Money is tight for a lot of people right now.
So counting pennies and cutting costs are heavy on the minds of many, especially parents.
That's why luxuries aren't a top priority.
And expensive birthday parties can definitely be viewed as a luxury.
Redditor burner92739383 wanted to discuss their experience and get some feedback. So naturally, they came to visit the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subReddit.
They asked:
"WIBTA if I didn't let my daughter go to her friend's 16th birthday party?"
The Original Poster (OP) explained:
"Context: My daughter is 15 and got invited to go out for 'dinner' (really lunch) at a K[orean] BBQ joint near us for her friend's 16th."
"My daughter has been dying to try KBBQ- and her friend is renting out a karaoke room."
"On the invitation, however, it says all the kids invited are required to bring $80 to pay for their own food and give back to the girl's mom for the karaoke room costs."
"I think this is BS- if you invite someone, you should be at least OFFERING to pay."
"At least that's how I was raised."
"And Korean BBQ- that stuff's not cheap!"
"Don't know about other places, but the restaurant my daughter was invited to charges like $60 for one meal which is expensive!!! "
"And expecting these 15-16-year-olds to bring that money is insane!"
"The food itself is enough, but what really doesn't make sense to me is why my kid is expected to pay back for the karaoke room. That wasn't even her idea."
"This is turning into a rant so to cut things short- I usually wouldn't have an issue just giving her the money even if it was annoying."
"But my husband got laid off recently, and money is tight."
"I really don't know if I'll be able to afford to give her $80 for food that, in all honesty, I don't think she'll even like."
"My daughter is very picky, so I really don't think she'll like anything other than maybe the meat."
"Anyway, I feel really bad telling her she can't go, especially since she's been struggling to make friends lately and is finally being invited to something."
"The guilt I'd feel not letting her go is tremendous, but I really can barely afford it right now."
"I'm sure I could make it work if I tried, but it would just be so much easier to have her tell her friend she's busy or something."
The OP was left to wonder:
"Anyway, WIBTA if I don't let her?"
Redditors shared their thoughts on this matter and weighed some options to the question AITA:
- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA – You're The A**hole
- NAH – No A**holes Here
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
Many Redditors declared OP WOULD BE the A**hole.
"YWBTA if you don't handle this conversation well."
"Explain that money is tight, and that you don't love the way the invitation was handled, but do not discourage her because of things she might not like to eat."
"You should not pre-filter activities that she might not enjoy; that is part of growing up."
"She has to go and experience these things for herself."
"Maybe meet in the middle and explain that you will need some extra help with chores and stuff to help offset the cost, like an advance on some future allowance money."
"You are NTA for thinking this is a fairly rude invite for teenagers, essentially putting all the parents in a tough spot."
"The venue should 100% be covered, if not the food too." ~ CrankyBiker
"If you are not allowing her to go, YTA."
"If you are not giving her $80 so that she can go, but you are willing to let her pay for herself and help her figure out how to do work to earn it if she doesn't already have $80 saved, NAH." ~ curien
"YTA if you just keep her from going."
"Your daughter is old enough to start paying for these expenses herself."
"And she is also old enough for you to stop having the final say on what she can and can't spend her money on."
"And yeah, some of it is going to be stupid or not what you would've spent money on."
"But that is for both her and you to learn."
"Be fair and give her whatever money you ordinarily would've given her for a gift if this wasn't a paid party and explain this is all you can spare right now and that the rest is up to her."
"Remind her that your family's finances have changed and you all need to make changes as a result."
"Leave it to your daughter to decide if it is worth going to the party if she has to pay the rest herself."
"If you can help her earn the rest of the money through chores (or hooking her up with family/friends that have a few chores for her) do that." ~ palcatraz
"Did you seriously just say that 'you don't think she'd like anything besides meat' in regards to a K-BBQ?"
"It's 90% meat."
"Don't impose your own opinions onto her."
