No matter how in love we might be with someone, not all relationships are destined to work out.
For many, cheating is an absolute deal breaker, and even when love is on the line, no amount of working on the relationship will fix it after an affair, empathized the members of the "Am I the A**hole?" (AITAH) subReddit.
Redditor WiskerRebel had to say goodbye to the husband she thought she'd spend the rest of her life with when she found out that he not only had cheated on her with a coworker, but he'd also gotten his coworker pregnant. Despite his hopes that she'd work on the relationship with him and help him co-parent his "affair baby," she moved on.
But when she later fell in love with another man and was willing to help him raise the children he had from a previous relationship, the Original Poster (OP) was shocked by how angry her ex-husband became over her being "hypocritical."
She asked the sub:
"AITAH for refusing to take my ex-husband back [and raise his 'affair baby' with him] but accepting my new fiancé's kids?"
The OP could not bear children, and her husband, Frank, struggled to cope with the news.
"My ex-husband, Frank, and I got married deeply in love. After a while, I found out I couldn't have children."
"Surgery was not an option for me. We consulted multiple doctors, and in the end, we had to accept that I wouldn't be able to have children. Adoption was also off the table because Frank didn't want it: he wanted biological children. He told me, 'I don't want to raise someone else's child.'"
"That time was especially difficult for me, and Frank was my biggest source of support... until he wasn't."
"Frank wanted kids, and he told me he didn't want to leave me but also wanted to have a child with someone else. I couldn't accept that."
"Because he was so blatant about having kids, even if it meant the mother wasn't me, I suggested divorce back then, but he swore he would never leave me. He even said, 'It will always be just the two of us until the end.'"
"I believed him. Frank and I met in high school and were together for ten years."
But then Frank took matters into his own hands and ruined their marriage.
"Later, I found out he had gotten a woman from his workplace pregnant."
"He told me he didn't want to divorce me and still wanted to be with me, but I couldn't stay."
"Despite his resistance, I divorced him, and he married the mother of his child. This was two years ago."
"When we divorced, I blocked Frank everywhere. However, he still hears about my life because my cousin is married to his best friend. I no longer speak to my cousin because, after the divorce, she defended Frank and insisted that he loved me. Unfortunately, some things just don't stay private within families."
"As for Frank's marriage, I know for a fact that he only got married due to pressure from his mother. She had already told him to divorce me and remarry as soon as she found out I couldn't have children. We never got along; she was one of those mothers who are possessive of their sons."
The OP later met Mark, who gave her hope again.
"Now, I'm with Mark. Mark is kind, understanding, and has been a great support system for me after everything with Frank. I love him deeply."
"He has two sons from his previous marriage (ages 3 and 5)."
"They stay with him every other weekend and see him regularly during the week. He's a great dad, and I admire that about him."
"Mark and I recently decided to get married, and I'm really happy about it."
Frank heard about the OP's engagement and couldn't cope.
"Ever since Frank found out, he has been trying to contact me. Today, he showed up outside my work."
"He accused me of being a hypocrite by accepting Mark's kids but refusing to accept his. He said that all he ever wanted was to build a life with me and grow old together and that I was being unfair for not accepting him under the same circumstances."
"He told me that Mark never had to make the kind of choice he did and that Mark was never put in a position where he had to pick between being with me and having biological children. He claimed that if Mark had been in his place, he would have made the same decision he did."
"Honestly, for a moment, that made me stop and think. That's how the manipulation started. He made me question myself, and in the end, I felt guilty."
The OP felt conflicted.
"Logically, I see why he thinks it's the same situation, but it doesn't feel the same."
"The thought of Frank and his child still hurts me, yet I don't feel the same way about Mark and his kids."
"Frank insists it's the same, but is it?"
"AITAH?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
- NTA: Not the A**hole
- YTA: You're the A**hole
- ESH: Everybody Sucks Here
- NAH: No A**holes Here
Some insisted that Mark and Frank's situations were not the same at all.
"NTA. These are not even remotely the same situation."
"The first situation wasn't about 'not accepting his child.' It was about infidelity and betrayal."
"In her current relationship, it seems like he is loyal and has not stepped outside their relationship."
"In fact, her ex CONTINUES to show he is disloyal by trying to get together with someone when he is already married. Dude needs counseling." - LeikOfForest
"The huge difference here is that your ex-husband cheated on you, breaking your trust, while your fiancé has been faithful and supportive. Trust is a huge factor in any relationship, and it's understandable that you wouldn't want to go back to someone who betrayed you like that."
