apologize to him and hope he understands that a person can only take so much!! You snapped. It happens. Hopefully, now they won't bring it up anymore."
"Also, to the people calling this a BETRAYAL OF TRUST? That's all a bit extreme. She didn't cheat. Get pregnant by someone else. Steal from him. She told some people what he makes. Not right since he asked you not to, but d**n."
"I didn't read all the comments, but I wouldn't be surprised if people were saying he should leave you. People are so d**n EXTRA. You can't go back in time, apologize profusely, and next time try not to blurt out sensitive information."
"You could've said something like, 'You wish you could make what he makes,' but hindsight is always 20/20. You f**ked up. Not THAT badly though, in my opinion." - mamabear1008
"NTA or maybe even a gentle ESH but?? Oh my gosh. I am so sorry you're dealing with this."
"This is what I call a lose-lose situation. Telling your snooty parents (sorry, but it sure seems that way) your fiancé's income was probably the only chance you have of getting them off your backs, but I also see how your fiancé is upset with you as he is clearly insecure about his wealth that he has worked so hard for and he asked you not to say anything."
"If you haven't already, genuinely apologize to him for telling his 'secret,' even though you were trying to defend him." - ArtemisGirl242020
"NTA. You weren't going this maliciously. You weren't trying to brag about his net worth. You revealed this in the heat of an argument because you were fed up about your fiancé's treatment by your family."
"I get why he's upset, but I don't think he should hold this against you. I'd apologize for revealing his earnings, but I don't think you were being an outright a**hole."
"I'm assuming you didn't tell your family exact numbers, but it's crazy to me a board-certified surgeon in all his education and knowledge wouldn't expect someone owning a construction business to be making an above-average income." - actingotaku
"She's probably been defending him in other ways for years, and this was the last straw. As for cutting them off, it sounds like they've been manipulating her for a long time. She may be very susceptible to guilt trips. I'm not saying that's an excuse. It's just a lot harder to leave abusive situations than people understand."
"As for cutting them off until they grow up, I have a feeling that this is how they believe grown-ups behave. It's probably how they saw their parents behave. So they likely won't understand what she means, and they'll think she's punishing them and she's the bad guy. Yeah, she made a mistake and needs to either cut them off or go extremely low contact, but they are the a**holes."
"NTA, OP. But seriously, get away from your family. They are a bad influence in your life." - Yutolia
"She said, 'I always try to defend him, but it's a constant battle.' It would seem she's more or less tried what you wrote already and that it has fallen on deaf ears, but that the latest comment was the straw that broke the camel's back."
"Family dynamics are tricky and no so cut and dry, so it's easy for an internet stranger to dictate how OP should act, without regard for whatever else dynamics there are at play here. Not everyone finds it easy or simple to just cut off family like a limb, as it seems to be for some of the people suggesting it here."
"Unintentionally AH, but leaning toward NTA. But sure, OP should still apologize to her fiancé for her impulsive outburst in the heat of the moment." - Uber_Meese
Others accused the OP of handling this poorly and prioritizing badly.
"Soft YTA."
"It's a constant frustration with your parents. You could have been vague and said something like a prenup would protect him more than you. But in the end, you should have made your family stop acting like bullying snobs."
"Your fiancé specifically told you not to tell anyone about his income. He was probably secretly enjoying your parents being snobs, not knowing the truth." - Special_Lychee_6847
"YTA. You love your fiancé, and of course, it hurts when your parents make fun of him, but be honest. You didn't do this to defend him. You did it to defend yourself and your choice to marry him."
"You knew that he doesn't want people to know about his finances so clearly betraying that trust wasn't a favor to him."
"Even if he made a lot less, he would still be a worthy human that you love. All you have done is reinforce the notion that it's okay for your parents to look down on 'poor' folks, by letting them know that your fiancé isn't one of the 'poor folks.'"
"They honestly sound awful, and I can't believe your fiancé has put up with this treatment for this long, and I can't believe you've allowed it to continue." - Allaboutbird
"YTA."