"If she's excited about trying a K-BBQ you shouldn't be trying to persuade her otherwise - even if this party isn't an option."
"If you can't afford it, then be honest with her about it."
"You should be talking to her about all of this and considering reasonable compromises if possible."
"You could suggest she do small jobs to gain some pocket money to ease the financial strain, etc."
"If your main reason is 'it would be easier to say she's busy' then yes that is an AH move."
"You've admitted that she's struggling to make friends and that this is something that would bring her genuine joy, if you're taking that from her because 'it's easier,' that's incredibly harsh to your daughter."
"As for 'you're not sure it's worth it' that depends on what value you're placing on it."
"In monetary regards?"
"No it's probably not."
"For your daughter's happiness and mental health?"
"That's up to you."
"If you genuinely can't afford it and there are no other options, then that's a different story."
"Again, have an honest and open discussion with her and actually listen to what she is saying."
"If the party is a no go at least she will know you tried to make it happen and aren't just dismissing her feelings."
"For now I withhold judgment as at this point I think you're in a neutral position."
"I believe how you handle this matter would sway judgment either way." ~ Suspicious-Bit4888
"I would just add to this."
"Money is tight, so that explanation should be enough for you to not make this big expense."
"But she has struggled with friends."
"So it's big that she finally is branching out with that."
"It's important to help and support it."
"That being said, I would come to more of an agreement."
"She has to pick up a couple of babysitting jobs over the next couple of weekends to cover this (or at least half)."
"'Daddy isn't working. So we don't have the money to spend on this.'"
"'But I know you really want to go.'"
"'And I really want you to go too.'"
"'But I think the only way is if we meet in the middle.'"
"'I can cover half and you the other half. I know you don't have money right now, so I'll LEND you the other half.'"
"'And over the weekends you can do a couple of babysitting jobs for neighbors.'"
"'Or mowing their lawns. Etc.'"
"'If we can agree to this, I'll be happy to cover half of it.'"
"'I'll tighten some other expenses here and there just to make sure we can comfortably spend the half.'"
"'What do you think?'"
"This will help her understand the situation you're in."
"And hopefully, some babysitting can be more consistent for her, and she can start getting her own money." ~ Cesarlikethesalad
"I mean I remember being invited to friends' parties when I was younger and my mother giving me money for the event."
"Skating rink or bowling party."
"The space was rented and decorations, cake, and maybe ice cream and drinks were provided."
"But if I was bowling/skating or playing video games or any other activity I was expected to pay plus the cost of a birthday present."
"That was decades ago but would have put my mom out $20-40."
"I feel like this is about the same."
"So I think YWBTAH if you straight up said no."
"But have a conversation with your daughter."
"Maybe even have a conversation with the parent of their friend."
"It may be a little embarrassing to talk about your financial problems, but I feel a parent of a close friend would understand and maybe be lenient on maybe forgoing the karaoke room fee to help out." ~ PublicFishing3199
"YTA. If you can make it work but can't be bothered, you're an a**hole."
"It sounds like you're trying to justify not giving her the money so badly to make yourself sound better in your own head."
"If you flat out could not afford £80, then absolutely NTA but it sounds like you could if you tried."
"Get her to do some chores for pocket money, help her sell some old clothes to rack up that amount if you really can't dish it out."
"Don't make your child miss out on something because you're caught up on principles." ~ Sparkleunicorn272727
"YTA if you don't let her go given your comments about her struggling to make friends."
"Brainstorm with her how she can earn at least some of the money to pay for it."
"And the other mom is absolutely TA do do it like this."
"Tacky beyond belief."
"But that's a separate question from choosing to exclude your daughter from this event." ~ kaan3836
"YTA. You said you could find a way to make it work, but it would be so much easier if she didn't go."
"I hope that hasn't always been your mentality with your kid(s) or life in general."
"My parents didn't have much money growing up, but we never went without, and they refused to let us miss out on important experiences while still having conversations with us once we were old enough."
