In 1840, Queen Victoria chose a white satin and lace gown for her wedding to Prince Albert. Her choice influenced wedding trends around the world.
During the Victorian era—the reign of Queen Victoria from June, 1837 until her death in January, 1901—white wedding dresses became symbols of innocence and virginity. But the trend didn't really catch on across socioeconomic groups until after WWII.
Hollywood films also popularized the white wedding dress which has spread to areas of the globe where other colors were traditionally worn.
A newlywed turned to the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subReddit for feedback.
Infinite_Tank620 asked:
"AITA for telling my sister I get it, she's jealous and still a virgin, after she told me I'd look better in a red wedding dress?"
The original poster (OP) explained:
"I (29, female) just got married. My sister 'Tara' (27, female) and I have never had the best relationship."
"She's always been pretty insecure, and growing up, there was a lot of tension between us. I've always tried to be sensitive to it, but it's been hard because she has a tendency to lash out in passive-aggressive ways."
"It got much worse when I got into a college that she didn't get into."
"At my wedding, I was mingling with the guests and Tara came up to me and told me that I would have looked better in red."
"It's an insult, basically saying the bride should be in red is calling them a wh*re. That they are not pure enough to wear white."
"Maybe it's regional, but after white wedding dresses became popular they got the association with being pure."
"Then religion popped in and virgins were claimed to be the only people who could wear white to their wedding. So if you weren't a virgin, then you were not supposed to wear white."
"If you look at people getting remarried in the past, they usally didn't wear white. The color red popped up at some point and the insult was made to mean the bride was wicked, impure, a wh*re, or some variation of those insults."
"Also, I am not part of any cultures were red is the wedding color for brides."
"I told her, 'I get it, Tara. You're jealous, and still a virgin, but this isn't the time to make your insecurities my problem'. I didn't shout, but my tone was harsh."
"Tara stormed off, and I could tell some people overheard. My brother later told me I was out of line and should apologize, that I humiliated her in front of everyone."
"He's always been on her side, really doesn't matter why. Whole childhood those two stuck together no matter what. I think he feels bad for her, but I am unsure."
"Tara wants an apology and says I was being a d*ck. My dad and mom told me she will have to get over it because this has been an ongoing issue."
The OP summed up their situation.
"I may be a jerk because I was harsh with my comeback after she told me I would look better in red."
Redditors weighed in by declaring:
- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA - You're The A**hole
- NAH - No A**holes Here
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
Redditors decided the OP was not the a**hole (NTA).
"So she can essentially call you a wh*re in front of those same guests, but you can't respond appropriately and firmly to defend yourself at your own wedding‽‽ NTA."
"I'm certainly glad your parents have your back on this, but I can't figure out for the life of me what your siblings' deal is. They seem to have an enmeshed relationship with each other."
"In any case, I hope your wedding day was beautiful outside of that. Good luck in your life together!" ~ Jovon35
"That baffled me too. Sister humiliated herself when she decided to be nasty to OP on her wedding day—end of discussion."
"Brother's absolute loyalty to one sister over the other is just odd. At least the parents understand how inappropriate it is to call OP a wh*re at her wedding."
"How is this even a debate? NTA." ~ Round_Butterfly2091
"NTA. Don't commit a crime if you can't do the time. Don't dish out what you can't take back in return. These are common sayings for a reason."
"What's the alternative? Take it and say, 'Please ma'am, may I have another?' What did they seriously expect you to do?" ~ naisfurious
"Obviously, the bride was supposed to run off in shame and never again show her dishonest, harlot face in polite society."
"Then the crowd would cheer for the sister and proclaim her the most pure and hold a gala in her honor where the townsfolk would bring our their most eligible bachelors for her to choose a suitor from. 🤨🙄😒 NTA." ~ nervelli
"Yeah, both of the siblings can get bent. She needs to learn to not throw stones if she doesn't want any hurled back."