"He's a grown man who can defend himself. If he wanted to defend himself to your family, he would have done so already or made it well known how much he owns or makes when he met your family."
"He did not. He told you to keep what he owns and makes to himself, and you didn't. He has every right to be upset about that."
"You weren't defending him to your parents. You were defending yourself to your parents. If your parents act like this often, why do you see them?" - makethatnoise
"YTA."
"Your fiancé told you how much he makes in confidence. You broke his trust because you were angry with your relatives. That makes you the clear a**hole. And then you doubled down and tried to claim that breaking his trust was OK because you were defending him."
"Here's the thing. Your family are snobbish a**holes and will likely always be snobbish a**holes. Their opinion doesn't matter. You are marrying your fiancé. There is no 'middle.' You're an adult and aren't obligated to meek Mommy and Daddy happy or to pay any attention to their nonsense." - _mmiggs_
"Sounds like your husband likes to build relationships on foundations and merits outside of his finances. Meanwhile, your family looks down on anyone they deem lesser earners than themselves."
"I know whose corner I'd be in."
"Apologize to your husband and tell your family to stuff it."
"Sorry, but YTA. There are plenty of other things you could have said to illustrate how f**king horrible your family was being. You didn't have to throw out numbers. Now, if your family starts acting better, he'll always know it's on the basis of his earnings, not his character."
"Also, your husband will always know that your knee-jerk reaction was to be like, 'BUT HE DOES MAKE MONEY,' rather than, 'Who cares what he makes? He MAKES me happy! He takes care of me! He treats me! We're good partners with the same life goals! We love each other! Support that or shut up!'"
"I can try to give OP some leeway, but I still think there were better ways to go about it, like saying, 'We're perfectly comfortable and happy with our mutual finances, which are none of your business.'" - monsteramoons
"YTA. He asked you for one thing, and you didn't follow through."
"Your family doesn't get to be mad about you 'keeping secrets' as your husband-to-be's income is none of their business at all. He probably wanted it secret because he knows when people find out, they will expect him to foot all of the bills."
"I would bet money this is how your family starts treating him. You will see that their treatment of him is not dependent on financials because they are snobs. You need to make sure they start treating your husband with kindness and respect both in front of him and you. Why haven't you, yet?"
"Furthermore, you never should have let things get this far. As soon as they called him a ditch digger the first time, you should have told them they will speak of him with respect and kindness, or they won't get to speak to you at all. You waited until things were already at a boiling point to defend your fiancé."
"Apologize to your fiancé. Tell your family if they utter one more negative thing about your fiancé or mention his finances EVER, they will not get to talk to you or ever see any future grandchildren. Forget being invited to the wedding as they can't keep a civil tongue in their heads. Follow this up with going NC (no contact) with them for a few weeks."
"This is salvageable, but you need to realize that when you marry this man, you've created a family and that family and its secrets are your first priority, not your parents and relatives. You've not shown your fiancé to be your priority over your family once in the above writings. You need to make this up to your fiancé because he's the only one not being an AH here." - jaybull222
The subReddit could empathize with the OP about what a lose-lose situation this was regarding their parents' treatment of their fiancé. It surely wasn't right to reveal their future husband's private information, especially when he specifically asked that it be kept a secret, but with parents like this, it seemed to put them in their place or going no contact were the only realistic options.















Woman Asks If It's Wrong To Hold Grudge After Mom Told Her When She 8 Years Old That She Wished She'd Aborted Her
While some people view having and raising children as the greatest blessing, some parents hold their children's existence against them for their entire lives.
And when they feel that way about their children, they're unfortunately typically pretty honest about it, cringed the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor heavelymango knew from the time she was young that her mother did not really like her and significantly favored her sister.
But when her mother told her at the age of eight that she wished she had aborted her, the Original Poster (OP) held on to that grudge for years after the fact.
She asked the sub:
The OP had a grudge against her mother.