"Let her go, but explain this will be her allowance for a few weeks."
"Or tell her if she wants to go, you also cannot purchase a gift, and she should make something for her friend."
"Ordinarily, I wouldn't judge someone else's financial situation, but since you said you could make it work but want to take the easy way out, I am." ~ AdSmart6143
"YWBTA. If you can't afford it, that's fine."
"Tell your daughter that."
"Be apologetic."
"If you can afford it, but don't want her to go on principle, YTA."
"DO NOT expect her to lie to her friends so you can save face."
"It's wild that you would even suggest that she tell them she is 'busy.'" ~ Primus_is_OK_I_guess
"YTA. At this age, especially since she's struggling to make friends already, being excluded would be devastating."
"Make it work."
"But have a frank conversation with her about the money."
"Tell her you understand this is important and you support her, but you need her to start contributing to her 'fun' expenses, either through a job or by performing tasks and chores."
"Use this as an opportunity for a learning experience and a show of support." ~ Any_Yogurtcloset7865
"YWBTA, and she may never forgive you."
"Just pay to let her go."
"My parents used to take me and my friends to theme parks. Everyone paid their own way."
"My parents took the job of driving and chaperoning."
"It's not like paying for everyone is always assumed." ~ jaimechandra
"As someone who struggled for friends all through high school, young me hates you."
"Current age me understands your dilemma, but I really suggest you do what you can to scrape up the money and let her go. YWBTA." ~ saltedkumihimo
"YTA. She's having a hard time making friends and you've admitted you are a big spender, but now the pocketbook is suddenly closed." ~ Electrical_Sky5833
"Is it tacky to ask guests to pay their way on an invitation? Kind of."
"Are your concerns over money valid? Of course!"
"But with that said… she's 15 and excited about going to a party for one of her only friends."
"Unless you're awful parents, making her skip this would probably be a shoe-in for top 5 in 'most devastating childhood memories.'"
"YWBTA if you don't at least try to make this work."
"Maybe you could explain the situation to the other mom and ask to pay less or pay later." ~ boooooooooo_cowboys
"YWNBTA. It's outrageous to charge people money to attend a birthday party, let alone $80 for a kid's birthday party."
"It's a lesson for her."
"If people ask for something outrageous, turn them down."
"You can work on other ways of getting her in the social swim." ~ Regular_Boot_3540
OP came back to chat...
"It's only been like 30 minutes, but thank you for the responses."
"Honestly, you all have opened my eyes a lot to ways to go about this I didn't even consider."
"I want to say I really do like the idea of her getting her own money to pay, but the party is in a week and she does not have a job."
"She doesn't really have any way to make money (that doesn't involve chores, but either way, that would come out of my pockets. And before you twist this sentence, I have no problem giving her allowance, it's just the current situation in which it's hard)."
"And she's a big spender, which she got from me haha, so she doesn't really have money saved up."
"Don't worry- I have a savings account for her."
"I also appreciate your criticisms about how I said 'she probably won't like it.'"
"I guess I didn't realize KBBQ was mostly meat."
"I thought it would have more traditional Korean food, which is a judgment error on my part."
"I actually am happy she wants to expand her tastes, so I understand the way I worded it was iffy."
"If and when I reach a consensus, I will update you all, so thank you for your comments and suggestions."
"They help a ton."
This is a tough situation, OP.
Reddit certainly has a lot of creative ideas that could help.
It's nice to hear that you're open to suggestions.
The money part of it is such a struggle.
Hopefully, you can all make this work.
Good luck.
















New Mom Irate After Father-In-Law Ruins Her Birthday With 'Vulgar' Comment About Her Breasts
There's nothing quite like the feeling of going through all the work to prepare a fun celebration, just for someone to undo it with an unkind or gross comment.