"Who the F says that to a bride on their wedding day? Excuse me‽‽ IDGAF if that was my sister or not."
"That'd be a quick 'there's the exit' from me. She obviously said it in front of others too, so...NTA, OP. Sorry your siblings suck, but congrats to you!" ~ TepHoBubba
"She essentially called you a wh*re on your wedding day, and your brother is just letting it slide. That isn't just 'he feels bad for her'."
"My own brother screwed me over multiple times, treated me like a maid, etc... My father had to leave his job because my brother would play xBox while I was right in front of him scrubbing his muddy bootprints off the carpet...while visibly trembling from chemo.
"I am okay with him now, but it took a while...and we will never get to where we once were. He is more of a distant cousin than a sibling to me."
"While my father was upset at everything he did and acknowledged it was wrong, it irks him to no end that I won't be more chummy with him."
"Several months back, he tried to lecture me on the importance of 'family sticking together'...so I asked Dad what he would have done if anybody, and I mean ANYBODY treated me half as bad as my brother did."
"If my boyfriend—now fiancé—of 7 years, who my father loves like a son, treated me half as badly. My father straight-up stated they would no longer be around to do it again."
"So I asked him why he is expecting me to cozy up to someone who treated me that way just because they are 'family'...after all, doesn't it make it even worse that my own sibling, who was supposed to care about me, treated me so horribly?"
"It finally dawned on dear old Dad that I'm not the one who should be making those amends, and how wrong it was to try to force me to be closer to my bully. That what I am doing is MORE than enough...and he hasn't put that ball in my court since."
"Your brother is expecting you to set yourself on fire to keep her warm, and it needs to stop. At least your parents aren't putting up with that load of bull. NTA, OP. " ~ Lower-Elk8395
"Soooo, lemme get this straight—your sister goes out of her way to mock you AT YOUR WEDDING, but YOU are in the wrong for snapping back? No, OP, NTA. If your sister can't handle responses to her nasty comments, she should keep her mouth shut." ~ HNGWHITEBOI25
"You are NTA and your Mom and Dad are right—Tara will have to get over her jealousy and learn to deal with her own feelings more appropriately."
By the way, kudos to your parents for NOT urging you to apologize to Tara just to keep the family peace! I've read ever so many accounts from people whose parents pressure them like crazy to apologize/knuckle under to outrageously obnoxious family members in the interest of family harmony."
"Those parents are so terrified of conflict that they'll throw their own kids under the bus just to shut up the loudest, most spoiled and selfish member of the family if that family member squawks loudly enough!"
"Of course, all this does is to reward that family member and encourage them to go right on acting like a brat. Your parents are wise enough to see that this never works and that your sister can and should be held to a higher standard."
"Seriously, OP, good for you AND good for your parents!" ~ Royal-House-5478
"NTA, she sounds exhausting. I'd go low(er) contact with her and her minion." ~ PilotIntelligent8906
"NTA, and don't apologize. She began with the nasty comments, so it's her problem if you strike back." ~ Aggressive-Jacket663
"She tried to humiliate you on what is supposed to be one of the best days of your life. NTA." ~ Manager-Limp
"NTA. She was obviously digging at you. She was trying to bring you down on your wedding day."
"Your sister has some issues she needs to work through. Other people's weddings are not the time, nor the place for it."
"I'd simply refuse to apologize. If your sister shouldn't dish it out if she can't take it." ~ Inner-Nothing7779
Luckily, it doesn't sound like her sister or brother ruined her wedding day, but not for lack of trying.
Demanding an apology when the sister's own behavior humiliated her is an odd request. What would they want the OP to say? I'm sorry you're petty and childish?
















New Mom Irate After Father-In-Law Ruins Her Birthday With 'Vulgar' Comment About Her Breasts
There's nothing quite like the feeling of going through all the work to prepare a fun celebration, just for someone to undo it with an unkind or gross comment.
