When people cheat romantically, the effects can be far-reaching and go on forever.
It's especially problematic when families are broken up over it.
Children learn from the behavior of adults.
Often, in these situations, adults will tend to forget that fact.
And the consequences will come back around.
Redditor New_Garden_2234 wanted to discuss his experience and get some feedback. So naturally, he came to visit the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subReddit.
He asked:
"AITA for not offering support to my dad's wife and laughing at her when she asked for it?"
The Original Poster (OP) explained:
"My dad's wife found out six weeks ago that he's been cheating on her for years."
"They have three kids together, and she had no idea he was cheating."
"His wife, who I'll call Anne for this post, was my dad's affair partner when he was married to my mom."
"I was like 8 when we found out and how that happened was dad brought Anne over to pick up his stuff because he wanted to move in with her."
"Neither of them gave a s**t that I was there."
"A few weeks later, my mom died (car accident), and I moved in with my dad and Anne, but I didn't look at either of them in a positive light."
"I still don't, and I'm 17 now."
"Anne and I butted heads a lot over the years."
"She would talk about deserving more respect, and I told her she was just the lady my dad cheated on mom with, and she'd never be more than that in my eyes."
"I told her I didn't respect her as a person or as a supposed family member."
"Dad tried to get me to see him more positively at first, but when he realized I'd ask the big questions like why he did that to my mom and me, he stopped trying."
"I always assumed he found a new mistress but didn't have proof until a year and a half ago when I saw him with another woman."
"I said nothing, and I carried on waiting for the day she found out."
"There were times I wanted to rub it into her face so bad, but I didn't."
"I was laughing at her behind her back, and I'll admit that."
"When Anne found out, she kicked Dad out, and I moved out with him."
"This was seen as a controversial choice because Anne wanted me to stay."
"And since everything went down Anne has wanted me to visit her and wanted me to be with her and Dad's kids."
"I'm not close to the kids and don't really care about having a relationship with them."
"Last week, Dad brought me by Anne's place to pick up more of his/our stuff."
"Anne's family was there, and Anne and her family were scolding me for choosing Dad over Anne and saying Anne deserved my support."
"They couldn't believe I'd pick Dad's side over hers."
"I said I picked neither side."
"But Anne means nothing to me, so I'm not going to do sh*t for her."
"Anne's mom told me Anne was a victim."
"I told them she cheated with a married man and shouldn't be shocked that he'd do the same to her, because she's nothing special."
"They kept engaging with me, and my Dad was taking his sweet a** time."
"Anne decided to talk to me 1:1 and asked me to stand by her and support her and help her give the kids a good life and show we're still a family."
"I laughed in her face."
"Anne started to cry."
"Her family asked her about it, and she told them I'd laughed."
"They called me disgusting and cruel and said I should be ashamed of treating someone in my family that way."
"Anne's sister sent me a few DMs before I locked down my socials, but she said I should apologize to Anne and be there for her now to make up for my reaction to her."
"She told me to be a better man and not some pathetic child who blames the woman for stuff."
The OP was left to wonder:
"So AITA?"
Redditors shared their thoughts on this matter and weighed some options to the question AITA:
- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA – You're The A**hole
- NAH – No A**holes Here
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
Many Redditors declared OP was NOT the A**hole.
"Well, you know the old saying, when a man marries his mistress, he opens up a vacancy 🤷 It's crazy how affair partners act so shocked that a cheater cheats."
"If he cheated to be with you, then he'll cheat on you."
"You ain't special."
"NTA, I dunno why she was so desperate for your support when you've been obvious in your dislike of her for years."
"It's like touching a hot stove and being shocked and upset when it burns you." ~ SkulledDownunda
"NTA, Everyone sucks here but you."
You're not behaving like a sociopath."
"You're behaving like someone who is very hurt and frustrated and shouldn't be put in the middle of this situation."
"I'm very sorry for your father's affairs and the loss of your mother."
"I can't imagine how hard it was adjusting to everything all in one go."
"I'm a great deal older than you, and I think I would have said something similar to my stepmother had I been in your situation, even though it's cruel."