"You've found someone who treats you with respect, and that's what matters now. It's not about hypocrisy; it's about honoring your boundaries and choosing a partner who values you." - Troublemaker_Cake
"The ex is pathetic because he is whining at her door after he cheats and he remarries. He is still feeling as if she mistreated him by not wanting him when he cheated."
"And the hypocrisy of him saying he refused to adopt because he didn't want to raise someone else's child, but expected her to help raise the baby of his affair partner. The audacity." - alycewandering7
"Frank cheated on his wife and got someone else pregnant...Mark had kids with someone he was married to ,and they got divorced. These two things are not alike." - brit_brat915
"Actually, what is 'the same thing' is that each man had children with another woman..."
"HOWEVER."
"Frank had his with an affair partner WHILE MARRIED TO HER."
"Mark had his in a committed relationship PRIOR TO their relationship starting."
"BIG DIFFERENCE. NTA." - T9Para
"There's a whole affair to be taken into the equation, and OP's ex has masterfully sidestepped it. She didn't leave him because of the kid, for f**k's sake."
"OP, my ex hides behind his kids to try to avoid consequences in just this same way. Don't let him rewrite history. He cheated and fathered a kid behind your back."
"Your husband didn't do that, his kids were a part of the package and were honestly presented as such."NTA, and your ex is a rusted tool." - runawayforlife
Others pointed out how obvious it was that Frank had not corrected his behavior, either.
"Also, what is her ex doing sniffing around when he has a kid and a new wife? Coming to her work? Skeevy."
"Imagine how the OP's ex-husband's new wife would feel when she finds out he's still sniffing around the woman he was previously married to." - pigandpigs
"It seems that SOMEONE enjoys playing the victim in his own imaginary story. NTA, OP." - Deep_Rig_1820
"He cheated on you, got another woman pregnant while he was married to you and he is playing victim?"
"Tell him to stay the f**k away from you, or you will be filing harassment charges."
"Definitely NTA." - Mother_Search3350
"NTA. Frank's 'logic' sounds a lot like gaslighting."
"If he had wanted to grow old with you, then he needed to abandon his requirement to have biological children of his own."
"You have entered into another relationship, and he shows up to admonish YOU? He calls YOU a hypocrite? Because you are accepting of children born prior to the relationship?"
"This is all about him. He wanted a biological child, so he made one...while breaking his vows to you. Boo hoo."
"Just what did he think would happen? That you would fall into his arms and beg forgiveness? That you would break up with a partner who you've committed to marry?"
"Thank goodness you're no longer married to him. Frank is a piece of work, and he is now learning about f**king around and finding out." - No-Ear-9899
"I felt sorry for her until I remembered that she chose to have an affair with and then have a kid with a married guy, so it's not like it should be a shock to her that Frank isn't exactly the most faithful or wonderful husband."
"She was meant to be his incubator, and after OP left, he probably couldn't find a good excuse not to marry her, especially with his Mommy Dearest breathing down his neck." - scarletnightingale
Not to anyone's surprise, the OP soon shared an unsettling update in a second post.
"I wanted to give an update and also get your advice on another issue."
"As some of you predicted in my last post, Frank hasn't given up. Every day, he sends flowers. Every morning, I find a new bouquet on my desk at the office."
"The notes always say things like how he won't give up on us, how he loves me, and how I'm the love of his life. (I've realized that these words don't mean anything to me anymore.)"
"I told Frank to stop and that I don't want to talk to him anymore, but the flowers keep coming."
"Since he has many connections in my company, including the owner, who is his friend, I can't even figure out exactly who is delivering them to my desk. Frank comes from a wealthy background, which gives him influence in places like my workplace, making it harder for me to shut this down."
In her update, the OP felt conflicted about talking to Mark and also about wedding invitations.
"I haven't told Mark about this because he gets very tense whenever Frank comes up in conversation. The last time I talked to him about Frank, he was angry. But keeping this from him doesn't feel right either. What should I do?"
"Another issue is causing tension between Mark and me. Mark doesn't want me to invite my aunt to our wedding. She is the mother of my cousin, who is married to Frank's best friend."
"However, my aunt has always been a very important person in my life; she's like a second mother to me. This has become a major point of conflict between Mark and me. I don't want to create distance between us, but I also don't want to lose my aunt. What should I do?"
"I would really appreciate any advice."
Some advised the OP that it was time to come clean with Mark.
