Not every grieving person wants to talk about their pain and loss anytime a conversation about the deceased arises.
Every one grieves differently, but also everyone has different memories of a person who passed.
And they aren't always pleasant ones.
A man is tired of being forced to speak about his late wife every time he is around her family, especially since he found out she was having an affair while they were married, and is considering telling them about it just so they will leave him alone, so he turned to the "Am I The A**hole Here" (AITAH) subReddit to seek feedback from fellow Redditors.
Redditor Imdone-2244 asked:
"WIBTA if I told my late wife's family that she cheated on me?"
The Original Poster (OP) explained:
"Ana, my late wife, died in a car accident, the person lost control of their car and ran her over, and she passed away immediately."
"We were both 26 at the time; it was 4 years ago, right before the pandemic."
"We were having a bad time as a couple, she was extreamly jelous of me and also very protective of her phone."
"Shortly after her death, I found out I had an STD, and surprise, surprise, she was cheating on me."
"On the day she passed, a guy we went to college and was kinda friends with sent her messages, asking for pictures of their last encounter and the way he talked. It seemed like it was recent, and it seemed that they talked often."
"I was able to get in her phone and laptop, as she didnt change her passwords because she would Always ask to check my phone, and I would ask for hers back, so I had the password."
"There wasn't much because she deleted everything or hid it very well, but the most recent messages, she obviously couldn't delete them, so everything that came after her death was still there."
"While looking for the pictures he asked for, I found pictures of her and him in a .rar deep in a random place at her work folders, at her laptop."
"In one of them she had short hair, which she only had right after we got engaged."
"So she was with him for at least three years out of our six years together."
"Also, I found pictures of 2 other guys, but I have no idea who they are, and there were no messages from either of them anywhere."
"I messaged the "friend" and told him that I knew, told him about the STD, and that I wouldn't reveal it to anyone and wanted it to be kept a secret forever."
"I asked him if anyone else knew, and he said that his ex knew, but he would talk to her."
"I decided that for the sake of her parents and siblings, I would pretend she was a great person and let them have their beautiful memories with her."
"Ana's older brother Thomas (34/M[ale]) is a good friend of mine to this day."
"I would even go as far as to say we are best friends."
"After two years of my wife's passing, I was ready to date again."
"Thomas said that he knew the perfect girl for me; he just wanted me to be sure I was ready for something serious before introducing ourselves."
"It was his sister-in-law, Laura (27/F[emale])."
"We knew each other only superficially, but never really talked before our first date."
"I fell for her quick and hard."
"We started dating and about 3 months in we were already telling each other I love yous and I told her I was going to marry her."
"It has been a little less than two years; we are engaged, and I have never been this happy."
"I told her all about my relationship with Ana."
"I still have the evidence of what she did stored away in my computer just in case, and I showed it to Laura."
"She cried a little and comforted me, but I assured her I was fine and that I was over it."
"The problem comes with Ana's Family."
"Especially her mom and sister."
"Ever since Ana's passing, every time they talk about her, people want to hear me talk."
"They ask me about her, and try to include me in conversations about her. 'Ana was such a good cook, right (my name)?,' 'I loved when she and (my name) would banter, you remember (my name)?'"
"Stuff like this."
"I was able to get by in the beginning by saying it was difficult for me to talk about her, that I was not ready."
"They let me be for a while, but ever since I started dating Laura, I couldn't use the' I'm not ready' excuse."
"Her friends, sister, and mom get annoyed if I don't sound enthusiastic or depressed (learned that it's easier to look depressed)."
"Also, if I talk about Ana in any way that doesn't portray her as an angel who came down to Earth to bless us with her presence, I get side-eyed."
"Thankfully, Thomas and her father are great guys, and don't push me too hard on this."
"Her dad is always thankful that I attend their Family gatherings, as we like to talk about our field of work. He always says he considers me a son."
"Her mom and sister, though, get pissy if I try to dodge the topic of Ana, and the sister even said it out loud once that its obvious that I didnt love Ana."
