Behavioral issues can be so difficult to live with.
They can be even more frustrating to properly diagnose.
There is a wealth of information and misinformation readily available.
For families, this can lead to considerable chaos.
Redditor throwaway17293739 wanted to discuss her experience and get some feedback, so naturally, she came to the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subreddit.
She asked:
"AITA for telling my daughter she's not autistic?"
The Original Poster (OP) explained:
"My (F[eamle] 49) daughter (F 18) was a problem child when she was little."
"Her school recommended that I get her assessed for autism when she was 12, I did (although I knew she wasn't even then), the psychologist said she's not, so that's the end of that."
"For a couple of years, all was normal, but now she's started with it again."
"Casually mentioning she can't wear certain clothes or eat certain food 'because of the autism.'"
"She doesn't just throw it around as a joke, either."
"She is 100% serious."
"A couple of weeks ago, we were on vacation."
"I took my younger kids to see the Statue of Liberty, and my daughter went to the National History Museum."
"She liked it a lot, was there from opening to closing, and color-coded the map based on her favorite rooms."
"She was showing it to her brother in our hotel room, and her brother asked her, 'Are you sure you're not autistic?'"
"And I interjected and said that she's not."
"She got upset, and I told her she can't self-diagnose with everything she sees online."
"She got upset and won't talk to me now."
"I feel like I just told her the hard truth; someone had to pop her bubble."
The OP was left to wonder:
"So... AITA?"
Redditors shared their thoughts on this matter and weighed in on some options to the question, AITA:
- NTA – Not The A**hole
- YTA – You're The A**hole
- NAH – No A**holes Here
- ESH – Everyone Sucks Here
Many Redditors declared that OP WAS the A**hole.
"Diagnosing Autism is not a perfect science, and diagnosing girls has been particularly imperfect."
"I absolutely would not consider one test on a preteen girl 6 years ago definitive proof that she does not have it."
"If she recognizes it in herself, and has had teachers recognize it in her, and has had family members recognize it in her, it's absolutely possible."
"Honestly, I think YTA for being so weirdly insistent that she's not." ~ e11emnope
"She needs a reassessment."
"Neurodivergence is underdiagnosed in girls and is sometimes missed." ~ sweet_caroline20
"I wonder why she was a 'problem child?'"
"I'm sure it didn't have anything to do with her having an unsupportive, dismissive parent, though."
"You probably make her feel like she is wrong and bad all the time."
"So what if she does or doesn't have autism?"
"Maybe try listening to her for once, instead of always thinking you are right all the time." ~ Own_Intern9024
"I can attest."
"This is a reason why I don't talk to my stepfather anymore."
"Just because he's older than me, he thinks he's right about everything, no matter how much hard evidence I showed him."
"It was exhausting."
"I tapped out."
"Since a few of you can't seem to cope, I'll give you an exact example."
"The myth that wet hair makes you sick."
"Doctors did a study where they had participants knowingly get infected with the cold virus and did it in both cold and hot environments."
"The transmission rate was the same." ~ jessness024
"This. My mother treated me like an annoyance and a burden my entire life."
"This whole thing smacks of victim-blaming and a total refusal to try and genuinely understand where the daughter is coming from, and shaming her in front of others instead."
"OP sounds just like my mom, who takes sick pleasure in being mean."
"OP, this is your child."
"They have something going on, and instead of trying to understand and be supportive, you are going out of your way to be nasty about it."
"There's a reason I don't talk to my mom anymore. YTA." ~ stanthecham
"OP is TA just for stating off the bat, 'My kid was a problem child when they were little.' SMH."
"So, the assessment back then said no autism."
"Did the behaviors or issues continue?"
"Or did they magically disappear after that?"
"Did OP just pretend everything was fine and ignore clear indications that their child needed help with something?
"My 13-year-old is getting reassessed because he's moving on to high school."
"I want him to have the best possible start, and to do so, we'll take another look at his dyslexia and see what he still needs a lot of support for."
"And we're screening for autism because his initial assessor expected him to have gotten better with some things she thought might be age-related or just his personality."
"But now that he's a teenager and these things are still there, she's recommended the new assessor screen him just in case."
"They might be signs of autism, they might not be."
"But to be dismissive out of hand is not okay."