That feeling just gets worse when it's your birthday, and that comment was made by someone who's supposed to care about you, sympathized the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Rude-Pepper-2389 had recently given birth and decided to have a special birthday celebration to reconnect with her loved ones after becoming a mom.
When her father-in-law stopped by unexpectedly and then made comments about her body, the Original Poster (OP) was left so uncomfortable that it ruined the whole celebration for her.
She asked the sub:
The OP wanted to have a special birthday celebration after her baby was born.
"I currently have a five-month-old and haven’t really been taking care of myself or dressing up since having the baby."
"It’s my (25 Female) birthday, and we were having friends over at our house for a private dinner to celebrate."
"My husband (24 Male) and I have been together since we were 18."
"I decided to put on this new silk shirt I got, which, admittedly, was low-cut, but I felt cute in it and felt comfortable around the friends we were having over."
Everything was fine until the OP's father-in-law (FIL) stopped by unexpectedly.
"My husband's dad decided to stop by on his way home from work."
"I will say, he was likely drunk. He works two hours away and proudly told my husband he's down to only four beers on his drive home each day... so, that's healthy."
"When he came in, I was on the couch with my baby propped up beside me, bottle feeding him. Keep in mind, I am not breastfeeding, so no, my breasts are not any larger right now."
"My husband's dad leaned down to look at the baby and then suddenly shouted, 'D**n, son, she could knock you out with those things in bed! Like cracking two coconuts together.'"
"This was fully and undoubtedly in reference to my breasts."
The OP was shocked by the comment and very uncomfortable.
"It made me deeply uncomfortable and embarrassed."
"I was so stunned, I couldn’t even process what he said to me, and our friends just stared at me, blinking."
"He’s a redneck, so he's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years, but this just seems to take the cake, as it was the first time it was directed at me."
"When he stepped out, I told my husband he needed to speak to him, and that the comment wasn’t okay."
"I went to change clothes and decided to never ever wear that shirt again."
"When I brought it up to my husband, he said he didn't hear the comment at first, but then he laughed when I told him what he said. He's always laughed when he feels awkward and has always had a hard time standing up to his parents in any capacity."
"When he and my father-in-law spoke, my FIL just said, 'I shouldn’t have said that to her, I know how she can be,' which just feels even more like I’m just being dramatic."
"Since then, I think my husband just wants me to drop it and move on, truthfully."
The OP wasn't sure what to do after what happened.
"This genuinely ruined my entire night. Am I just too sensitive, or was this an inappropriate thing to say?"
"There's also been no apology since then. This happened on Thursday, and then my father-in-law came by again on Friday with flowers to wish me a happy Mother's Day before Mother's Day Sunday."
"I think that was his way of trying to just breeze past the awkwardness. He's never gotten me a gift the whole seven years I've known him, so the flowers were odd. But I still feel really uncomfortable."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that her father-in-law's comments were rude and just plain creepy.
"NOR at all. That was really rude of him. Anyone would be offended." - Bookbringer
"NOR. That’s firmly in the category of what should be an 'inside thought,' and we should learn what those are at a much younger age than this guy is."
"F**king h**l, this is an absolutely mental thing to say out loud, let alone to your daughter-in-law." - Electronic-Fennel828
"FIL is an AH. I love that you think his being a redneck excuses it, but d**n. Even rednecks should know better than to speak that way to their son's wife."
"What does your husband have to say? Does he understand how breath-takingly rude his father was, or is he Team 'That's Just How He Is'?"
"I'd go very low contact with the old perv. NOR, he put you in an uncomfortable position with his crude remark. Is he married? I'd tell the MIL. I'd tell the whole family. Yes, it's embarrassing, but he is the one who should be embarrassed. Don't accept his non-apology." - Top-Bit85
"Maybe I’m desensitized after having large breasts since I was 13 (I’m 28 now), but I let out a little snort based on how immature of a joke it was. I’d simply tell FIL, 'Yes, I know, my boobs are big,' and move on."