"I (22 Female) have been holding onto a grudge due to something my mom told me when I was roughly eight or nine years old."
"Growing up, I was a rebellious kid and always felt as if my mom favored my older sister. My sister would always get whatever she wanted."
"I know she was born with Down syndrome and always needed more attention and care, but if my sister wanted my tablet, for example, she would have it for the whole day while mine was limited to 30 minutes so she could have it."
"As a kid, I lashed out more because of this. She could take all of my things, but I could never use hers."
During a heated moment, the OP's mother said something unforgivable.
"Eventually, this led to an argument with my mom. I don't recall the whole thing, but it was related to my sister and how I felt my mom didn't care about me or give me the same amount of attention."
"The fight got heated, and I probably told my mom that I hated my sister and her."
"I remember she said back, 'I never wanted you from the start. I knew I should've aborted you when I had the chance.'"
" I didn't know what aborted meant at the time, and I remember I looked it up, and it made me cry. I never forgot it, and it lingers in my mind whenever I am home."
The OP's mother pressured her to "let it go" and move on.
"Even growing up, I still brought it up, and she would get mad, saying I need to let it go and how I'm stubborn for not just forgetting what she said."
"There was even a time in high school when she took me to a therapist, and she complained about how I never dropped what she said."
"She says I need to move on from it because it has affected my relationship with her, and she wants to fix it."
"I know I'm older now and it was so long ago, but it still hurts, and I feel like it's made me not want to have her in my life in the future, and I have told this to her."
"How I don't want her in my life once I move out, get married, or have my own kids."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that this sounded like a core memory more than a grudge.
"The axe forgets. The tree remembers."
"It sounds less like you're holding a grudge and more that this is a formative, core memory for you."
"It won't stop being a core memory (unless maybe with the help of a lot of therapy). Has your mom ever apologized for saying that? Because you don't have to forget to forgive, but if she's not remorseful for saying that terrible thing to her young child (not just remorseful that you remember it), then she probably needs therapy (or is a narcissist/sociopath/similar)."
"You are certainly not obligated to 'get over it.'" - Hot-Can3615
"This is not a 'grudge'; it is pain that is still felt to such a degree. If she said it, then she was thinking it. She'll probably never apologize, but that doesn't mean your pain is or was invalid." - Fast_Register_9480
"NOR. This kind of thing needs a real apology. Like she needs to acknowledge the damage and genuinely care about it. Brushing it off won’t make it go away." - TentacleWolverine
"NOR. Did she really want to fix things? She basically just told you to get over it from the start instead of giving you a sincere apology."
"That isn't working on anything. She wants you to get over it so she can pretend that she never said it, so she doesn't have to feel bad about what she did. It doesn't sound like she cares much about how you feel."
"She just doesn't want to deal with it. For that reason, I would still have issues with what she said." - Chemical-Ad6809
"If your relationship with your mother is being affected by the actions of your mother, your mother is responsible for fixing it."
"You should know you probably aren't ever going to get closure, but you don't have to swallow it down. It helps to be the person you needed when you were younger out loud to yourself, but especially to others."
"For example: My name is Liz, and my mom told me to go ahead and do it already and save us all the heartache when I finally had the courage to tell her about how much I've been struggling with self-harm and suicidal ideation. I'm never going to forgive her for that, and we have never been close as a result of her actions."
"You aren't holding onto a grudge; you have a core memory of your mother distilling her feelings into a world-shattering sentence."
"You did not have a secure attachment before and can't have one now because of the deep trauma. You do not apologize for being stabbed."
"Find another therapist. I mean it. Someone who cares about your well-being wouldn't force you to apologize for being verbally abused as a child. I'm 29 now, and I lived through it. I still struggle with suicidal ideation daily, but once I stopped relying on my mom and unstable sources for support, my life got better immediately."
"You want things for comfort and familiarity. Don't let your mom or your therapist gaslight you into crossing a boundary."