"You have to be honest with Mark. It is also time to tell Frank's wife that her husband is sending you flowers."
"Also, I would inform Frank that if he does not stop bothering you, you will file charges with the police for harassment. Talking to his wife and threatening to charge with harassment, then telling Mark will tell Mark your true intentions." - fiestafan73
"Mark has his kids to think about. You not being truthful is not the way to start your marriage. You expect honesty from him, you should treat him with the same respect."
"Also, tell Frank's wife. Come on. He's publicly embarrassing her. Geez." - wishingforarainyday
"You will lose Mark over this if you don't tell him and he finds out about all this from someone else (and considering how public this all is already, he will find out)."
"You should have told him a long time ago. Now you are almost too late to tell him but you probably can save the relationship. But Mark also needs to chill out about your aunt. He is showing some bad signs right now."
"As for your ex, file charges, tell his wife and block him on everything if you haven't done that yet." - Kragg_hack
"You will definitely lose him if this comes out any other way than you telling him, and your ex seems like the kind of person who would confront Mark with the, 'Ohh, she didn't tell you,' bulls**t to get in his head."
"Not sure what advice to offer on the aunt situation, but it sounds like he's majorly insecure if a relative's kid's marriage to a friend of your ex is threatening. Any steps you take to prove that ex isn't a threat and that you're 100% in this with him should help, and if not, maybe it isn't meant to be. You can't live your life pandering to every time he's going to feel insecure about something and cut off anyone and any semblance of a life you had before him."
"Everyone's got a past, and there's no avoiding it. If you aren't encouraging your ex (which it sounds like you aren't), then he should be trying to help you figure it out. You shouldn't feel the need to hide being harassed by your ex from the person you're about to marry."
"His reaction to the news will tell you whether or not this is worth pursuing, but either was, you need to get your ex to leave you alone." - z00k33per0304
"If Mark would leave you because of the behavior of someone else, then he's not worth marrying. You are only in control of YOUR own actions."
"You're not encouraging Frank. You're not texting him, or flirting with him, or engaging with his insane fantasy of getting back together. You've done everything in your power to shut him down. Mark doesn't get to be mad at you because your ex is harassing you. This is a red flag."
"If Mark is blaming you for Frank's actions and trying to isolate you from members of your family (also because of Frank's actions), that means Mark isn't as great a guy as you thought."
"He should be supporting you! His anger should be directed at Frank, where it belongs. The two of you should be a team against this Frank problem. He should be supporting you." - Kathrynlena
"I think your ex's entire point was to make sure you have no one in your life. Now that word will get out that you and Mark are no longer together, the love-bombing will stop. And will start again as soon as he finds out you're dating someone."
"The weak link is your aunt, I'm afraid, and I think Mark had the right instincts in not wanting her around. So you either have to go low contact, or else keep her 100% in the dark about your private life." - scummy_shower_stall
Accepting the subReddit's advice, the OP told Mark the truth, but there were consequences.
"A lot happened last night. Right now, I'm sitting alone in my room, and I wanted to update you all."
"I talked to Mark and told him everything. He asked me why I hadn't told him sooner, and I explained my fears. First, he clarified that he wasn't angry at me for keeping it from him; he was angry at Frank. He apologized for being harsh with me before and admitted that a big part of his reaction was jealousy."
"However, he also said that, even though Frank's obsession isn't my fault, it could still cause serious problems in our lives. He doesn't know how far Frank is willing to take this, and while he loves me, he doesn't want to put his children in a situation like this."
"We decided to call off the wedding."
"I can't believe my relationship, which was going so well, has ended because of Frank. I feel so angry and heartbroken. In the heat of the moment, I messaged Frank's wife and told her everything. She saw the message but didn't reply."
"Then, Frank emailed me, saying he doesn't care whether his wife stays or leaves because if I take him back, he'll divorce her anyway. The email is still open in front of me, and I can't even process it."
"Why am I always the one who gets hurt? My whole life, I've tried to be kind, to see things from others' perspectives, and to focus on the good in people. I don't believe I deserve this. More than anything, I'm furious that after everything Frank has put me through, he still gets to move on without a care in the world."
As the comments started to roll in on the third post, the OP added a little more to the post.
"I want to thank everyone for their support. I received more kindness than I ever expected, and I'm truly grateful for it."
"The idea of moving feels like the right choice for me. I've already started looking into possible places to go. I just need to get away from everything for a while and start fresh."