"She apologized after, but I mean, she isn't wrong, by the end I didnt, and sure as hell don't now."
"Look, I'm over what happened; I don't feel hate for Ana anymore."
"I sometimes catch myself wishing she was alive just so I didnt have to pretend anymore, but also because her death was a tragedy, a lot of people loved her."
"Her friends organize a reunion for her birthday, and those are incredibly hard. Even though I know her AP will be there, I go because I know how much she meant to those people."
"But this is all starting to get to me because it's affecting Laura."
"I can't say I love her in front of these people; I can't even hug her, and Ana's sister gets all moody."
"Her best friend stopped speaking to Laura (they were also friends)."
"Ana's mom even came to us at Thomas's birthday party last week and asked us to stop dancing to respect her grief."
"She also contacted my mom and Laura's parents to say that she was incredibly disappointed that I proposed to Laura so soon, saying that we are moving too fast."
"It's been four years. Even if she wasn't a cheater, more than enough time has passed."
"I'm just over it, and I'm seriously considering telling all of them what happened, just to get the weight off my back."
"WIBTA if I did this?"
Redditors weighed in on the situation and agreed he is not the a**hole (NTA) for feeling the way he does, but they did, however, urge him to have a conversation with his in-laws about the way he feels before he unloads everything on them.
"NTA. You're doing a nice thing to protect Ana's memory, but Laura is here and now, she does not deserve this treatment."
"Maybe as a middle ground, tell just her brother and have him try to address their behavior before you escalate." - Agoraphobe961
"Man, that's a heavy situation."
"It's great that you're happy with Laura, but dealing with Ana's family sounds like a lot."
"Maybe having a heart-to-heart with them, or even just focusing on your own peace, could help."
"You deserve to move forward without all this stress." - alexxprecious
"First off, condolences for your loss and the roller coaster ride of emotions."
"Don't weaponize her cheating."
"It will go over like a fart in church, and it will not be accepted by her mother & sister, who consider her daughter the equivalent of Christ reborn."
"Uness, if you want to burn bridges with that side of the family, consider divulging that information to be the nuclear option."
"Especially because you have such a good relationship with the male member of her family."
"The catty women would seek to drive a wedge between you guys."
"Stick to the topic."
"Sit down with your MiL & SiL and explain to them you will not be known as the grieving widower forever."
"You have a life and deserve to find happiness."
"It's what your wife would have wanted for you."
"You can love your ex-wife and cherish her memories without putting her on a pedestal where nobody can speak a lick of ill about her."
"This is not an ask for permission, it's you giving notice that you are moving on from your wife due to her death and will be pursuing happiness."
"You are not going to disrespect your new woman by withholding affection in front of your in-laws."
"Stop, get a grip of yourself and dont release that information unless you have done a chess move analysis of all parties & players involved and where you see yourself 5 moves from now if you ever open your mouth."
"I think you WBTA" - BeeYehWoo
All in all, though, they do feel he would be better off without his in-laws in his life.
"Looks like Ana's family is still trying to control your life, even from the grave."
"Maybe it's time to let go of their expectations and focus on your own happiness with Laura."
"You deserve it." - Miss_Hottiee
"I would honestly stop caring about what her mom and sister think."
"Maybe tell her brother just to explain why you would be distancing yourself and that's it"
"NTA" - throwinglater123
"Why are you still seeing them?"
"It sounds like it's affecting your relationship with Laura."
"You need to leave Ana and her family behind and make your own life with Laura." - greyhounds4life1969
According to his fellow Redditors, OP does need to have a conversation with his in-laws, but perhaps he should hold off on telling them everything for now.















New Mom Irate After Father-In-Law Ruins Her Birthday With 'Vulgar' Comment About Her Breasts
There's nothing quite like the feeling of going through all the work to prepare a fun celebration, just for someone to undo it with an unkind or gross comment.