"It might help to ask for a written five-part apology from your mom. 1. Acknowledge what you did 2. Say why it was wrong 3. Promise not to do it again 4. Ask how to make amends. 5. Share your feelings at this time if there's anything you'd like to say."
"My mom can be a good person and a bad mom and role model. Being in your own company is so much better than poor company." - PotLuckyPodcast
Others hoped the OP would go no contact with her mother sooner rather than later.
"NOR. It’s emotional abuse. And you do not owe her closeness after that, especially as she refuses to be accountable for that and try to make it up to you."
"She knows you have her number, and she can’t forgive you for knowing what a colloidal b***h she is."
"It’s unlikely that will change; it will at least be turned back on you with her the victim."
"Stop expecting her to apologize. If she doesn’t pay your bills, ghost her." - SnooCheesecakes2723
"My mom said something similar. My brother and I were adopted, and when I was a teen, in front of a church lady, she said, 'We didn't even really want you, but the people didn't want to split y'all up, so we just took you, too.'"
"Me and the church lady were shook. When I say my falbbers were ghasted. Like huh? She didn't remember saying that when I brought it up years after the fact."
"I also got grounded two times for two separate nine weeks (for C's on my report card) and a three and a half to four months (for smoking at 16 and getting caught because she liked to just pop up out of nowhere), and we just had a talk about that, and she didn't even remember."
"She said, 'No, I didn't. I never grounded you for that long,' and when I gave my rebuttal, she said, 'Well, if I did, it definitely wasn't for no nine weeks or months,' and this started because she was praising me for reading so much and liking books. I said, 'Well, when you were grounded like me, that's all I could do (no TV, no friends outside of school, no music, nothing but my room and books)."
"There's a reason I only call or answer her calls once or twice every few weeks. And I only call to get food, really..." - ManicalMoe
"‘Fine, I'm sorry’ is not an apology."
"Whilst I’m sure it was said in anger, most things said in anger have a grain of truth. There are also some things that no half-decent parent ever says to their children, no matter how angry they are, and this is one of them! It also sounds like she has made repeated similar comments of not wanting you as her child."
"I understand her eldest had a disability, but this is no excuse for neglecting and emotionally abusing her younger child. Lots of families deal with a child with additional needs whilst still managing to prioritise their other kids. Children with Down syndrome are capable of understanding ‘that’s your sister's, not yours; give it back’ !! It sounds like your mum has mental health issues?"
"Do you have a present father or other family you can turn to?"
"Protect your peace. Your mum has hurt you time and time again, honestly, for no real gain other than momentarily satisfying her anger. You owe this woman nothing." - Background_Term9810
"I went through something similar. When I was a little girl, my mother used to make comments that implied she didn't want me, though it was never that explicit. 'I only had you because your brother wanted a sister,' and 'My figure never recovered after you; after your brother, it did.'"
"Each comment stayed with me, but I never addressed it with her. I tried to move on and leave it in the past. She did a lot of horrible things throughout my life, but her behavior was always ignored because that's the precedent my dad set, where she can do essentially whatever she wants."
"A few months ago, she came to see me because I was desperate for help and sick. Instead of helping, she made my life so much worse. I won't go into details. At one point, I could no longer keep it inside, and I told her that she is a narcissist, to which she responded with, 'It would have been better if I had never had you.'"
"In some ways, it felt really good to hear her come out and say it. It felt good to hear the truth I've always known."
"I don't know what you should do, but I've chosen to not forgive."
"Every time I forgave, I just let her know that she can get away with whatever horrible things she had done. Her apologies were never real apologies. She always found ways to blame me or others for whatever she had done."
"And I'm truly just done with it. As sad as it is to not have a mom, it's sadder to pretend that you have one when in reality you don't... quite the opposite, if anything." - Neos_Mom
"So, OP, what will hurt more: keeping her and the grudge in your life or making a break and going low or no contact with her?"
"Frankly, we've no idea of what she might have been dealing with at the time, but regardless, what she said was said only to cause pain and suffering. 'Sorry' doesn't magic that intent away."
