CW: Suicide
Squabbling over money and belongings after a person's death is an awful experience.
It makes the grieving process that much more difficult.
Rarely does everyone behave in the right way.
Ugly things get said and feelings get hurt.
But often it can be unavoidable.
Redditor CharacterQuality5429 wanted to discuss her experience and get feedback, so she came to the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subreddit.
She asked:
"WIBTA if I don't 'share' the inheritance that I received from a friend with her daughter?"
The Original Poster (OP) explained:
"I (F[emale] 32) recently came into an inheritance when my neighbor and close friend, Valorie (F 68), died."
"I met Valorie when I moved into my condo in 2018 and she became my next door neighbor."
"Our places are on the top floor and have almost connecting balconies."
"We used to spend every Saturday morning outside taking care of our plant babies and chatting."
"I had learned that Valorie had been a widow since she was 55."
"I got the impression that she had married young and never had a true chance to learn who she was until after Garry had died."
"I had always thought that Valorie was alone in the world."
"Turns out that Valorie had had one child, a daughter, Sam (F 44)."
"However, they had been estranged since the early 2000s."
"The story that Valorie told me was that Sam had come out as gay when she was just out of high school."
"That did not sit well with Garry."
"He told Sam that she was no longer his daughter and kicked her out; telling her to never contact them or come home again."
"The whole situation broke Valorie's heart and it was her biggest regret in life."
"She told me that she had always wished she had tried to fight for Sam, but in the moment she was so shocked that she watched the whole thing happen without saying a word."
"When I had first heard that story, I asked if she had ever tried to reach out."
"Valorie told me that she hadn't because she didn't know how to even try."
"So I did some internet sleuthing and found Sam on Facebook."
"It turns out that Sam had managed to build a good life for herself."
"I helped Valorie draft a heartfelt message to Sam."
"Valorie apologized for everything and told Sam how much her perspectives had changed over the years. "
"Valorie also asked if they could try and build a new relationship."
"We sent the message and saw that Sam had seen and maybe read the message, but Sam never responded."
"About a month ago, I got home from work to find Valorie had passed away on her balcony."
"She had suffered an embolism."
"I sent the link to her obituary and memorial page to Sam."
"I didn't see Sam at the funeral."
"There is a lawyer handling all of Valorie's affairs."
"I thought that I would simply grieve the loss of my friend and eventually would have a new neighbor."
"I never expected me to be the only person who Valorie mentioned in her will."
"Let alone to have been left everything."
"A few days ago Sam messaged me."
"She was upset and demanded that I give her Valorie's things."
"Claiming that I took advantage of an old widow."
"I was upset when I first read Sam's message and thought, 'Who does she think she is? She hasn't spoken to Valorie in literal decades and never responded when Valorie tried to reach out. Now Valorie is her mother and that entitles her to Valorie's stuff?'"
"Now I wonder if I should do something for Sam."
"I go back and forth about what Valorie would want me to."
"Valorie knew where Sam was, so she could have included Sam somehow."
"The lawyer I talked to said that the inheritance is completely mine and that Sam has no claim, but should I give Sam something?"
The OP was left to wonder:
"AITA?"
Redditors shared their thoughts on this matter and weighed some options to the question AITA:
- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA – You're The A**hole
- NAH – No A**holes Here
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
Many Redditors declared OP was NOT the A**hole.
"There's always three sides to every story."
Side A, Side B, and the truth in the middle."
"You don't know what happened between the two of them, not really."
"So, I'd be very careful of villifying anyone."
"I had a friend who was kicked out and whose mom cut contact because they came out as gay."
"Their mom acted like their child was the one who abandoned and mistreated them and played the victim to anyone who would listen."
"It's not always so simple when family doesn't come around."
"I don't think you need to give up any cash."
"But I WOULD offer her pictures and mementos in the house that she may like."
"Not everything, mind you, but a few things that might remind her of her mom, or pictures that she'd like (if there are any). NTA." ~ TheSciFiGuy80
"NTA, and I think this is the right of it."
"If Sam is interested in something of her mother's as a keepsake or momento, then that's a discussion to have."