"I'm surprised she expected empathy when you've always made it clear you don't like her or her choices."
"I'm sorry for her children's pain, but I have limited sympathy for someone who is reaping what she has sowed."
"Her family should be leaving you alone, and they're behaving unfairly."
"If it's an option for you, I think therapy might be really helpful."
"Sometimes you have to try a couple until you find the right fit, but it can really help."
"I also highly recommend the book Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents by Lindsay C Gibson, you can often download it as a free P[ortable] D[ocument] F[ormat]."
"It will help you understand your father and stepmother's behavior and how that affects your feelings and actions."
"You are a good person in a bad situation."
"You're very young, and it's unfair to label you as sociopathic or anything else when you've got a lot of stuff to deal with."
"Plus, you can't diagnose anyone over a post online, especially not at your age."
"Things can get better. You can feel safe and happy, and it will happen."
"Take one day at a time, talk to friends. If it's an option, take up a hobby or hobbies."
"It might help express yourself through art or writing to help you process your feelings."
"Exercise, even just walking, might be a good way to help you process emotions and get out some frustrations." ~ Rainbow_dreaming
"NTA. I don't get the sociopath comments."
"Relishing her pain is a bit cruel... but her and her family expecting you to stand by her and continue living with her is insane."
"That, I would laugh at myself."
"I bet you were going to cut them both off at 18 anyway." ~ Samarkand457
"NTA. How exactly does she expect a 17-year-old to give her kids a good life?"
"With free babysitting?"
"I'm guessing she never adopted you so legally she has no custodial rights to you, it makes sense that you'd leave with your dad."
"Did your mom have a will?"
"Any chance that there's an inheritance that you'll have access to when you turn 18?"
"Or is there some sort of trust that they've been drawing on that your dad's wife is hoping to still have access to if you stay?" ~ cassowary32
"NTA. There's no more delicious schadenfreude than when an affair partner gets cheated on."
"Her family needs to wake up and realize that you were always going to stick with your biological relative although he is also TA for cheating." ~ C_Majuscula
"What did she expect?"
"Apparently, someone who's cheated on someone else before is 4 times more likely to do it again."
"She should've seen it coming and it's definitely not your fault she didn't, 100% NTA."
"Also, that's such a shi**y thing to go through."
"That's all there is to say. NTA." ~ diminishingpatience
"Oh, this happened to my father."
"He left Mom for Barbara."
'A year later, Barbara cheated on him."
"Mom felt sorry for him and invited him to dinner on Christmas Eve."
"After we kids went to bed, my father went into the long, sad story about Barbara cheating."
"He looked Mom straight in the face and said, 'How can someone say that they love you and then cheat on you?'"
"Mom burst out laughing."
"'I don't know
"He didn't get it, and was hurt that she laughed at him." ~ lisaann03071961
"NTA. You behaved better than I would."
"I'd have massively rubbed it in her face, you were really quite restrained."
"Tell her if she doesn't leave you alone you'll tell the kids."
"After all, you were old enough to discover it at 8, surely hers are around the same age?"
"Maybe that'll get her to leave you alone." ~ HayWhatsCooking
"NTA... you were constant in your dealings with her throughout your time there."
"To me, she got the Karma she deserved for what she did to your mum."
"Your dad is just being your dad and will probably rinse and repeat." ~ th0ughtfull1
"NTA she lost him how she found him, cheaters cheat."
"If he'll cheat with you he'll cheat on you." ~ Churchie-Baby
"NTA. Play stupid games, and win stupid prizes."
"Or a much older axiom, a leopard doesn't change his spots."
"I probably would've even said something like 'Now you know how it feels' but that's just me."
"And since you don't have a blood relationship with her, of course, you'd go with your dad."
'Your dad's a dog, and I hope he doesn't repeat the cycle again, but that's not your business." ~ Evening-Cry-8233
"NTA and bravo she needed a good laughing in the face after what she and your dad did to your mother." ~ Silent-Appearance-78
Well, OP, Reddit is with you.
You have no obligation to these people.
It does sound like you could use some therapy for yourself, though.
You've been through a lot.