"I also want to clarify that Frank is not physically violent. He doesn't pose that kind of threat. My family is aware of everything that has happened, and while they are angry at Frank, none of us have ever doubted my safety."
"That being said, I've decided to involve the police, as many of you suggested. Not because I'm afraid, but because it might finally make him keep his distance."
"On a side note, Frank's mother actually called my mom and asked her to make sure I don't get back together with Frank. My mom's response? 'You should focus on keeping your son in check.'"
While it was unfortunate that the OP's relationship with Mark dissolved over Frank's actions, it sounded like Mark was also struggling with some unresolved jealousy and sexism that could have hurt their marriage in some other way in the future.
The best plan was for the OP to start over in a new place, where she could meet new people and chase new opportunities. She could always stay in touch with the most meaningful people in her life, but even with them, she might want to be a little cagey with the details, in case anyone ever decided to play a round of Telephone with Frank.















Woman Asks If It's Wrong To Hold Grudge After Mom Told Her When She 8 Years Old That She Wished She'd Aborted Her
While some people view having and raising children as the greatest blessing, some parents hold their children's existence against them for their entire lives.
And when they feel that way about their children, they're unfortunately typically pretty honest about it, cringed the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor heavelymango knew from the time she was young that her mother did not really like her and significantly favored her sister.
But when her mother told her at the age of eight that she wished she had aborted her, the Original Poster (OP) held on to that grudge for years after the fact.
She asked the sub:
The OP had a grudge against her mother.
"I (22 Female) have been holding onto a grudge due to something my mom told me when I was roughly eight or nine years old."
"Growing up, I was a rebellious kid and always felt as if my mom favored my older sister. My sister would always get whatever she wanted."
"I know she was born with Down syndrome and always needed more attention and care, but if my sister wanted my tablet, for example, she would have it for the whole day while mine was limited to 30 minutes so she could have it."
"As a kid, I lashed out more because of this. She could take all of my things, but I could never use hers."
During a heated moment, the OP's mother said something unforgivable.
"Eventually, this led to an argument with my mom. I don't recall the whole thing, but it was related to my sister and how I felt my mom didn't care about me or give me the same amount of attention."
"The fight got heated, and I probably told my mom that I hated my sister and her."
"I remember she said back, 'I never wanted you from the start. I knew I should've aborted you when I had the chance.'"
" I didn't know what aborted meant at the time, and I remember I looked it up, and it made me cry. I never forgot it, and it lingers in my mind whenever I am home."
The OP's mother pressured her to "let it go" and move on.
"Even growing up, I still brought it up, and she would get mad, saying I need to let it go and how I'm stubborn for not just forgetting what she said."
"There was even a time in high school when she took me to a therapist, and she complained about how I never dropped what she said."
"She says I need to move on from it because it has affected my relationship with her, and she wants to fix it."
"I know I'm older now and it was so long ago, but it still hurts, and I feel like it's made me not want to have her in my life in the future, and I have told this to her."
"How I don't want her in my life once I move out, get married, or have my own kids."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that this sounded like a core memory more than a grudge.
"The axe forgets. The tree remembers."
"It sounds less like you're holding a grudge and more that this is a formative, core memory for you."
"It won't stop being a core memory (unless maybe with the help of a lot of therapy). Has your mom ever apologized for saying that? Because you don't have to forget to forgive, but if she's not remorseful for saying that terrible thing to her young child (not just remorseful that you remember it), then she probably needs therapy (or is a narcissist/sociopath/similar)."
"You are certainly not obligated to 'get over it.'" - Hot-Can3615
"This is not a 'grudge'; it is pain that is still felt to such a degree. If she said it, then she was thinking it. She'll probably never apologize, but that doesn't mean your pain is or was invalid." - Fast_Register_9480
"NOR. This kind of thing needs a real apology. Like she needs to acknowledge the damage and genuinely care about it. Brushing it off won’t make it go away." - TentacleWolverine
"NOR. Did she really want to fix things? She basically just told you to get over it from the start instead of giving you a sincere apology."
"That isn't working on anything. She wants you to get over it so she can pretend that she never said it, so she doesn't have to feel bad about what she did. It doesn't sound like she cares much about how you feel."
"She just doesn't want to deal with it. For that reason, I would still have issues with what she said." - Chemical-Ad6809
"If your relationship with your mother is being affected by the actions of your mother, your mother is responsible for fixing it."