"To the OP, YTA." ~ girlfromals
"YTA, girls are notoriously misdiagnosed because of preconceived ideas of how autism looks in primarily white boys."
"It is completely possible she is autistic and was not evaluated properly." ~ Interest-Amazing
"Not to mention other diagnoses have associated sensory issues and behaviors similar to autism."
"And girls can be more difficult to diagnose with autism."
"Sounds like they did one assessment and went, 'so that's the end of that.'"
"If the school was recommending an assessment, something was going on."
"Pretty dismissive when the girl seems to have something going on, and at least feels like she's neurodivergent in some way and is seeking answers because the parent doesn't seem to want to."
"Hopefully fake rage bait, but honestly, I see it all the time in my job." ~ evilcelery
"YTA, one psychologist's opinion at age 12 many years ago is not a definitive no."
"Girls have historically been missed, and autism assessments have changed to accommodate girls' presentation of autism."
"The fact that it's been a question before means it should still be a question."
"She needs support in exploring this further, not invalidating." ~ Helen_305
"YTA. I'm not qualified to say whether or not she's autistic, but ultimately I think it's irrelevant."
"You are supposed to be her supportive, emotionally regulated role model."
"Instead, you are taking an approach that is not only dismissive but punitive."
"How does this threaten you?"
"Is there an underlying fear about what it might mean for you and your parenting if she were autistic?"
"As I say, the label is irrelevant."
"She is using it as a vehicle to communicate to you that she's struggling and wants to better understand how she fits into the world."
"You don't even have to use the word 'autism' to be curious and supportive about that."
"You could just start by spending more time with her and learning how she perceives her difficulties." Instead, you're trying to shut her down."
"What will happen next is she will stop trying with you and find someone else who makes her feel heard." ~ WeeklyPermission2397
"Agree with this."
"Also, autism is often missed in women and girls as it can present differently due to higher rates of masking, etc."
"So, one assessment years ago may not be as definitive as you think it is, OP."
"Heavily recommend getting her retested if she is convinced she is autistic, using a professional with experience on autism in women and girls."
"Even if autism is not the correct diagnosis, she sounds like she is struggling and would benefit from some help." ~ ShepardMagnus
"YTA - the parent questionnaire has a huge influence on whether a child is diagnosed with autism or not."
"You clearly have your head buried in a sandbox somewhere - so - chances are that your disbelief and insistence 'nothing is wrong with my child' combined with the fact that they've determined that autism presents much differently in females played a huge role in the outcome."
"Stop being dismissive and mean." ~ Acrobatic_Hippo_9593
"YTA. This feels more like you don't want your kid to be autistic, so you wouldn't accept that as a possible option."
"Maybe her evaluation at 12 did not determine that she is, but that doesn't necessarily mean she is not."
"Maybe it isn't 'you are not autistic', but rather 'you have not been diagnosed with anything.'"
"Also, there are other things that can contribute to certain behaviors and quirks that are not autism."
"She's 18."
"She's an adult and can get herself assessed again if she feels she wants answers, but you should stay out of it when someone else inquires." ~ BoobySlap_0506
"YTA. If the school recommended testing, then they obviously saw some signs."
"One evaluation, once, doesn't mean she isn't autistic."
"Was the psychologist even trained in autism diagnosis?"
"You should support her to get another assessment."
"If the second assessment says she's not autistic, then ok."
"But autism is often underdiagnosed in girls." ~ Okdoey
"YTA. Girls are historically misdiagnosed/undiagnosed when it comes to autism."
"Not saying she is or isn't, but you are her mother, and you are going out of your way to undermine her feelings and experiences for what?"
"To be right?"
"Hopefully, she can get the support she needs." ~ studentnurse133333
"YTA, but only because you're seeing this as a black/white thing."
"Autism in women/girls is severely underdiagnosed - even with testing."
"Even if she's NOT autistic - she's clearly crying out to be seen or stand out, so she might have something else going on."
"She also may just be trying to get your attention because she feels like she's not being heard."
"Judging from how you handled this - I'm going to go with that last part." ~ PrincessBuzzkill
"Yeah, no, sorry, YTA, there is no female profile still for autism, and less than 4 out of 10 girls on the spectrum get diagnosed."