"If Sam is only interested in a financial inheritance, that tells you what you need to know."
"Sam might have valid reasons to be no contact with her mother."
"Valorie could have been looking at her own history with very rose coloured glasses."
"But in a very real sense, you have no claim on a person you completely cut ties with, for better or for worse, and so Sam has no claims on her mom." ~ rockology_adam
"NTA. I found myself in a similar situation a year ago."
"My then partner of 12 years took his life."
"Unbeknownst to me, I was made his beneficiary to a small insurance settlement."
"I immediately reached out to his family to get info on his 2 minor daughters."
"Was going to give them both some money for college."
"Without knowing why I was contacting his family (the mother and his sister), they were horrible to me."
"Called me every name in the book."
"They actually had a memorial service for him and 'forgot' to tell me. "
"Nevermind that I supported this man and his daughters financially for years."
"After they hung up on me for the 90th time, I'd had enough."
"I kept every penny."
"And I still don't feel bad." ~ Tall_Support_801
"I agree, I can't believe I had to scroll this far to find it."
"If Gary was the issue, why didn't she try to find Sam right after he passed away?"
"Why didn't she include her in the will as a final gesture of goodwill?"
"OP, I think your heart was in the right place, but the issues with her daughter were likely significantly deeper than she told you."
"The version of your friend you knew was far from the full truth."
"NTA, but I feel awful for Sam." ~ alchemyshaft
"NTA, because you don't know this other person so it isn't on you to fix, but dear lord your friend was an awful mother."
"She disowned her child for being gay, and the full extent of her trying to make amends was a Facebook message. C'mon." ~ NandoDeColonoscopy
"NTA. Valorie included only you in her will, not anyone else."
"So basically now it's up to you what you want to do with it."
"The obvious choice should be to call Sam and ask if she wants any personal things that belong to her mother."
"As for money, I don't think so, you should give it to her because Valorie didn't include her in the will even if she could."
"Take legal advice if you need to." ~ GForcePi
"NTA, you don't really know what happened years ago, maybe Valorie wasn't as much an 'innocent bystander' as she claims, but you do know what happened once you reached out and the daughter never tried to make contact."
"You could offer the daughter pictures and other sentimental items, but if she only seems interested in items of value."
"You have your answer." ~ Free_Science_1091
"NTA. Sam read the message, chose to not respond."
"You were Valorie's friend, even helping locate her daughter."
"Grieve your friend, and know you were the person closest to her heart." ~ CheeseMakingMom
"NAH at least no living ones."
"Sam isn't an a**hole for feeling like her mother abandoned her and did too little too late."
"She also isn't an a**hole for feeling doubly betrayed by being cut out of the will, it's like she was abandoned all over again."
"Remember her mother did absolutely nothing while her father disowned her for being gay and continued to do nothing after he died."
"Sending one email does not absolve her from hurting her child for years."
"You're not an a-hole for accepting the inheritance, but I'd at least consider letting Sam have a few of her mother's things." ~ SL8Rgirl
"NTA... technically, but the only reason the daughter didn't inherit anything is because she's gay and her mom abandoned her."
"One facebook message two decades later isn't sh*t for reconciliation."
"It's barely even an attempt."
"So something to consider is how comfortable are you with receiving an inheritance that you only got because the mother was bigoted and abandoned her child for being gay?"
"You might not be TA technically, but it certainly doesn't make you a very good person." ~ SnooChipmunks770
"NTA. Even if she didn't have contact with her daughter, she could have still left her everything."
"If she didn't have a will, that's what would have happened as Sam is next of kin."
"Also, the fact that Sam knows you got everything and she didn't means that she did some searching into her mom's probate. She wouldn't have been contacted by anyone as she didn't get anything so she had to do the contacting."
"If she is asking for things, then you should probably offer a few items."
"Pictures and possibly mementos from her parents."
"She could regret not responding when her mom reached out."
"But make sure to discuss what kind of liability that would open you up to."
"She could be fishing to get you to hand over something in order to sue the estate to get the rest."
"People do some crazy stuff."