That feeling just gets worse when it's your birthday, and that comment was made by someone who's supposed to care about you, sympathized the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Rude-Pepper-2389 had recently given birth and decided to have a special birthday celebration to reconnect with her loved ones after becoming a mom.
When her father-in-law stopped by unexpectedly and then made comments about her body, the Original Poster (OP) was left so uncomfortable that it ruined the whole celebration for her.
She asked the sub:
The OP wanted to have a special birthday celebration after her baby was born.
"I currently have a five-month-old and haven’t really been taking care of myself or dressing up since having the baby."
"It’s my (25 Female) birthday, and we were having friends over at our house for a private dinner to celebrate."
"My husband (24 Male) and I have been together since we were 18."
"I decided to put on this new silk shirt I got, which, admittedly, was low-cut, but I felt cute in it and felt comfortable around the friends we were having over."
Everything was fine until the OP's father-in-law (FIL) stopped by unexpectedly.
"My husband's dad decided to stop by on his way home from work."
"I will say, he was likely drunk. He works two hours away and proudly told my husband he's down to only four beers on his drive home each day... so, that's healthy."
"When he came in, I was on the couch with my baby propped up beside me, bottle feeding him. Keep in mind, I am not breastfeeding, so no, my breasts are not any larger right now."
"My husband's dad leaned down to look at the baby and then suddenly shouted, 'D**n, son, she could knock you out with those things in bed! Like cracking two coconuts together.'"
"This was fully and undoubtedly in reference to my breasts."
The OP was shocked by the comment and very uncomfortable.
"It made me deeply uncomfortable and embarrassed."
"I was so stunned, I couldn’t even process what he said to me, and our friends just stared at me, blinking."
"He’s a redneck, so he's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years, but this just seems to take the cake, as it was the first time it was directed at me."
"When he stepped out, I told my husband he needed to speak to him, and that the comment wasn’t okay."
"I went to change clothes and decided to never ever wear that shirt again."
"When I brought it up to my husband, he said he didn't hear the comment at first, but then he laughed when I told him what he said. He's always laughed when he feels awkward and has always had a hard time standing up to his parents in any capacity."
"When he and my father-in-law spoke, my FIL just said, 'I shouldn’t have said that to her, I know how she can be,' which just feels even more like I’m just being dramatic."
"Since then, I think my husband just wants me to drop it and move on, truthfully."
The OP wasn't sure what to do after what happened.
"This genuinely ruined my entire night. Am I just too sensitive, or was this an inappropriate thing to say?"
"There's also been no apology since then. This happened on Thursday, and then my father-in-law came by again on Friday with flowers to wish me a happy Mother's Day before Mother's Day Sunday."
"I think that was his way of trying to just breeze past the awkwardness. He's never gotten me a gift the whole seven years I've known him, so the flowers were odd. But I still feel really uncomfortable."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that her father-in-law's comments were rude and just plain creepy.
"NOR at all. That was really rude of him. Anyone would be offended." - Bookbringer
"NOR. That’s firmly in the category of what should be an 'inside thought,' and we should learn what those are at a much younger age than this guy is."
"F**king h**l, this is an absolutely mental thing to say out loud, let alone to your daughter-in-law." - Electronic-Fennel828
"FIL is an AH. I love that you think his being a redneck excuses it, but d**n. Even rednecks should know better than to speak that way to their son's wife."
"What does your husband have to say? Does he understand how breath-takingly rude his father was, or is he Team 'That's Just How He Is'?"
"I'd go very low contact with the old perv. NOR, he put you in an uncomfortable position with his crude remark. Is he married? I'd tell the MIL. I'd tell the whole family. Yes, it's embarrassing, but he is the one who should be embarrassed. Don't accept his non-apology." - Top-Bit85
"Maybe I’m desensitized after having large breasts since I was 13 (I’m 28 now), but I let out a little snort based on how immature of a joke it was. I’d simply tell FIL, 'Yes, I know, my boobs are big,' and move on."
