When a spouse dies, nothing makes sense.
There is so much to do, so much to plan, and so much to grieve.
It's especially difficult when the in-laws are part of the battle.
And when property and wealth have to be divided, that is when the claws can come out.
Case in point...
A deleted Redditor wanted to discuss his experience and get some feedback. So naturally, he came to visit the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subReddit.
He asked:
"AITA for Not Returning My Deceased Husband's Wedding Jewelry to His Family?"
The Original Poster (OP) explained:
"So, the situation is complicated, and I'm (35 M[ale]) really torn about whether I'm the jerk in this situation."
"My husband passed away recently, and we had this beautiful wedding jewelry set that he gifted to me."
"Now, his family is pressuring me to give it back, but it's not as simple as it sounds."
"First off, the jewelry wasn't some family heirloom; it was a gift from my husband."
"He knew I came from a less affluent background, and he always tried to make me feel comfortable in his world."
"The jewelry set was a symbol of our love and commitment, not just a shiny accessory."
"The real issue here is the strained relationship I've had with my in-laws from the start."
"My husband was from a wealthy family, and they never fully accepted me because of my modest background."
"They were always polite, but you could sense the judgment and the subtle digs."
"Now, my mother-in-law and sister-in-law are insisting that I return the jewelry set."
"They claim it holds sentimental value to the family, but I can't shake the feeling that it's more about their disdain for me than any genuine sentiment."
"I'm stuck in this moral dilemma – do I honor my late husband's family wishes, or do I hold onto this piece that means so much to me?"
"The tension has escalated to the point where they're threatening legal action, and I'm afraid I might end up losing something that means the world to me."
"On one hand, I want to respect my husband's memory and our relationship, but on the other, I don't want to be seen as the villain in this family drama."
The OP was left to wonder:
"So, Reddit, AITA for standing my ground and keeping the wedding jewelry set, or should I just give in to my in-laws' demands and avoid making a difficult situation even worse?"
Redditors shared their thoughts on this matter and weighed some options to the question AITA:
- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA – You're The A**hole
- NAH – No A**holes Here
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
Many Redditors declared OP was NOT the A**hole.
"NTA. You should contact a lawyer to be sure, but a spouse typically gets the whole estate unless a will says otherwise."
"Your jewelry is yours by right, by his wishes, and most likely legally."
"You don't need to deal with them anymore."
"Cut ties and move on with your life." ~ nome5314
"NTA - I think it holds much more sentimental value for you than it does for them!"
"Just because your sister picked it up at the store for him doesn't give her any rights or any sentimental attachment."
"They are either being nasty or greedy." ~ NobodyButMyShadow
"Just because your sister picked it up at the store."
"That's what gets me."
"S[ister] I[n] L[aw]'s only 'attachment' to the set is as OP's husband's 'errand girl.'"
"The set has nothing to do with the family, even more so if OP and hubby co-mingled finances in any way."
"The in-laws really are disgustingly entitled AHs."
"OP doesn't need a lawyer, but I would take as much proof I could to a lawyer's office and say, 'This is what's happening. Here's my proof they are wrong. Please send a cease and desist.'"
"And to have all correspondence to the lawyer."
"The legal paperwork might make them back off, given their money however, they might feel entitled enough to 'pay' their way to get what they want, but at least having the paperwork go through the lawyer OP can reduce the stress for herself while also creating a legal paper trail for a formal harassment claim." ~ Environmental_Art591
"NTA. It would be different if were a family heirloom passed down multiple generations rather than a lavish gift to welcome you into the family they have zero claim or connection to."
"Ideally, there was a will, but that seems unlikely given this post."
"If there isn't a will or prenuptial, please hire an estate lawyer ASAP and buckle up for a bumpy ride."
"Best of luck and definitely fight them on the jewelry as I'm sure it means far more to you than them." ~ AppropriateScience71
"When my husband died, he made me promise to NOT return any heirlooms; I ended up giving our nephew's son the most valuable piece as a gift (a pre-Columbian waterpot that was his mother's family worth < 30k.)"
"It felt wrong to keep it, but they refused it at first because it was MINE."
"If they had asked if would have given it back immediately, it was a piece of their history of bloodlines and a culture I don't belong to."