Holding it all in can be unhealthy.
Good luck.
















New Mom Irate After Father-In-Law Ruins Her Birthday With 'Vulgar' Comment About Her Breasts
There's nothing quite like the feeling of going through all the work to prepare a fun celebration, just for someone to undo it with an unkind or gross comment.
That feeling just gets worse when it's your birthday, and that comment was made by someone who's supposed to care about you, sympathized the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Rude-Pepper-2389 had recently given birth and decided to have a special birthday celebration to reconnect with her loved ones after becoming a mom.
When her father-in-law stopped by unexpectedly and then made comments about her body, the Original Poster (OP) was left so uncomfortable that it ruined the whole celebration for her.
She asked the sub:
The OP wanted to have a special birthday celebration after her baby was born.
"I currently have a five-month-old and haven’t really been taking care of myself or dressing up since having the baby."
"It’s my (25 Female) birthday, and we were having friends over at our house for a private dinner to celebrate."
"My husband (24 Male) and I have been together since we were 18."
"I decided to put on this new silk shirt I got, which, admittedly, was low-cut, but I felt cute in it and felt comfortable around the friends we were having over."
Everything was fine until the OP's father-in-law (FIL) stopped by unexpectedly.
"My husband's dad decided to stop by on his way home from work."
"I will say, he was likely drunk. He works two hours away and proudly told my husband he's down to only four beers on his drive home each day... so, that's healthy."
"When he came in, I was on the couch with my baby propped up beside me, bottle feeding him. Keep in mind, I am not breastfeeding, so no, my breasts are not any larger right now."
"My husband's dad leaned down to look at the baby and then suddenly shouted, 'D**n, son, she could knock you out with those things in bed! Like cracking two coconuts together.'"
"This was fully and undoubtedly in reference to my breasts."
The OP was shocked by the comment and very uncomfortable.
"It made me deeply uncomfortable and embarrassed."
"I was so stunned, I couldn’t even process what he said to me, and our friends just stared at me, blinking."
"He’s a redneck, so he's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years, but this just seems to take the cake, as it was the first time it was directed at me."
"When he stepped out, I told my husband he needed to speak to him, and that the comment wasn’t okay."
"I went to change clothes and decided to never ever wear that shirt again."
"When I brought it up to my husband, he said he didn't hear the comment at first, but then he laughed when I told him what he said. He's always laughed when he feels awkward and has always had a hard time standing up to his parents in any capacity."
"When he and my father-in-law spoke, my FIL just said, 'I shouldn’t have said that to her, I know how she can be,' which just feels even more like I’m just being dramatic."
"Since then, I think my husband just wants me to drop it and move on, truthfully."
The OP wasn't sure what to do after what happened.
"This genuinely ruined my entire night. Am I just too sensitive, or was this an inappropriate thing to say?"
"There's also been no apology since then. This happened on Thursday, and then my father-in-law came by again on Friday with flowers to wish me a happy Mother's Day before Mother's Day Sunday."
"I think that was his way of trying to just breeze past the awkwardness. He's never gotten me a gift the whole seven years I've known him, so the flowers were odd. But I still feel really uncomfortable."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that her father-in-law's comments were rude and just plain creepy.
"NOR at all. That was really rude of him. Anyone would be offended." - Bookbringer
"NOR. That’s firmly in the category of what should be an 'inside thought,' and we should learn what those are at a much younger age than this guy is."
"F**king h**l, this is an absolutely mental thing to say out loud, let alone to your daughter-in-law." - Electronic-Fennel828
"FIL is an AH. I love that you think his being a redneck excuses it, but d**n. Even rednecks should know better than to speak that way to their son's wife."
"What does your husband have to say? Does he understand how breath-takingly rude his father was, or is he Team 'That's Just How He Is'?"
"I'd go very low contact with the old perv. NOR, he put you in an uncomfortable position with his crude remark. Is he married? I'd tell the MIL. I'd tell the whole family. Yes, it's embarrassing, but he is the one who should be embarrassed. Don't accept his non-apology." - Top-Bit85
"Maybe I’m desensitized after having large breasts since I was 13 (I’m 28 now), but I let out a little snort based on how immature of a joke it was. I’d simply tell FIL, 'Yes, I know, my boobs are big,' and move on."