"But as someone who has lost a parent, it's not crazy to think she might want something from her parents." ~ Rad_kerr
"NTA. Your lawyer is correct."
"Sam couldn't bother to answer her mother's plea to start again, and she didn't even show up for her mother's funeral."
"She's now demanding everything her mom left to you."
"She had a chance to reconcile and blew it off."
"She deserves none of the inheritance."
"It's yours to do with as you wish." ~ Alicat52
"NTA... but after the estate has been settled, you might offer Sam whatever mementos she would like to have."
"You're not going to take over Valerie's furniture, household stuff, and other things anyway, and if it means something to Sam, let her have her pick. Jewelry?"
"If she picks a diamond bracelet, why would you refuse her?"
"You didn't expect to inherit from Valerie so you wouldn't miss it."
"But after the estate has been settled."
"If you do it before then, all kinds of legal issues might arise."
"And run it by your lawyer so that a suitable offer can be made without landing you in lawsuits about undue influence and such."
"Legally, the daughter isn't entitled to anything."
"But humanly, I feel for her."
"Even if she takes her mother's precious stuff and sells it immediately, that's her final goodbye to her parents." ~ SpiritedLettuce6900
"NTA, though I wish you'd made it clearer who Garry was."
"The inheritance is rightfully yours, but giving her some sort of memento, maybe old pictures or a piece of clothing, would be a kindness."
"Sam was out of line to make demands and accuse you of things, but maybe cut her some slack, she was thrown out of her family and in pain that will now never be resolved."
"People in pain often lash out inappropriately." ~ MarionberryPlus8474
"NAH. But you've only considered one side of the argument, and even that didn't paint your friend in a good light."
"You didn't expect this inheritance, so it's just a bonus. Why not share it with someone who was obviously treated very, very badly by her mother?" ~ Limp_Buy_4016
"NTA. The daughter's contact seemed to come after she discovered she wasn't about to inherit her mother's estate."
"Whatever the rights and wrongs of events a quarter century ago, you were there for the mother, and I suspect she saw you as a substitute daughter and treated you as such in her will."
"Reddit - being Reddit - will likely advise you to hand over not just everything of your neighbors but also your own house and all your possessions in penance for being friends with Valerie who in their opinion is undoubtedly evil incarnate."
"Those giving such advice would be unlikely to follow it were they in your position."
"Nothing was stopping Valerie from leaving everything to her daughter."
"She didn't."
"I'd offer the daughter personal mementos and keepsakes but nothing more." ~ Globetrotting_Oldie
"NTA. Regardless of the past, Sam suddenly showing up when there's an inheritance points heavily to her not giving a s**t about her mother, just getting some free cash."
"Claiming you 'took advantage of an old widow' is just trying to put you on the defensive and pay up to prove you didn't."
"If she wants anything other than personal items and mementos, I'd tell her no."
"Valerie obviously left the choice up to you, so it's your call if you want to give her money just because she demands it." ~ ColdAndGrumpy
"NTA. If she wanted to leave her child something, she would have."
"Simple as that." ~ your-mom04605
"NTA. She ignored overtures of reconciliation, but as soon as her mother passed suddenly, she needed her stuff?"
"Ignore her like she did you." ~ GalOfThunder
"NTA, but what exactly are you thinking of giving her?"
"I doubt that there are any remaining mementos of the happy childhood she probably didn't have." ~ Brother-Cane
OP gave an update:
"Thank you to everyone who has commented and gave me the outside perspective that I needed."
"I'm shocked at the volume of people who have reacted to this."
"I was really only hoping to have a handful of responses to help me think."
"I do want to clarify some things that I wasn't able to in the original post due to the character limits."
"I first want to address the timeline of events..."
"Sam was kicked out in the early 2000s."
"I think it was in 2002."
"Garry died in 2011."
"Valorie sold the 'family home' and downsized to her condo in 2013, because the house was too big for just her."
"I moved into my condo in 2018."
"I learned about Sam, Valorie wrote the letter, and we sent it to Sam in 2022."
"Valorie retired and had her will and estate set up at the end of 2023."