"You should know you probably aren't ever going to get closure, but you don't have to swallow it down. It helps to be the person you needed when you were younger out loud to yourself, but especially to others."
"For example: My name is Liz, and my mom told me to go ahead and do it already and save us all the heartache when I finally had the courage to tell her about how much I've been struggling with self-harm and suicidal ideation. I'm never going to forgive her for that, and we have never been close as a result of her actions."
"You aren't holding onto a grudge; you have a core memory of your mother distilling her feelings into a world-shattering sentence."
"You did not have a secure attachment before and can't have one now because of the deep trauma. You do not apologize for being stabbed."
"Find another therapist. I mean it. Someone who cares about your well-being wouldn't force you to apologize for being verbally abused as a child. I'm 29 now, and I lived through it. I still struggle with suicidal ideation daily, but once I stopped relying on my mom and unstable sources for support, my life got better immediately."
"You want things for comfort and familiarity. Don't let your mom or your therapist gaslight you into crossing a boundary."
"It might help to ask for a written five-part apology from your mom. 1. Acknowledge what you did 2. Say why it was wrong 3. Promise not to do it again 4. Ask how to make amends. 5. Share your feelings at this time if there's anything you'd like to say."
"My mom can be a good person and a bad mom and role model. Being in your own company is so much better than poor company." - PotLuckyPodcast
Others hoped the OP would go no contact with her mother sooner rather than later.
"NOR. It’s emotional abuse. And you do not owe her closeness after that, especially as she refuses to be accountable for that and try to make it up to you."
"She knows you have her number, and she can’t forgive you for knowing what a colloidal b***h she is."
"It’s unlikely that will change; it will at least be turned back on you with her the victim."
"Stop expecting her to apologize. If she doesn’t pay your bills, ghost her." - SnooCheesecakes2723
"My mom said something similar. My brother and I were adopted, and when I was a teen, in front of a church lady, she said, 'We didn't even really want you, but the people didn't want to split y'all up, so we just took you, too.'"
"Me and the church lady were shook. When I say my falbbers were ghasted. Like huh? She didn't remember saying that when I brought it up years after the fact."
"I also got grounded two times for two separate nine weeks (for C's on my report card) and a three and a half to four months (for smoking at 16 and getting caught because she liked to just pop up out of nowhere), and we just had a talk about that, and she didn't even remember."
"She said, 'No, I didn't. I never grounded you for that long,' and when I gave my rebuttal, she said, 'Well, if I did, it definitely wasn't for no nine weeks or months,' and this started because she was praising me for reading so much and liking books. I said, 'Well, when you were grounded like me, that's all I could do (no TV, no friends outside of school, no music, nothing but my room and books)."
"There's a reason I only call or answer her calls once or twice every few weeks. And I only call to get food, really..." - ManicalMoe
"‘Fine, I'm sorry’ is not an apology."
"Whilst I’m sure it was said in anger, most things said in anger have a grain of truth. There are also some things that no half-decent parent ever says to their children, no matter how angry they are, and this is one of them! It also sounds like she has made repeated similar comments of not wanting you as her child."
"I understand her eldest had a disability, but this is no excuse for neglecting and emotionally abusing her younger child. Lots of families deal with a child with additional needs whilst still managing to prioritise their other kids. Children with Down syndrome are capable of understanding ‘that’s your sister's, not yours; give it back’ !! It sounds like your mum has mental health issues?"
"Do you have a present father or other family you can turn to?"
"Protect your peace. Your mum has hurt you time and time again, honestly, for no real gain other than momentarily satisfying her anger. You owe this woman nothing." - Background_Term9810
"I went through something similar. When I was a little girl, my mother used to make comments that implied she didn't want me, though it was never that explicit. 'I only had you because your brother wanted a sister,' and 'My figure never recovered after you; after your brother, it did.'"
"Each comment stayed with me, but I never addressed it with her. I tried to move on and leave it in the past. She did a lot of horrible things throughout my life, but her behavior was always ignored because that's the precedent my dad set, where she can do essentially whatever she wants."
"A few months ago, she came to see me because I was desperate for help and sick. Instead of helping, she made my life so much worse. I won't go into details. At one point, I could no longer keep it inside, and I told her that she is a narcissist, to which she responded with, 'It would have been better if I had never had you.'"
"In some ways, it felt really good to hear her come out and say it. It felt good to hear the truth I've always known."
"I don't know what you should do, but I've chosen to not forgive."
"Every time I forgave, I just let her know that she can get away with whatever horrible things she had done. Her apologies were never real apologies. She always found ways to blame me or others for whatever she had done."
