Extra help when a new baby arrives is generally welcomed.
But extra criticism? Not so much.
A new mom turned to the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subReddit for feedback after a clash with her mother-in-law.
Possible-Study2746 asked:
"AITA for telling my mother-in-law (MIL) off for her comment regarding my 5-day-old?"
The original poster (OP) explained:
"My husband's mom called to ask how the baby was doing, and he told her that she was good and was currently taking a nap on him. She was extremely supportive during the entire pregnancy and was even there for the birth, so her calls were welcomed."
"She responded by saying that it's not good to let her sleep on us. An annoying comment, but whatever."
"My husband tells her that there's nothing wrong with it, and we love letting her sleep on us. Then she proceeded to say, 'Don't build bad habits with my baby. '"
"That one got to me. Ignoring the 'my baby', I said, 'You can't build habits with a newborn'."
"In a sarcastically cheerful tone, she says, 'Yes, you can, I've raised three children!'. I matched her tone and said, 'Actually, no you can't! It's science!'. Then she hung up."
"After that, she sends me a VERY long message about how she has never been able to tell how I feel about her and how she hopes one day we can be close, which was news to me because I felt closer with her than any of my own family."
"She also said she feels like I don't want to hear anything she has to say when it comes to the baby, and she wants to be able to give advice and make suggestions."
"This was referencing the phone call as well as a couple other things she had suggested previously. I had told her we wouldn't be doing those things because we already looked into it and decided to do something else."
"I responded by telling her I had no idea where all this was coming from, as I felt we already had a close relationship, and I apologized if I ever acted in a way to make her think differently."
"I also said that while I didn't want to invalidate her experience as a mother, I didn't really want advice unless I asked for it. I said I'm glad that what she did worked for her, but all babies are different, and I'm constantly doing research and making decisions based on that."
"I finished off by saying that if I want advice, I will absolutely come to her, and I want her to be a HUGE part of our daughter's life."
She then said that invalidating her experience as a mother was exactly what I was doing, and she was sad that I was being so closed off."
"Our relationship has been rocky ever since, and sometimes I wonder if I should have just kept my mouth shut and just smiled and nodded instead."
"So, AITA?"
The OP summed up their situation.
"Rebutting what my MIL said instead of just letting it go. It probably wasn't a big deal, and maybe I shouldn't have dismissed her advice so quickly."
Redditors weighed in by declaring:
- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA - You're The A**hole
- NAH - No A**holes Here
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
Redditors decided the OP was not the a**hole (NTA).
"NTA. Here's what I told my own MIL: 'It must have been so hard to be a new parent when the only options were advice from others or going to the library and hoping for good information. Then it's finally your turn to be the advice giver, and the internet takes it away. But I have the absolute privilege to have 30 more years of research and easy access to all of it whenever I need. Nobody is saying you were a bad parent, and you absolutely did the best with what you had. I will also be doing the best with what I have, and I'm so privileged for the additional research and accessible knowledge. I'm happy to ask whenever I have questions and tips; potty training comes to mind. But what I need most right now is a non-judgmental listening ear." ~ Elemental_surprise
"Beware that it's not easy to make the switch from parent to grandparent. As a parent, you're the one in control. As a grandparent, you're mostly an observer."
"Probably, when they were a parent, they felt like they didn't know what they were doing. Now here is another young child and this time they DO know what to do, they already raised three kids after all!"
"Now they have experience, but it isn't wanted. They're told their information is outdated, which can feel like an attack on their parenting. They might remember how they struggled as a new parent and want to help their child so they don't feel like that, especially when they see (or imagine) their kid struggling."
"I'm not saying you're wrong. You're right and NTA. But it might help to approach it with some empathy." ~ Quadrantje
"My mom was the MASTER of this switch. She was constantly asking me what I needed, not what she thought I should do."
"Supportive without overstepping."
"Does she make weird mistakes? Of course, we all do. But I never felt that I had to defend myself."
"Same thing with my mother-in-law. She would say, 'You don't have to do this, but this helped me'— love both of them so much." ~ SunkenSaltySiren
"NTA- you had me at her saying 'my baby'... I'm a gen X mom, have recently obtained some grandkids… the audacity…"
"When the parents want advice they ask, when they don't, I STFU. I was not a perfect parent, they won't be either, but they will do their best, and short of something truly harmful like abuse, how they choose to raise their child is just something I get to watch from the sidelines."
"Grandkids are not a 'redo'. They are a gift that we get for surviving parenting (as our granddogs and grandcats)." ~ Senior_Parking6305
The OP provided an update:
"I have one child—she's 11 months old now. The posts from today and yesterday are about stuff from the past. The reason I'm posting now is because this stuff has come up again, and it has resulted in us going no contact with my MIL."
"So to find out if I'm in the wrong for going no contact with her, I'm seeing if I was in the wrong for the things that led up to it. She has a tendency to blow things out of proportion when we tell her she's out of line in any way."