"Valorie died on January 23, 2025."
"The funeral was on January 31, 2025."
"I messaged Sam as soon as the funeral arrangements were finalized."
"Sam messaged me this past Sunday on February 23, 2025."
"To clarify some questions that people had about the estate..."
"It's currently in the formal probate process.'
"Valorie was a legal secretary for a family law office, and the lawyer she worked with specialized in estate law."
"She had a full carrier there, and as part of her retirement package, that lawyer helped her set up her will and take care of the estate."
"This is the lawyer who told me that everything is being done by the book, that everything will be fully settled in a few months, and that all of Valorie's wishes are being carried out to the letter."
"I have taken Reddit's advice and will be speaking to a different lawyer about both my legal interests in the estate and how to communicate with Sam."
"I still haven't responded to her, because I haven't been sure how.'
"Her initial message was extremely harsh and attacking, and that is what triggered that first emotional and protective response in me."
"I'm trying to take Reddit's advice and be empathetic to Sam's situation."
"However, that is challenging because Sam has continued to send me a few additional messages demanding that I respond and calling me a 'heartless b**ch' and 'a homophobic bigot' among other things."
"I'm not going to respond until after I've talked to that lawyer and can do it in the right way."
"I do think that Reddit is right and that if Sam wants any sentimental items, she should have them because they might help her healing."
"I do want to be clear that the estate is not very big and is very simple."
"All that Valorie had was her condo and her car. "
"That car was more valuable to her than it is on the market."
"It's a 2014 model of a daily-driver."
"I hold the spare key to Valerie's condo and have been in to clear out the kitchen and to take care of her plant babies because I can't bear to see them die too."
"It's been really strange being in that space without her."
"I've been given permission to start cleaning out the condo, but not to get rid of anything."
"I'm going to spend this weekend going through her things and organizing them into boxes."
"I don't know what type of sentimental items that I'll find, because Valorie doesn't have any family photos on display in her place."
"There are no photos of Sam and no photos of Garry; not even wedding photos."
"I can't speak to the Valorie who Sam knew."
"I do know that in her younger years Valorie was an active member of the LDS church, but that she had stopped being religious by the time that I knew her."
"The Valorie who I knew was by no means a bigot."
"I knew her as a kind, loving, and accepting person."
"She knew that I'm bi and never judged me for it."
"She has a Pride flag hanging on her balcony, and she used to attend Pride parades as one of those ally moms/grandmas who would hug and be supportive to the LGBTQ+ youth who had no one."
"I knew her as someone who was trying to make amends to the universe."
"When I first heard the story about Sam, I was shocked because that just didn't line up with the Valorie that I knew."
"Valorie did have her own Facebook account and knew how to use it, but Sam was not easy to find."
"It took me a few months to track her down."
"We used Facebook Messenger because that was our only means of contacting Sam."
"The 'message' was a 4-5 page letter where Valorie told Sam everything and completely shared her soul."
"Valorie only reached out once because, 'Sam was so much like her father and I don't want to push her or hurt her further by pestering. I've told her everything I can until she responds.'"
"The only direct communication that I've had with Sam was the Facebook messages I sent her about Valorie's death."
"I think that covered everyone's questions."
"Thank you all for providing me with new perspectives; it's been helpful."
"There's been interest in all of this, so if people want any further updates after probate, I'll try and provide them."
That is a lot to digest, OP.
It seems like Valerie tried to make amends to the best of her abilities.
You are caught in the middle, which is never fun.
But it sounds like you have formulated a good plan.
Don't feel bad about keeping much of what has been left to you.
It was Valerie's wish.
Good luck!
If you or someone you know is struggling, you can contact the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 988.
To find help outside the United States, the International Association for Suicide Prevention has resources available at https://www.iasp.info/resources/Crisis_Centres/















Woman Asks If It's Wrong To Hold Grudge After Mom Told Her When She 8 Years Old That She Wished She'd Aborted Her
While some people view having and raising children as the greatest blessing, some parents hold their children's existence against them for their entire lives.