"That said, I would never make such a comment about another person's body. Just because I'm technically fine with it doesn't mean I assume anyone else is!"
"Not everyone is the same, and if OP felt uncomfortable, she’s NOR. Her body, her boundaries." - Both_Original2094
"I’m sorry. That’s upsetting. My father is like this with his father. Even if it’s very offensive comments, he’s uncomfortable and has problems confronting him. It sounds like your husband isn’t going to have a talk with him, which is hurtful."
"I would explain to your husband how uncomfortable the situation was for you and that it’s a serious matter, especially if it happens again. And if he still tries to brush it off, then I would tell him you no longer want your FIL coming to your home."
"It’s your life, too, and he’s not the one being hurt here, you are." - w_coastultraviolence
Others were specifically angry about the tactics the father-in-law used to try to get out of trouble.
"Seriously? Saying 'I know how she can be' is a classic way to blame the victim for having boundaries. It’s your birthday, not a Hooters convention. What a creep. If he can’t look at the baby without checking out your breast, he shouldn't be invited to the house." - Specific_Parsnip3264
"'I know how she can be' is so f**ked up. He's the one being a disgusting person. You need to shine up your husband's spine to properly call him out at the time next time, because there will be a next time." - dancepantz
"The bit that pisses me off the most is, 'I know how she can be,' which is his way of making it her problem that she doesn't like her FiL sexualising her in front of her friends." - Outside-Partait-8935
"The 'joke' comment is gross, but that follow-up comment is infuriating. NOR, OP. But this guy will be in your life for a while, so firmly & calmly shutting this stuff down is completely appropriate."
"I'd wear the d**n shirt again to the next family function and look him right in the eyes next time!" - RationalFish
"When we let things like this slide for others, it's not long before it ends up on our doorstep, and of course, nobody says anything because keeping the peace is the norm. It doesn't have to be getting into their face and yelling abuse back. Just a comment such as, 'Well, that's super tacky to say,' or asking them why they'd say that." - Kattnapped
"The OP said, 'He's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years... but this is the first time it was directed to me.'"
"Normalise calling stuff out when they are talking about others, and they won't feel so comfortable saying it to you."
"It's a gross thing for him to say, but I guess him buying you flowers is his way of saying sorry."
"Sounds like you are in the situation of a lot of new mothers, where you suddenly realise this stuff matters because you want better influences for your child, and better support for yourself. NOR." - Jumpy-Jello-
Now, about that shirt...
"Please re-think your decision to never wear the cute shirt again, girl!! It's something that you liked very much because it made you feel good about yourself. Don't let some backwoods id**t ruin that for you."
"Wear that shirt till it's worn out and can't be worn anymore!! You should be able to feel good about yourself in whatever you like to wear."
"Your husband should have immediately checked his father, not waited until he was told to do so after his father left the room. In front of everyone there, your husband should have told his father not to ever speak about you or to you in that kind of manner, and if his father doesn't like it, he knows where the door is."
"Hubby should have called him out for his response as well. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were not the problem; his dad was. This comes down to your husband needing to protect his wife, and he didn't do that." - Lynzo141982
"If he is a redneck, like you said, he won't outright apologize, but flowers are his way of saying sorry."
"I hope he won't say anything again, or else you can expect a nicely tended garden for at least a year."
"About your top, I hope you can wear it again. It takes a lot to feel cute, being a new mum."
"If not, get some fabric dye, dye the top a different color, and embroider a flower on it. This makes the top new, different, and every time you wear it, you can use the mantra ... I'm cute, I don't care what anyone says."
"You've got this!!" - No_Kangaroo_6637
Even if the father-in-law was joking and meant no harm, this is one of those situations where he needs to admit that his joke did not land well, he did cause harm, and he needs to apologize. Just because some people enjoy joking in that manner does not mean that everyone will be comfortable with it, and it's important to respect everyone's boundaries and zones of comfort.