"You are misguided, misinformed, and a bit of an ar*e."
"I wouldn't talk to you either." ~ angelskiesblue
Reddit is not pleased with you, OP.
Whether or not your "diagnosis" was right or wrong is superfluous.
There are better ways to handle situations like this.
A little finesse and care go a long way.
It may be time for some serious family counselling.
















New Mom Irate After Father-In-Law Ruins Her Birthday With 'Vulgar' Comment About Her Breasts
There's nothing quite like the feeling of going through all the work to prepare a fun celebration, just for someone to undo it with an unkind or gross comment.
That feeling just gets worse when it's your birthday, and that comment was made by someone who's supposed to care about you, sympathized the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Rude-Pepper-2389 had recently given birth and decided to have a special birthday celebration to reconnect with her loved ones after becoming a mom.
When her father-in-law stopped by unexpectedly and then made comments about her body, the Original Poster (OP) was left so uncomfortable that it ruined the whole celebration for her.
She asked the sub:
The OP wanted to have a special birthday celebration after her baby was born.
"I currently have a five-month-old and haven’t really been taking care of myself or dressing up since having the baby."
"It’s my (25 Female) birthday, and we were having friends over at our house for a private dinner to celebrate."
"My husband (24 Male) and I have been together since we were 18."
"I decided to put on this new silk shirt I got, which, admittedly, was low-cut, but I felt cute in it and felt comfortable around the friends we were having over."
Everything was fine until the OP's father-in-law (FIL) stopped by unexpectedly.
"My husband's dad decided to stop by on his way home from work."
"I will say, he was likely drunk. He works two hours away and proudly told my husband he's down to only four beers on his drive home each day... so, that's healthy."
"When he came in, I was on the couch with my baby propped up beside me, bottle feeding him. Keep in mind, I am not breastfeeding, so no, my breasts are not any larger right now."
"My husband's dad leaned down to look at the baby and then suddenly shouted, 'D**n, son, she could knock you out with those things in bed! Like cracking two coconuts together.'"
"This was fully and undoubtedly in reference to my breasts."
The OP was shocked by the comment and very uncomfortable.
"It made me deeply uncomfortable and embarrassed."
"I was so stunned, I couldn’t even process what he said to me, and our friends just stared at me, blinking."
"He’s a redneck, so he's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years, but this just seems to take the cake, as it was the first time it was directed at me."
"When he stepped out, I told my husband he needed to speak to him, and that the comment wasn’t okay."
"I went to change clothes and decided to never ever wear that shirt again."
"When I brought it up to my husband, he said he didn't hear the comment at first, but then he laughed when I told him what he said. He's always laughed when he feels awkward and has always had a hard time standing up to his parents in any capacity."
"When he and my father-in-law spoke, my FIL just said, 'I shouldn’t have said that to her, I know how she can be,' which just feels even more like I’m just being dramatic."
"Since then, I think my husband just wants me to drop it and move on, truthfully."
The OP wasn't sure what to do after what happened.
"This genuinely ruined my entire night. Am I just too sensitive, or was this an inappropriate thing to say?"
"There's also been no apology since then. This happened on Thursday, and then my father-in-law came by again on Friday with flowers to wish me a happy Mother's Day before Mother's Day Sunday."
"I think that was his way of trying to just breeze past the awkwardness. He's never gotten me a gift the whole seven years I've known him, so the flowers were odd. But I still feel really uncomfortable."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that her father-in-law's comments were rude and just plain creepy.
"NOR at all. That was really rude of him. Anyone would be offended." - Bookbringer
"NOR. That’s firmly in the category of what should be an 'inside thought,' and we should learn what those are at a much younger age than this guy is."
"F**king h**l, this is an absolutely mental thing to say out loud, let alone to your daughter-in-law." - Electronic-Fennel828
"FIL is an AH. I love that you think his being a redneck excuses it, but d**n. Even rednecks should know better than to speak that way to their son's wife."
"What does your husband have to say? Does he understand how breath-takingly rude his father was, or is he Team 'That's Just How He Is'?"