And when they feel that way about their children, they're unfortunately typically pretty honest about it, cringed the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor heavelymango knew from the time she was young that her mother did not really like her and significantly favored her sister.
But when her mother told her at the age of eight that she wished she had aborted her, the Original Poster (OP) held on to that grudge for years after the fact.
She asked the sub:
The OP had a grudge against her mother.
"I (22 Female) have been holding onto a grudge due to something my mom told me when I was roughly eight or nine years old."
"Growing up, I was a rebellious kid and always felt as if my mom favored my older sister. My sister would always get whatever she wanted."
"I know she was born with Down syndrome and always needed more attention and care, but if my sister wanted my tablet, for example, she would have it for the whole day while mine was limited to 30 minutes so she could have it."
"As a kid, I lashed out more because of this. She could take all of my things, but I could never use hers."
During a heated moment, the OP's mother said something unforgivable.
"Eventually, this led to an argument with my mom. I don't recall the whole thing, but it was related to my sister and how I felt my mom didn't care about me or give me the same amount of attention."
"The fight got heated, and I probably told my mom that I hated my sister and her."
"I remember she said back, 'I never wanted you from the start. I knew I should've aborted you when I had the chance.'"
" I didn't know what aborted meant at the time, and I remember I looked it up, and it made me cry. I never forgot it, and it lingers in my mind whenever I am home."
The OP's mother pressured her to "let it go" and move on.
"Even growing up, I still brought it up, and she would get mad, saying I need to let it go and how I'm stubborn for not just forgetting what she said."
"There was even a time in high school when she took me to a therapist, and she complained about how I never dropped what she said."
"She says I need to move on from it because it has affected my relationship with her, and she wants to fix it."
"I know I'm older now and it was so long ago, but it still hurts, and I feel like it's made me not want to have her in my life in the future, and I have told this to her."
"How I don't want her in my life once I move out, get married, or have my own kids."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that this sounded like a core memory more than a grudge.
"The axe forgets. The tree remembers."
"It sounds less like you're holding a grudge and more that this is a formative, core memory for you."
"It won't stop being a core memory (unless maybe with the help of a lot of therapy). Has your mom ever apologized for saying that? Because you don't have to forget to forgive, but if she's not remorseful for saying that terrible thing to her young child (not just remorseful that you remember it), then she probably needs therapy (or is a narcissist/sociopath/similar)."
"You are certainly not obligated to 'get over it.'" - Hot-Can3615
"This is not a 'grudge'; it is pain that is still felt to such a degree. If she said it, then she was thinking it. She'll probably never apologize, but that doesn't mean your pain is or was invalid." - Fast_Register_9480
"NOR. This kind of thing needs a real apology. Like she needs to acknowledge the damage and genuinely care about it. Brushing it off won’t make it go away." - TentacleWolverine
"NOR. Did she really want to fix things? She basically just told you to get over it from the start instead of giving you a sincere apology."
"That isn't working on anything. She wants you to get over it so she can pretend that she never said it, so she doesn't have to feel bad about what she did. It doesn't sound like she cares much about how you feel."
"She just doesn't want to deal with it. For that reason, I would still have issues with what she said." - Chemical-Ad6809
"If your relationship with your mother is being affected by the actions of your mother, your mother is responsible for fixing it."
"You should know you probably aren't ever going to get closure, but you don't have to swallow it down. It helps to be the person you needed when you were younger out loud to yourself, but especially to others."
"For example: My name is Liz, and my mom told me to go ahead and do it already and save us all the heartache when I finally had the courage to tell her about how much I've been struggling with self-harm and suicidal ideation. I'm never going to forgive her for that, and we have never been close as a result of her actions."
"You aren't holding onto a grudge; you have a core memory of your mother distilling her feelings into a world-shattering sentence."
"You did not have a secure attachment before and can't have one now because of the deep trauma. You do not apologize for being stabbed."
"Find another therapist. I mean it. Someone who cares about your well-being wouldn't force you to apologize for being verbally abused as a child. I'm 29 now, and I lived through it. I still struggle with suicidal ideation daily, but once I stopped relying on my mom and unstable sources for support, my life got better immediately."