"Me, I think spending time alone or with friends or in therapy away from her might be what you need here. You might come to some sort of acceptance, but if this is something that's just going to keep coming between you, then stop trying to have that relationship." - Tal_Tos_72
After the OP received feedback, she shared a few clarifications from her original post.
"I wanted to clear some things up, take accountability where it's due, and provide some much-needed context from many people commenting the same questions."
"I want to be completely honest. We had many arguments, and I was a rebellious kid. I acted out and argued with my mom."
"I don't want to give off the impression that I was an entirely innocent kid who never did anything wrong and my mom just snapped out of nowhere. We both said hateful and hurtful things to each other during our fights."
"Growing up, the only way she would accept an apology was if I got on my knees and begged her for forgiveness. If I ever asked her to apologize to me, she would say, 'I have nothing to apologize for; you should be the one begging for my forgiveness.'"
The OP had a lot of physical memories, too.
"Things also would turn into physical arguments, not just verbal ones."
"There were times when she would get so angry she would get physical. Like yanking me by my hair, twisting my arms, or throwing things at me (like remotes, a bug spray can, or a radio)."
"When she yanked my hair, I would fight back just to get her to let me go, and she would scream that I was trying to kill her and she would get me arrested. When she twisted my arm, and I begged her to stop because it felt like it was going to break, she would say she hoped it did."
"When she threw objects at me, she would say she wished they would hit my face."
"I remember in middle school, during an argument, she said she wished she could break my face and that she hated it because I look like my dad. I won’t lie, whenever she said things like that, I would say nasty comments about how she chose to have him put us in her."
While the OP wasn't financially ready to move out yet, she hoped to as soon as possible.
"Why haven't I moved out yet? The main reason I haven't been able to move out is financial."
"I wasn't making enough to support myself without worrying about whether I’d end up having to crawl back home."
"Thankfully, I have recently found a better-paying job. My plan is to move out between mid-to-late October, or early November at the latest."
"The only reason I can't leave this exact second is because I have a few legal/administrative things to get cleared up so I’m completely untied from my mom, which will take a few weeks."
The OP also had proof that her mother liked her sister better.
"Has my mom ever admitted to favoring my sister? Yes."
"In arguments, she has explicitly told me that she doesn't see me as her legitimate daughter, and that she adored my sister more and forever will. She has also called me a 'monster,' told me there is a certain type of evil inside of me, and said she was afraid I would be just like my dad and try to harm them."
"She would even tell me that she was telling family and friends these things about me, but then later claim she 'just said it in the moment' and wouldn't be crazy enough to actually tell people that."
"Because I was so confused growing up and didn't know if she was lying or telling the truth, I started avoiding our family when they came over."
"Naturally, that just made things worse because she would get mad at me for avoiding them (even now as an adult), completely ignoring the fact that she was the one who lied about what she told them."
Unfortunately, the OP didn't have support from her father.
"What about my dad? My dad is not in my life."
"He was around sporadically, but never as a stable parent. My parents separated before I was born and divorced when I was two or three."
"Growing up, it was just constant back-and-forth toxicity, with him telling me how toxic my mother was, and her telling me the same about him."
"He would mostly only come over to see my sister, and often used me to care for her if he wanted to take her out to eat. Ultimately, my dad didn't care about anyone else other than my sister (and his drugs)."
"I hope this can clear some questions on the original post. I know I didn't provide many details as I originally should have. I honestly didn't want to post something too long, and I honestly did not expect it to be noticed."
"Thank you all for taking time to talk to me and share your thoughts."
The subReddit fully sided with the OP, pointing out that no matter how heated the moment was, it would never excuse the terrible things the OP's mother had said to her.
If the OP's mother really wanted a relationship with her, she'd drop the defensiveness and demands, offer a genuine apology, and work hard to be better for both of her children.
That takes a very rare kind of person to pull off, and it didn't sound like the OP's mother had that in her.
If you or someone you know is struggling, you can contact the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 988.
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