"But a wedding set is something completely different; it's like they are erasing her." ~ drezdogge
"NTA. Not a family heirloom?"
"It's a gift to you from your husband."
"It's yours plain and simple."
"They probably think they can bully you because they're better than you. They're not."
"They're awful people despite their alleged social status."
"Sit down with a lawyer ASAP and be prepared to go court."
"But you have a very strong case for ownership, and they should end up paying your legal fees." ~ joe-lefty500
"Sorry for your loss."
"You didn't mention how long ago you got married or where you live."
"At least in the US, wedding gifts between spouses are given based on the expectation of being together until death."
"Whether you had many years of a happy marriage or only a brief time, you still held up your end of that arrangement, and the jewelry is rightfully yours."
"It doesn't matter if the jewelry was a recent purchase or a family heirloom."
"Your husband dying unexpectedly doesn't make the wedding set stop being your property."
"It doesn't sound like his family has any reason to want the jewelry."
"They just don't want you to have it."
"If they're already threatening legal action, I don't see how your relationship with them can get much worse."
"Don't let them bully you." ~ throw05282021
"NTA. Your post seems contradictory.
"'Was gifted to us' vs 'Was a gift from my husband.'"
"If it was a gift from your husband, you own it free and clear."
"His family has no rights whatsoever."
"If it was a gift to the two of you, then you jointly owned it."
"The only possible claim his family has to anything of his is if he willed it to them."
"Consult a lawyer. You probably owe the family zilch."
"Block them and tell them all communications will now go to your lawyer." ~ extinct_diplodocus
"NTA. First, previously given gifts are not part of an estate."
"So that jewelry set is outside any estate your husband left."
"The jewelry is yours. Full stop."
"Second, you're his spouse."
"His jerk family is welcome to try to file a claim against his estate during probate, but generally, his estate goes to you (unless he had a will/prenup/etc. specifying otherwise) and any children."
"If his family wants to file a claim against his estate, it will be time-consuming and expensive for them, and they'll have to prove the debt or ownership or whatever to the court."
"I'd contact an estate attorney immediately if I were you."
"Then, direct those vultures to contact your attorney directly going forward."
"The only thing you have to lose by cutting them out of your life is a series of headaches and some extra heartache."
"I'm so sorry for your loss."
"Focus on you, on healing, and on wearing those beautiful pieces that are filled with such great memories."
"I'm sure it is what he would want." ~v_blondie
"NTA. He bought it for you."
"They are not entitled to anything unless your husband specifically wrote it on a will."
"It has sentimental value to you, not to them." ~ Docmarin
OP came back to give more info...
"Update: I made a mistake in my story."
"The jewelry set was picked out and paid for by my husband, but my sister-in-law collected it for him to give it to me."
"Thank you guys for the advice."
"This situation has been putting me under a lot of stress."
"It's even worse when trying to plan a funeral."
"My friends have taken some of the funeral load because of my health being at risk."
'I'm going to get a lawyer right after the funeral this Wednesday."
"I took your advice and searched through his study to find the receipt/invoice for the set."
"I found it in a file in his safe."
"It contains all the details of the purchase, including things that I didn't even know."
"I took it and the set and plan to give it to one of my friends so they can't get access to."
"By the way, no, my in-laws don't have any spare keys or access to our home."
"I have 8ft walls around our yard, cameras, and a security system."
"We also have a neighborhood watch chat just in case of any suspicious activity."
"Also his will was read the day after his death."
"It stated I was the sole beneficiary of all his assets before and during our marriage."
"That includes our home, cars, investments, etc."
The OP provided and additional update.
"I woke up to aggressive knocking on my front door."
"There was a police officer and a man in a suit who I know as their family lawyer and they served my papers to appear in court."
"So I have a court case tomorrow at 12:00 p.m."
"I was blindsided by this since I thought they were trying to get me to fold when they threatened legal action but I didn't know they were serious."
"I already contacted my lawyer, and I will make an update post tomorrow after the hearing."
"For those who asked, I am from Trinidad and Tobago, and my husband is from Switzerland, where we've lived since before our marriage."
Well, OP, Reddit is with you.