"I'd go very low contact with the old perv. NOR, he put you in an uncomfortable position with his crude remark. Is he married? I'd tell the MIL. I'd tell the whole family. Yes, it's embarrassing, but he is the one who should be embarrassed. Don't accept his non-apology." - Top-Bit85
"Maybe I’m desensitized after having large breasts since I was 13 (I’m 28 now), but I let out a little snort based on how immature of a joke it was. I’d simply tell FIL, 'Yes, I know, my boobs are big,' and move on."
"That said, I would never make such a comment about another person's body. Just because I'm technically fine with it doesn't mean I assume anyone else is!"
"Not everyone is the same, and if OP felt uncomfortable, she’s NOR. Her body, her boundaries." - Both_Original2094
"I’m sorry. That’s upsetting. My father is like this with his father. Even if it’s very offensive comments, he’s uncomfortable and has problems confronting him. It sounds like your husband isn’t going to have a talk with him, which is hurtful."
"I would explain to your husband how uncomfortable the situation was for you and that it’s a serious matter, especially if it happens again. And if he still tries to brush it off, then I would tell him you no longer want your FIL coming to your home."
"It’s your life, too, and he’s not the one being hurt here, you are." - w_coastultraviolence
Others were specifically angry about the tactics the father-in-law used to try to get out of trouble.
"Seriously? Saying 'I know how she can be' is a classic way to blame the victim for having boundaries. It’s your birthday, not a Hooters convention. What a creep. If he can’t look at the baby without checking out your breast, he shouldn't be invited to the house." - Specific_Parsnip3264
"'I know how she can be' is so f**ked up. He's the one being a disgusting person. You need to shine up your husband's spine to properly call him out at the time next time, because there will be a next time." - dancepantz
"The bit that pisses me off the most is, 'I know how she can be,' which is his way of making it her problem that she doesn't like her FiL sexualising her in front of her friends." - Outside-Partait-8935
"The 'joke' comment is gross, but that follow-up comment is infuriating. NOR, OP. But this guy will be in your life for a while, so firmly & calmly shutting this stuff down is completely appropriate."
"I'd wear the d**n shirt again to the next family function and look him right in the eyes next time!" - RationalFish
"When we let things like this slide for others, it's not long before it ends up on our doorstep, and of course, nobody says anything because keeping the peace is the norm. It doesn't have to be getting into their face and yelling abuse back. Just a comment such as, 'Well, that's super tacky to say,' or asking them why they'd say that." - Kattnapped
"The OP said, 'He's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years... but this is the first time it was directed to me.'"
"Normalise calling stuff out when they are talking about others, and they won't feel so comfortable saying it to you."
"It's a gross thing for him to say, but I guess him buying you flowers is his way of saying sorry."
"Sounds like you are in the situation of a lot of new mothers, where you suddenly realise this stuff matters because you want better influences for your child, and better support for yourself. NOR." - Jumpy-Jello-
Now, about that shirt...
"Please re-think your decision to never wear the cute shirt again, girl!! It's something that you liked very much because it made you feel good about yourself. Don't let some backwoods id**t ruin that for you."
"Wear that shirt till it's worn out and can't be worn anymore!! You should be able to feel good about yourself in whatever you like to wear."
"Your husband should have immediately checked his father, not waited until he was told to do so after his father left the room. In front of everyone there, your husband should have told his father not to ever speak about you or to you in that kind of manner, and if his father doesn't like it, he knows where the door is."
"Hubby should have called him out for his response as well. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were not the problem; his dad was. This comes down to your husband needing to protect his wife, and he didn't do that." - Lynzo141982
"If he is a redneck, like you said, he won't outright apologize, but flowers are his way of saying sorry."
"I hope he won't say anything again, or else you can expect a nicely tended garden for at least a year."
"About your top, I hope you can wear it again. It takes a lot to feel cute, being a new mum."
"If not, get some fabric dye, dye the top a different color, and embroider a flower on it. This makes the top new, different, and every time you wear it, you can use the mantra ... I'm cute, I don't care what anyone says."
"You've got this!!" - No_Kangaroo_6637
Even if the father-in-law was joking and meant no harm, this is one of those situations where he needs to admit that his joke did not land well, he did cause harm, and he needs to apologize. Just because some people enjoy joking in that manner does not mean that everyone will be comfortable with it, and it's important to respect everyone's boundaries and zones of comfort.