"We had a conversation several months after this, where we agreed to try and build back our relationship. We both explained in detail what goes on inside our heads and why we word things/interpret things the way we do."
"It was productive aside from the fact that she wouldn't apologize for anything. She said she 'is who she is' and had nothing to apologize for."
"She also said again and again how much she loved me, but I feel like if she really cared about me, then she would feel bad for hurting me. Or maybe she would have never sent such a long message about her feelings when I was a brand new mother."
"My MIL stayed with us the day we brought my daughter home. One of her suggestions was to give her a pacifier so she'd stop crying."
"I was trying to breastfeed and explained that I didn't want to give her a pacifier so early because I didn't want her to get nipple confusion. That was the end of the conversation, but I found out later that after that, she pulled my husband aside to tell him that I needed to fix how I was acting."
"Thankfully, he is the one who has dealt with her since this happened. Lots happened since. He is a firm believer that the family he created is his priority, not the family he came from. He has told her she's out of line time and time again."
"The lack of respect she has shown for us as people and parents since this happened has led us to very recently cut contact with her. It hurts because my family isn't very reliable and I wanted my daughter to have a close relationship with at least one set of grandparents, but I feel like it's what we had to do."
"She likes to play the victim. She later said she 'wasn't allowed to be a grandma' because we asked her to not feed our daughter without asking us since she was exclusive breastfeeding and hadn't started solids."
"She said all she did was let her lick a tomato and we were overreacting. Feeding her or letting her lick something, we felt like it was the principle of asking us first. That turned into her screaming 'F*CK YOU' over and over to my husband over the phone."
OP is looking for a sanity check after the relationship with her mother-in-law deteriorated.
Hopefully she got what she needed.
















New Mom Irate After Father-In-Law Ruins Her Birthday With 'Vulgar' Comment About Her Breasts
There's nothing quite like the feeling of going through all the work to prepare a fun celebration, just for someone to undo it with an unkind or gross comment.
That feeling just gets worse when it's your birthday, and that comment was made by someone who's supposed to care about you, sympathized the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Rude-Pepper-2389 had recently given birth and decided to have a special birthday celebration to reconnect with her loved ones after becoming a mom.
When her father-in-law stopped by unexpectedly and then made comments about her body, the Original Poster (OP) was left so uncomfortable that it ruined the whole celebration for her.
She asked the sub:
The OP wanted to have a special birthday celebration after her baby was born.
"I currently have a five-month-old and haven’t really been taking care of myself or dressing up since having the baby."
"It’s my (25 Female) birthday, and we were having friends over at our house for a private dinner to celebrate."
"My husband (24 Male) and I have been together since we were 18."
"I decided to put on this new silk shirt I got, which, admittedly, was low-cut, but I felt cute in it and felt comfortable around the friends we were having over."
Everything was fine until the OP's father-in-law (FIL) stopped by unexpectedly.
"My husband's dad decided to stop by on his way home from work."
"I will say, he was likely drunk. He works two hours away and proudly told my husband he's down to only four beers on his drive home each day... so, that's healthy."
"When he came in, I was on the couch with my baby propped up beside me, bottle feeding him. Keep in mind, I am not breastfeeding, so no, my breasts are not any larger right now."
"My husband's dad leaned down to look at the baby and then suddenly shouted, 'D**n, son, she could knock you out with those things in bed! Like cracking two coconuts together.'"
"This was fully and undoubtedly in reference to my breasts."
The OP was shocked by the comment and very uncomfortable.
"It made me deeply uncomfortable and embarrassed."
"I was so stunned, I couldn’t even process what he said to me, and our friends just stared at me, blinking."
"He’s a redneck, so he's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years, but this just seems to take the cake, as it was the first time it was directed at me."
"When he stepped out, I told my husband he needed to speak to him, and that the comment wasn’t okay."
"I went to change clothes and decided to never ever wear that shirt again."
"When I brought it up to my husband, he said he didn't hear the comment at first, but then he laughed when I told him what he said. He's always laughed when he feels awkward and has always had a hard time standing up to his parents in any capacity."
"When he and my father-in-law spoke, my FIL just said, 'I shouldn’t have said that to her, I know how she can be,' which just feels even more like I’m just being dramatic."
"Since then, I think my husband just wants me to drop it and move on, truthfully."
The OP wasn't sure what to do after what happened.
"This genuinely ruined my entire night. Am I just too sensitive, or was this an inappropriate thing to say?"
"There's also been no apology since then. This happened on Thursday, and then my father-in-law came by again on Friday with flowers to wish me a happy Mother's Day before Mother's Day Sunday."
"I think that was his way of trying to just breeze past the awkwardness. He's never gotten me a gift the whole seven years I've known him, so the flowers were odd. But I still feel really uncomfortable."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that her father-in-law's comments were rude and just plain creepy.