You are standing your ground. It's sad this has had to get into legalities.
You're mourning your beloved. Hopefully, this can all be reconciled peacefully.
Good luck. We're so sorry for your loss.
















New Mom Irate After Father-In-Law Ruins Her Birthday With 'Vulgar' Comment About Her Breasts
There's nothing quite like the feeling of going through all the work to prepare a fun celebration, just for someone to undo it with an unkind or gross comment.
That feeling just gets worse when it's your birthday, and that comment was made by someone who's supposed to care about you, sympathized the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Rude-Pepper-2389 had recently given birth and decided to have a special birthday celebration to reconnect with her loved ones after becoming a mom.
When her father-in-law stopped by unexpectedly and then made comments about her body, the Original Poster (OP) was left so uncomfortable that it ruined the whole celebration for her.
She asked the sub:
The OP wanted to have a special birthday celebration after her baby was born.
"I currently have a five-month-old and haven’t really been taking care of myself or dressing up since having the baby."
"It’s my (25 Female) birthday, and we were having friends over at our house for a private dinner to celebrate."
"My husband (24 Male) and I have been together since we were 18."
"I decided to put on this new silk shirt I got, which, admittedly, was low-cut, but I felt cute in it and felt comfortable around the friends we were having over."
Everything was fine until the OP's father-in-law (FIL) stopped by unexpectedly.
"My husband's dad decided to stop by on his way home from work."
"I will say, he was likely drunk. He works two hours away and proudly told my husband he's down to only four beers on his drive home each day... so, that's healthy."
"When he came in, I was on the couch with my baby propped up beside me, bottle feeding him. Keep in mind, I am not breastfeeding, so no, my breasts are not any larger right now."
"My husband's dad leaned down to look at the baby and then suddenly shouted, 'D**n, son, she could knock you out with those things in bed! Like cracking two coconuts together.'"
"This was fully and undoubtedly in reference to my breasts."
The OP was shocked by the comment and very uncomfortable.
"It made me deeply uncomfortable and embarrassed."
"I was so stunned, I couldn’t even process what he said to me, and our friends just stared at me, blinking."
"He’s a redneck, so he's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years, but this just seems to take the cake, as it was the first time it was directed at me."
"When he stepped out, I told my husband he needed to speak to him, and that the comment wasn’t okay."
"I went to change clothes and decided to never ever wear that shirt again."
"When I brought it up to my husband, he said he didn't hear the comment at first, but then he laughed when I told him what he said. He's always laughed when he feels awkward and has always had a hard time standing up to his parents in any capacity."
"When he and my father-in-law spoke, my FIL just said, 'I shouldn’t have said that to her, I know how she can be,' which just feels even more like I’m just being dramatic."
"Since then, I think my husband just wants me to drop it and move on, truthfully."
The OP wasn't sure what to do after what happened.
"This genuinely ruined my entire night. Am I just too sensitive, or was this an inappropriate thing to say?"
"There's also been no apology since then. This happened on Thursday, and then my father-in-law came by again on Friday with flowers to wish me a happy Mother's Day before Mother's Day Sunday."
"I think that was his way of trying to just breeze past the awkwardness. He's never gotten me a gift the whole seven years I've known him, so the flowers were odd. But I still feel really uncomfortable."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that her father-in-law's comments were rude and just plain creepy.
"NOR at all. That was really rude of him. Anyone would be offended." - Bookbringer
"NOR. That’s firmly in the category of what should be an 'inside thought,' and we should learn what those are at a much younger age than this guy is."
"F**king h**l, this is an absolutely mental thing to say out loud, let alone to your daughter-in-law." - Electronic-Fennel828
"FIL is an AH. I love that you think his being a redneck excuses it, but d**n. Even rednecks should know better than to speak that way to their son's wife."
"What does your husband have to say? Does he understand how breath-takingly rude his father was, or is he Team 'That's Just How He Is'?"