"You want things for comfort and familiarity. Don't let your mom or your therapist gaslight you into crossing a boundary."
"It might help to ask for a written five-part apology from your mom. 1. Acknowledge what you did 2. Say why it was wrong 3. Promise not to do it again 4. Ask how to make amends. 5. Share your feelings at this time if there's anything you'd like to say."
"My mom can be a good person and a bad mom and role model. Being in your own company is so much better than poor company." - PotLuckyPodcast
Others hoped the OP would go no contact with her mother sooner rather than later.
"NOR. It’s emotional abuse. And you do not owe her closeness after that, especially as she refuses to be accountable for that and try to make it up to you."
"She knows you have her number, and she can’t forgive you for knowing what a colloidal b***h she is."
"It’s unlikely that will change; it will at least be turned back on you with her the victim."
"Stop expecting her to apologize. If she doesn’t pay your bills, ghost her." - SnooCheesecakes2723
"My mom said something similar. My brother and I were adopted, and when I was a teen, in front of a church lady, she said, 'We didn't even really want you, but the people didn't want to split y'all up, so we just took you, too.'"
"Me and the church lady were shook. When I say my falbbers were ghasted. Like huh? She didn't remember saying that when I brought it up years after the fact."
"I also got grounded two times for two separate nine weeks (for C's on my report card) and a three and a half to four months (for smoking at 16 and getting caught because she liked to just pop up out of nowhere), and we just had a talk about that, and she didn't even remember."
"She said, 'No, I didn't. I never grounded you for that long,' and when I gave my rebuttal, she said, 'Well, if I did, it definitely wasn't for no nine weeks or months,' and this started because she was praising me for reading so much and liking books. I said, 'Well, when you were grounded like me, that's all I could do (no TV, no friends outside of school, no music, nothing but my room and books)."
"There's a reason I only call or answer her calls once or twice every few weeks. And I only call to get food, really..." - ManicalMoe
"‘Fine, I'm sorry’ is not an apology."
"Whilst I’m sure it was said in anger, most things said in anger have a grain of truth. There are also some things that no half-decent parent ever says to their children, no matter how angry they are, and this is one of them! It also sounds like she has made repeated similar comments of not wanting you as her child."
"I understand her eldest had a disability, but this is no excuse for neglecting and emotionally abusing her younger child. Lots of families deal with a child with additional needs whilst still managing to prioritise their other kids. Children with Down syndrome are capable of understanding ‘that’s your sister's, not yours; give it back’ !! It sounds like your mum has mental health issues?"
"Do you have a present father or other family you can turn to?"
"Protect your peace. Your mum has hurt you time and time again, honestly, for no real gain other than momentarily satisfying her anger. You owe this woman nothing." - Background_Term9810
"I went through something similar. When I was a little girl, my mother used to make comments that implied she didn't want me, though it was never that explicit. 'I only had you because your brother wanted a sister,' and 'My figure never recovered after you; after your brother, it did.'"
"Each comment stayed with me, but I never addressed it with her. I tried to move on and leave it in the past. She did a lot of horrible things throughout my life, but her behavior was always ignored because that's the precedent my dad set, where she can do essentially whatever she wants."
"A few months ago, she came to see me because I was desperate for help and sick. Instead of helping, she made my life so much worse. I won't go into details. At one point, I could no longer keep it inside, and I told her that she is a narcissist, to which she responded with, 'It would have been better if I had never had you.'"
"In some ways, it felt really good to hear her come out and say it. It felt good to hear the truth I've always known."
"I don't know what you should do, but I've chosen to not forgive."
"Every time I forgave, I just let her know that she can get away with whatever horrible things she had done. Her apologies were never real apologies. She always found ways to blame me or others for whatever she had done."
"And I'm truly just done with it. As sad as it is to not have a mom, it's sadder to pretend that you have one when in reality you don't... quite the opposite, if anything." - Neos_Mom
"So, OP, what will hurt more: keeping her and the grudge in your life or making a break and going low or no contact with her?"