"That said, I would never make such a comment about another person's body. Just because I'm technically fine with it doesn't mean I assume anyone else is!"
"Not everyone is the same, and if OP felt uncomfortable, she’s NOR. Her body, her boundaries." - Both_Original2094
"I’m sorry. That’s upsetting. My father is like this with his father. Even if it’s very offensive comments, he’s uncomfortable and has problems confronting him. It sounds like your husband isn’t going to have a talk with him, which is hurtful."
"I would explain to your husband how uncomfortable the situation was for you and that it’s a serious matter, especially if it happens again. And if he still tries to brush it off, then I would tell him you no longer want your FIL coming to your home."
"It’s your life, too, and he’s not the one being hurt here, you are." - w_coastultraviolence
Others were specifically angry about the tactics the father-in-law used to try to get out of trouble.
"Seriously? Saying 'I know how she can be' is a classic way to blame the victim for having boundaries. It’s your birthday, not a Hooters convention. What a creep. If he can’t look at the baby without checking out your breast, he shouldn't be invited to the house." - Specific_Parsnip3264
"'I know how she can be' is so f**ked up. He's the one being a disgusting person. You need to shine up your husband's spine to properly call him out at the time next time, because there will be a next time." - dancepantz
"The bit that pisses me off the most is, 'I know how she can be,' which is his way of making it her problem that she doesn't like her FiL sexualising her in front of her friends." - Outside-Partait-8935
"The 'joke' comment is gross, but that follow-up comment is infuriating. NOR, OP. But this guy will be in your life for a while, so firmly & calmly shutting this stuff down is completely appropriate."
"I'd wear the d**n shirt again to the next family function and look him right in the eyes next time!" - RationalFish
"When we let things like this slide for others, it's not long before it ends up on our doorstep, and of course, nobody says anything because keeping the peace is the norm. It doesn't have to be getting into their face and yelling abuse back. Just a comment such as, 'Well, that's super tacky to say,' or asking them why they'd say that." - Kattnapped
"The OP said, 'He's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years... but this is the first time it was directed to me.'"
"Normalise calling stuff out when they are talking about others, and they won't feel so comfortable saying it to you."
"It's a gross thing for him to say, but I guess him buying you flowers is his way of saying sorry."
"Sounds like you are in the situation of a lot of new mothers, where you suddenly realise this stuff matters because you want better influences for your child, and better support for yourself. NOR." - Jumpy-Jello-
Now, about that shirt...
"Please re-think your decision to never wear the cute shirt again, girl!! It's something that you liked very much because it made you feel good about yourself. Don't let some backwoods id**t ruin that for you."
"Wear that shirt till it's worn out and can't be worn anymore!! You should be able to feel good about yourself in whatever you like to wear."
"Your husband should have immediately checked his father, not waited until he was told to do so after his father left the room. In front of everyone there, your husband should have told his father not to ever speak about you or to you in that kind of manner, and if his father doesn't like it, he knows where the door is."
"Hubby should have called him out for his response as well. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were not the problem; his dad was. This comes down to your husband needing to protect his wife, and he didn't do that." - Lynzo141982
"If he is a redneck, like you said, he won't outright apologize, but flowers are his way of saying sorry."
"I hope he won't say anything again, or else you can expect a nicely tended garden for at least a year."
"About your top, I hope you can wear it again. It takes a lot to feel cute, being a new mum."
"If not, get some fabric dye, dye the top a different color, and embroider a flower on it. This makes the top new, different, and every time you wear it, you can use the mantra ... I'm cute, I don't care what anyone says."
"You've got this!!" - No_Kangaroo_6637
Even if the father-in-law was joking and meant no harm, this is one of those situations where he needs to admit that his joke did not land well, he did cause harm, and he needs to apologize. Just because some people enjoy joking in that manner does not mean that everyone will be comfortable with it, and it's important to respect everyone's boundaries and zones of comfort.