"NOR at all. That was really rude of him. Anyone would be offended." - Bookbringer
"NOR. That’s firmly in the category of what should be an 'inside thought,' and we should learn what those are at a much younger age than this guy is."
"F**king h**l, this is an absolutely mental thing to say out loud, let alone to your daughter-in-law." - Electronic-Fennel828
"FIL is an AH. I love that you think his being a redneck excuses it, but d**n. Even rednecks should know better than to speak that way to their son's wife."
"What does your husband have to say? Does he understand how breath-takingly rude his father was, or is he Team 'That's Just How He Is'?"
"I'd go very low contact with the old perv. NOR, he put you in an uncomfortable position with his crude remark. Is he married? I'd tell the MIL. I'd tell the whole family. Yes, it's embarrassing, but he is the one who should be embarrassed. Don't accept his non-apology." - Top-Bit85
"Maybe I’m desensitized after having large breasts since I was 13 (I’m 28 now), but I let out a little snort based on how immature of a joke it was. I’d simply tell FIL, 'Yes, I know, my boobs are big,' and move on."
"That said, I would never make such a comment about another person's body. Just because I'm technically fine with it doesn't mean I assume anyone else is!"
"Not everyone is the same, and if OP felt uncomfortable, she’s NOR. Her body, her boundaries." - Both_Original2094
"I’m sorry. That’s upsetting. My father is like this with his father. Even if it’s very offensive comments, he’s uncomfortable and has problems confronting him. It sounds like your husband isn’t going to have a talk with him, which is hurtful."
"I would explain to your husband how uncomfortable the situation was for you and that it’s a serious matter, especially if it happens again. And if he still tries to brush it off, then I would tell him you no longer want your FIL coming to your home."
"It’s your life, too, and he’s not the one being hurt here, you are." - w_coastultraviolence
Others were specifically angry about the tactics the father-in-law used to try to get out of trouble.
"Seriously? Saying 'I know how she can be' is a classic way to blame the victim for having boundaries. It’s your birthday, not a Hooters convention. What a creep. If he can’t look at the baby without checking out your breast, he shouldn't be invited to the house." - Specific_Parsnip3264
"'I know how she can be' is so f**ked up. He's the one being a disgusting person. You need to shine up your husband's spine to properly call him out at the time next time, because there will be a next time." - dancepantz
"The bit that pisses me off the most is, 'I know how she can be,' which is his way of making it her problem that she doesn't like her FiL sexualising her in front of her friends." - Outside-Partait-8935
"The 'joke' comment is gross, but that follow-up comment is infuriating. NOR, OP. But this guy will be in your life for a while, so firmly & calmly shutting this stuff down is completely appropriate."
"I'd wear the d**n shirt again to the next family function and look him right in the eyes next time!" - RationalFish
"When we let things like this slide for others, it's not long before it ends up on our doorstep, and of course, nobody says anything because keeping the peace is the norm. It doesn't have to be getting into their face and yelling abuse back. Just a comment such as, 'Well, that's super tacky to say,' or asking them why they'd say that." - Kattnapped
"The OP said, 'He's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years... but this is the first time it was directed to me.'"
"Normalise calling stuff out when they are talking about others, and they won't feel so comfortable saying it to you."
"It's a gross thing for him to say, but I guess him buying you flowers is his way of saying sorry."
"Sounds like you are in the situation of a lot of new mothers, where you suddenly realise this stuff matters because you want better influences for your child, and better support for yourself. NOR." - Jumpy-Jello-
Now, about that shirt...
"Please re-think your decision to never wear the cute shirt again, girl!! It's something that you liked very much because it made you feel good about yourself. Don't let some backwoods id**t ruin that for you."
"Wear that shirt till it's worn out and can't be worn anymore!! You should be able to feel good about yourself in whatever you like to wear."
"Your husband should have immediately checked his father, not waited until he was told to do so after his father left the room. In front of everyone there, your husband should have told his father not to ever speak about you or to you in that kind of manner, and if his father doesn't like it, he knows where the door is."
"Hubby should have called him out for his response as well. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were not the problem; his dad was. This comes down to your husband needing to protect his wife, and he didn't do that." - Lynzo141982
"If he is a redneck, like you said, he won't outright apologize, but flowers are his way of saying sorry."
"I hope he won't say anything again, or else you can expect a nicely tended garden for at least a year."
"About your top, I hope you can wear it again. It takes a lot to feel cute, being a new mum."
"If not, get some fabric dye, dye the top a different color, and embroider a flower on it. This makes the top new, different, and every time you wear it, you can use the mantra ... I'm cute, I don't care what anyone says."
"You've got this!!" - No_Kangaroo_6637
Even if the father-in-law was joking and meant no harm, this is one of those situations where he needs to admit that his joke did not land well, he did cause harm, and he needs to apologize. Just because some people enjoy joking in that manner does not mean that everyone will be comfortable with it, and it's important to respect everyone's boundaries and zones of comfort.