"Frankly, we've no idea of what she might have been dealing with at the time, but regardless, what she said was said only to cause pain and suffering. 'Sorry' doesn't magic that intent away."
"Me, I think spending time alone or with friends or in therapy away from her might be what you need here. You might come to some sort of acceptance, but if this is something that's just going to keep coming between you, then stop trying to have that relationship." - Tal_Tos_72
After the OP received feedback, she shared a few clarifications from her original post.
"I wanted to clear some things up, take accountability where it's due, and provide some much-needed context from many people commenting the same questions."
"I want to be completely honest. We had many arguments, and I was a rebellious kid. I acted out and argued with my mom."
"I don't want to give off the impression that I was an entirely innocent kid who never did anything wrong and my mom just snapped out of nowhere. We both said hateful and hurtful things to each other during our fights."
"Growing up, the only way she would accept an apology was if I got on my knees and begged her for forgiveness. If I ever asked her to apologize to me, she would say, 'I have nothing to apologize for; you should be the one begging for my forgiveness.'"
The OP had a lot of physical memories, too.
"Things also would turn into physical arguments, not just verbal ones."
"There were times when she would get so angry she would get physical. Like yanking me by my hair, twisting my arms, or throwing things at me (like remotes, a bug spray can, or a radio)."
"When she yanked my hair, I would fight back just to get her to let me go, and she would scream that I was trying to kill her and she would get me arrested. When she twisted my arm, and I begged her to stop because it felt like it was going to break, she would say she hoped it did."
"When she threw objects at me, she would say she wished they would hit my face."
"I remember in middle school, during an argument, she said she wished she could break my face and that she hated it because I look like my dad. I won’t lie, whenever she said things like that, I would say nasty comments about how she chose to have him put us in her."
While the OP wasn't financially ready to move out yet, she hoped to as soon as possible.
"Why haven't I moved out yet? The main reason I haven't been able to move out is financial."
"I wasn't making enough to support myself without worrying about whether I’d end up having to crawl back home."
"Thankfully, I have recently found a better-paying job. My plan is to move out between mid-to-late October, or early November at the latest."
"The only reason I can't leave this exact second is because I have a few legal/administrative things to get cleared up so I’m completely untied from my mom, which will take a few weeks."
The OP also had proof that her mother liked her sister better.
"Has my mom ever admitted to favoring my sister? Yes."
"In arguments, she has explicitly told me that she doesn't see me as her legitimate daughter, and that she adored my sister more and forever will. She has also called me a 'monster,' told me there is a certain type of evil inside of me, and said she was afraid I would be just like my dad and try to harm them."
"She would even tell me that she was telling family and friends these things about me, but then later claim she 'just said it in the moment' and wouldn't be crazy enough to actually tell people that."
"Because I was so confused growing up and didn't know if she was lying or telling the truth, I started avoiding our family when they came over."
"Naturally, that just made things worse because she would get mad at me for avoiding them (even now as an adult), completely ignoring the fact that she was the one who lied about what she told them."
Unfortunately, the OP didn't have support from her father.
"What about my dad? My dad is not in my life."
"He was around sporadically, but never as a stable parent. My parents separated before I was born and divorced when I was two or three."
"Growing up, it was just constant back-and-forth toxicity, with him telling me how toxic my mother was, and her telling me the same about him."
"He would mostly only come over to see my sister, and often used me to care for her if he wanted to take her out to eat. Ultimately, my dad didn't care about anyone else other than my sister (and his drugs)."
"I hope this can clear some questions on the original post. I know I didn't provide many details as I originally should have. I honestly didn't want to post something too long, and I honestly did not expect it to be noticed."
"Thank you all for taking time to talk to me and share your thoughts."
The subReddit fully sided with the OP, pointing out that no matter how heated the moment was, it would never excuse the terrible things the OP's mother had said to her.
If the OP's mother really wanted a relationship with her, she'd drop the defensiveness and demands, offer a genuine apology, and work hard to be better for both of her children.
That takes a very rare kind of person to pull off, and it didn't sound like the OP's mother had that in her.
If you or someone you know is struggling, you can contact the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 988.
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