That feeling just gets worse when it's your birthday, and that comment was made by someone who's supposed to care about you, sympathized the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Rude-Pepper-2389 had recently given birth and decided to have a special birthday celebration to reconnect with her loved ones after becoming a mom.
When her father-in-law stopped by unexpectedly and then made comments about her body, the Original Poster (OP) was left so uncomfortable that it ruined the whole celebration for her.
She asked the sub:
The OP wanted to have a special birthday celebration after her baby was born.
"I currently have a five-month-old and haven’t really been taking care of myself or dressing up since having the baby."
"It’s my (25 Female) birthday, and we were having friends over at our house for a private dinner to celebrate."
"My husband (24 Male) and I have been together since we were 18."
"I decided to put on this new silk shirt I got, which, admittedly, was low-cut, but I felt cute in it and felt comfortable around the friends we were having over."
Everything was fine until the OP's father-in-law (FIL) stopped by unexpectedly.
"My husband's dad decided to stop by on his way home from work."
"I will say, he was likely drunk. He works two hours away and proudly told my husband he's down to only four beers on his drive home each day... so, that's healthy."
"When he came in, I was on the couch with my baby propped up beside me, bottle feeding him. Keep in mind, I am not breastfeeding, so no, my breasts are not any larger right now."
"My husband's dad leaned down to look at the baby and then suddenly shouted, 'D**n, son, she could knock you out with those things in bed! Like cracking two coconuts together.'"
"This was fully and undoubtedly in reference to my breasts."
The OP was shocked by the comment and very uncomfortable.
"It made me deeply uncomfortable and embarrassed."
"I was so stunned, I couldn’t even process what he said to me, and our friends just stared at me, blinking."
"He’s a redneck, so he's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years, but this just seems to take the cake, as it was the first time it was directed at me."
"When he stepped out, I told my husband he needed to speak to him, and that the comment wasn’t okay."
"I went to change clothes and decided to never ever wear that shirt again."
"When I brought it up to my husband, he said he didn't hear the comment at first, but then he laughed when I told him what he said. He's always laughed when he feels awkward and has always had a hard time standing up to his parents in any capacity."
"When he and my father-in-law spoke, my FIL just said, 'I shouldn’t have said that to her, I know how she can be,' which just feels even more like I’m just being dramatic."
"Since then, I think my husband just wants me to drop it and move on, truthfully."
The OP wasn't sure what to do after what happened.
"This genuinely ruined my entire night. Am I just too sensitive, or was this an inappropriate thing to say?"
"There's also been no apology since then. This happened on Thursday, and then my father-in-law came by again on Friday with flowers to wish me a happy Mother's Day before Mother's Day Sunday."
"I think that was his way of trying to just breeze past the awkwardness. He's never gotten me a gift the whole seven years I've known him, so the flowers were odd. But I still feel really uncomfortable."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that her father-in-law's comments were rude and just plain creepy.
"NOR at all. That was really rude of him. Anyone would be offended." - Bookbringer
"NOR. That’s firmly in the category of what should be an 'inside thought,' and we should learn what those are at a much younger age than this guy is."
"F**king h**l, this is an absolutely mental thing to say out loud, let alone to your daughter-in-law." - Electronic-Fennel828
"FIL is an AH. I love that you think his being a redneck excuses it, but d**n. Even rednecks should know better than to speak that way to their son's wife."
"What does your husband have to say? Does he understand how breath-takingly rude his father was, or is he Team 'That's Just How He Is'?"
"I'd go very low contact with the old perv. NOR, he put you in an uncomfortable position with his crude remark. Is he married? I'd tell the MIL. I'd tell the whole family. Yes, it's embarrassing, but he is the one who should be embarrassed. Don't accept his non-apology." - Top-Bit85
"Maybe I’m desensitized after having large breasts since I was 13 (I’m 28 now), but I let out a little snort based on how immature of a joke it was. I’d simply tell FIL, 'Yes, I know, my boobs are big,' and move on."