"And I'm truly just done with it. As sad as it is to not have a mom, it's sadder to pretend that you have one when in reality you don't... quite the opposite, if anything." - Neos_Mom
"So, OP, what will hurt more: keeping her and the grudge in your life or making a break and going low or no contact with her?"
"Frankly, we've no idea of what she might have been dealing with at the time, but regardless, what she said was said only to cause pain and suffering. 'Sorry' doesn't magic that intent away."
"Me, I think spending time alone or with friends or in therapy away from her might be what you need here. You might come to some sort of acceptance, but if this is something that's just going to keep coming between you, then stop trying to have that relationship." - Tal_Tos_72
After the OP received feedback, she shared a few clarifications from her original post.
"I wanted to clear some things up, take accountability where it's due, and provide some much-needed context from many people commenting the same questions."
"I want to be completely honest. We had many arguments, and I was a rebellious kid. I acted out and argued with my mom."
"I don't want to give off the impression that I was an entirely innocent kid who never did anything wrong and my mom just snapped out of nowhere. We both said hateful and hurtful things to each other during our fights."
"Growing up, the only way she would accept an apology was if I got on my knees and begged her for forgiveness. If I ever asked her to apologize to me, she would say, 'I have nothing to apologize for; you should be the one begging for my forgiveness.'"
The OP had a lot of physical memories, too.
"Things also would turn into physical arguments, not just verbal ones."
"There were times when she would get so angry she would get physical. Like yanking me by my hair, twisting my arms, or throwing things at me (like remotes, a bug spray can, or a radio)."
"When she yanked my hair, I would fight back just to get her to let me go, and she would scream that I was trying to kill her and she would get me arrested. When she twisted my arm, and I begged her to stop because it felt like it was going to break, she would say she hoped it did."
"When she threw objects at me, she would say she wished they would hit my face."
"I remember in middle school, during an argument, she said she wished she could break my face and that she hated it because I look like my dad. I won’t lie, whenever she said things like that, I would say nasty comments about how she chose to have him put us in her."
While the OP wasn't financially ready to move out yet, she hoped to as soon as possible.
"Why haven't I moved out yet? The main reason I haven't been able to move out is financial."
"I wasn't making enough to support myself without worrying about whether I’d end up having to crawl back home."
"Thankfully, I have recently found a better-paying job. My plan is to move out between mid-to-late October, or early November at the latest."
"The only reason I can't leave this exact second is because I have a few legal/administrative things to get cleared up so I’m completely untied from my mom, which will take a few weeks."
The OP also had proof that her mother liked her sister better.
"Has my mom ever admitted to favoring my sister? Yes."
"In arguments, she has explicitly told me that she doesn't see me as her legitimate daughter, and that she adored my sister more and forever will. She has also called me a 'monster,' told me there is a certain type of evil inside of me, and said she was afraid I would be just like my dad and try to harm them."
"She would even tell me that she was telling family and friends these things about me, but then later claim she 'just said it in the moment' and wouldn't be crazy enough to actually tell people that."
"Because I was so confused growing up and didn't know if she was lying or telling the truth, I started avoiding our family when they came over."
"Naturally, that just made things worse because she would get mad at me for avoiding them (even now as an adult), completely ignoring the fact that she was the one who lied about what she told them."
Unfortunately, the OP didn't have support from her father.
"What about my dad? My dad is not in my life."
"He was around sporadically, but never as a stable parent. My parents separated before I was born and divorced when I was two or three."
"Growing up, it was just constant back-and-forth toxicity, with him telling me how toxic my mother was, and her telling me the same about him."
"He would mostly only come over to see my sister, and often used me to care for her if he wanted to take her out to eat. Ultimately, my dad didn't care about anyone else other than my sister (and his drugs)."
"I hope this can clear some questions on the original post. I know I didn't provide many details as I originally should have. I honestly didn't want to post something too long, and I honestly did not expect it to be noticed."
"Thank you all for taking time to talk to me and share your thoughts."
The subReddit fully sided with the OP, pointing out that no matter how heated the moment was, it would never excuse the terrible things the OP's mother had said to her.
If the OP's mother really wanted a relationship with her, she'd drop the defensiveness and demands, offer a genuine apology, and work hard to be better for both of her children.
That takes a very rare kind of person to pull off, and it didn't sound like the OP's mother had that in her.
If you or someone you know is struggling, you can contact the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 988.
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