"I'd go very low contact with the old perv. NOR, he put you in an uncomfortable position with his crude remark. Is he married? I'd tell the MIL. I'd tell the whole family. Yes, it's embarrassing, but he is the one who should be embarrassed. Don't accept his non-apology." - Top-Bit85
"Maybe I’m desensitized after having large breasts since I was 13 (I’m 28 now), but I let out a little snort based on how immature of a joke it was. I’d simply tell FIL, 'Yes, I know, my boobs are big,' and move on."
"That said, I would never make such a comment about another person's body. Just because I'm technically fine with it doesn't mean I assume anyone else is!"
"Not everyone is the same, and if OP felt uncomfortable, she’s NOR. Her body, her boundaries." - Both_Original2094
"I’m sorry. That’s upsetting. My father is like this with his father. Even if it’s very offensive comments, he’s uncomfortable and has problems confronting him. It sounds like your husband isn’t going to have a talk with him, which is hurtful."
"I would explain to your husband how uncomfortable the situation was for you and that it’s a serious matter, especially if it happens again. And if he still tries to brush it off, then I would tell him you no longer want your FIL coming to your home."
"It’s your life, too, and he’s not the one being hurt here, you are." - w_coastultraviolence
Others were specifically angry about the tactics the father-in-law used to try to get out of trouble.
"Seriously? Saying 'I know how she can be' is a classic way to blame the victim for having boundaries. It’s your birthday, not a Hooters convention. What a creep. If he can’t look at the baby without checking out your breast, he shouldn't be invited to the house." - Specific_Parsnip3264
"'I know how she can be' is so f**ked up. He's the one being a disgusting person. You need to shine up your husband's spine to properly call him out at the time next time, because there will be a next time." - dancepantz
"The bit that pisses me off the most is, 'I know how she can be,' which is his way of making it her problem that she doesn't like her FiL sexualising her in front of her friends." - Outside-Partait-8935
"The 'joke' comment is gross, but that follow-up comment is infuriating. NOR, OP. But this guy will be in your life for a while, so firmly & calmly shutting this stuff down is completely appropriate."
"I'd wear the d**n shirt again to the next family function and look him right in the eyes next time!" - RationalFish
"When we let things like this slide for others, it's not long before it ends up on our doorstep, and of course, nobody says anything because keeping the peace is the norm. It doesn't have to be getting into their face and yelling abuse back. Just a comment such as, 'Well, that's super tacky to say,' or asking them why they'd say that." - Kattnapped
"The OP said, 'He's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years... but this is the first time it was directed to me.'"
"Normalise calling stuff out when they are talking about others, and they won't feel so comfortable saying it to you."
"It's a gross thing for him to say, but I guess him buying you flowers is his way of saying sorry."
"Sounds like you are in the situation of a lot of new mothers, where you suddenly realise this stuff matters because you want better influences for your child, and better support for yourself. NOR." - Jumpy-Jello-
Now, about that shirt...
"Please re-think your decision to never wear the cute shirt again, girl!! It's something that you liked very much because it made you feel good about yourself. Don't let some backwoods id**t ruin that for you."
"Wear that shirt till it's worn out and can't be worn anymore!! You should be able to feel good about yourself in whatever you like to wear."
"Your husband should have immediately checked his father, not waited until he was told to do so after his father left the room. In front of everyone there, your husband should have told his father not to ever speak about you or to you in that kind of manner, and if his father doesn't like it, he knows where the door is."
"Hubby should have called him out for his response as well. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were not the problem; his dad was. This comes down to your husband needing to protect his wife, and he didn't do that." - Lynzo141982
"If he is a redneck, like you said, he won't outright apologize, but flowers are his way of saying sorry."
"I hope he won't say anything again, or else you can expect a nicely tended garden for at least a year."
"About your top, I hope you can wear it again. It takes a lot to feel cute, being a new mum."
"If not, get some fabric dye, dye the top a different color, and embroider a flower on it. This makes the top new, different, and every time you wear it, you can use the mantra ... I'm cute, I don't care what anyone says."
"You've got this!!" - No_Kangaroo_6637
Even if the father-in-law was joking and meant no harm, this is one of those situations where he needs to admit that his joke did not land well, he did cause harm, and he needs to apologize. Just because some people enjoy joking in that manner does not mean that everyone will be comfortable with it, and it's important to respect everyone's boundaries and zones of comfort.