"That said, I would never make such a comment about another person's body. Just because I'm technically fine with it doesn't mean I assume anyone else is!"
"Not everyone is the same, and if OP felt uncomfortable, she’s NOR. Her body, her boundaries." - Both_Original2094
"I’m sorry. That’s upsetting. My father is like this with his father. Even if it’s very offensive comments, he’s uncomfortable and has problems confronting him. It sounds like your husband isn’t going to have a talk with him, which is hurtful."
"I would explain to your husband how uncomfortable the situation was for you and that it’s a serious matter, especially if it happens again. And if he still tries to brush it off, then I would tell him you no longer want your FIL coming to your home."
"It’s your life, too, and he’s not the one being hurt here, you are." - w_coastultraviolence
Others were specifically angry about the tactics the father-in-law used to try to get out of trouble.
"Seriously? Saying 'I know how she can be' is a classic way to blame the victim for having boundaries. It’s your birthday, not a Hooters convention. What a creep. If he can’t look at the baby without checking out your breast, he shouldn't be invited to the house." - Specific_Parsnip3264
"'I know how she can be' is so f**ked up. He's the one being a disgusting person. You need to shine up your husband's spine to properly call him out at the time next time, because there will be a next time." - dancepantz
"The bit that pisses me off the most is, 'I know how she can be,' which is his way of making it her problem that she doesn't like her FiL sexualising her in front of her friends." - Outside-Partait-8935
"The 'joke' comment is gross, but that follow-up comment is infuriating. NOR, OP. But this guy will be in your life for a while, so firmly & calmly shutting this stuff down is completely appropriate."
"I'd wear the d**n shirt again to the next family function and look him right in the eyes next time!" - RationalFish
"When we let things like this slide for others, it's not long before it ends up on our doorstep, and of course, nobody says anything because keeping the peace is the norm. It doesn't have to be getting into their face and yelling abuse back. Just a comment such as, 'Well, that's super tacky to say,' or asking them why they'd say that." - Kattnapped
"The OP said, 'He's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years... but this is the first time it was directed to me.'"
"Normalise calling stuff out when they are talking about others, and they won't feel so comfortable saying it to you."
"It's a gross thing for him to say, but I guess him buying you flowers is his way of saying sorry."
"Sounds like you are in the situation of a lot of new mothers, where you suddenly realise this stuff matters because you want better influences for your child, and better support for yourself. NOR." - Jumpy-Jello-
Now, about that shirt...
"Please re-think your decision to never wear the cute shirt again, girl!! It's something that you liked very much because it made you feel good about yourself. Don't let some backwoods id**t ruin that for you."
"Wear that shirt till it's worn out and can't be worn anymore!! You should be able to feel good about yourself in whatever you like to wear."
"Your husband should have immediately checked his father, not waited until he was told to do so after his father left the room. In front of everyone there, your husband should have told his father not to ever speak about you or to you in that kind of manner, and if his father doesn't like it, he knows where the door is."
"Hubby should have called him out for his response as well. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were not the problem; his dad was. This comes down to your husband needing to protect his wife, and he didn't do that." - Lynzo141982
"If he is a redneck, like you said, he won't outright apologize, but flowers are his way of saying sorry."
"I hope he won't say anything again, or else you can expect a nicely tended garden for at least a year."
"About your top, I hope you can wear it again. It takes a lot to feel cute, being a new mum."
"If not, get some fabric dye, dye the top a different color, and embroider a flower on it. This makes the top new, different, and every time you wear it, you can use the mantra ... I'm cute, I don't care what anyone says."
"You've got this!!" - No_Kangaroo_6637
Even if the father-in-law was joking and meant no harm, this is one of those situations where he needs to admit that his joke did not land well, he did cause harm, and he needs to apologize. Just because some people enjoy joking in that manner does not mean that everyone will be comfortable with it, and it's important to respect everyone's boundaries and zones of comfort.