"That said, I would never make such a comment about another person's body. Just because I'm technically fine with it doesn't mean I assume anyone else is!"
"Not everyone is the same, and if OP felt uncomfortable, she’s NOR. Her body, her boundaries." - Both_Original2094
"I’m sorry. That’s upsetting. My father is like this with his father. Even if it’s very offensive comments, he’s uncomfortable and has problems confronting him. It sounds like your husband isn’t going to have a talk with him, which is hurtful."
"I would explain to your husband how uncomfortable the situation was for you and that it’s a serious matter, especially if it happens again. And if he still tries to brush it off, then I would tell him you no longer want your FIL coming to your home."
"It’s your life, too, and he’s not the one being hurt here, you are." - w_coastultraviolence
Others were specifically angry about the tactics the father-in-law used to try to get out of trouble.
"Seriously? Saying 'I know how she can be' is a classic way to blame the victim for having boundaries. It’s your birthday, not a Hooters convention. What a creep. If he can’t look at the baby without checking out your breast, he shouldn't be invited to the house." - Specific_Parsnip3264
"'I know how she can be' is so f**ked up. He's the one being a disgusting person. You need to shine up your husband's spine to properly call him out at the time next time, because there will be a next time." - dancepantz
"The bit that pisses me off the most is, 'I know how she can be,' which is his way of making it her problem that she doesn't like her FiL sexualising her in front of her friends." - Outside-Partait-8935
"The 'joke' comment is gross, but that follow-up comment is infuriating. NOR, OP. But this guy will be in your life for a while, so firmly & calmly shutting this stuff down is completely appropriate."
"I'd wear the d**n shirt again to the next family function and look him right in the eyes next time!" - RationalFish
"When we let things like this slide for others, it's not long before it ends up on our doorstep, and of course, nobody says anything because keeping the peace is the norm. It doesn't have to be getting into their face and yelling abuse back. Just a comment such as, 'Well, that's super tacky to say,' or asking them why they'd say that." - Kattnapped
"The OP said, 'He's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years... but this is the first time it was directed to me.'"
"Normalise calling stuff out when they are talking about others, and they won't feel so comfortable saying it to you."
"It's a gross thing for him to say, but I guess him buying you flowers is his way of saying sorry."
"Sounds like you are in the situation of a lot of new mothers, where you suddenly realise this stuff matters because you want better influences for your child, and better support for yourself. NOR." - Jumpy-Jello-
Now, about that shirt...
"Please re-think your decision to never wear the cute shirt again, girl!! It's something that you liked very much because it made you feel good about yourself. Don't let some backwoods id**t ruin that for you."
"Wear that shirt till it's worn out and can't be worn anymore!! You should be able to feel good about yourself in whatever you like to wear."
"Your husband should have immediately checked his father, not waited until he was told to do so after his father left the room. In front of everyone there, your husband should have told his father not to ever speak about you or to you in that kind of manner, and if his father doesn't like it, he knows where the door is."
"Hubby should have called him out for his response as well. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were not the problem; his dad was. This comes down to your husband needing to protect his wife, and he didn't do that." - Lynzo141982
"If he is a redneck, like you said, he won't outright apologize, but flowers are his way of saying sorry."
"I hope he won't say anything again, or else you can expect a nicely tended garden for at least a year."
"About your top, I hope you can wear it again. It takes a lot to feel cute, being a new mum."
"If not, get some fabric dye, dye the top a different color, and embroider a flower on it. This makes the top new, different, and every time you wear it, you can use the mantra ... I'm cute, I don't care what anyone says."
"You've got this!!" - No_Kangaroo_6637
Even if the father-in-law was joking and meant no harm, this is one of those situations where he needs to admit that his joke did not land well, he did cause harm, and he needs to apologize. Just because some people enjoy joking in that manner does not mean that everyone will be comfortable with it, and it's important to respect everyone's boundaries and zones of comfort.