Workplace dynamics can be a tricky thing.
Sometimes you gel with certain coworkers enough that the line between fellow employee and friend can become blurred.
For Redditor emperorsmallhands, a friendly relationship with a male coworker became misconstrued by a new employee, ultimately landing her in HR.
So she turned to the popular subReddit "Am I the A**hole" (AITA) to help figure out if her reaction to the whole situation was justified, asking:
"AITA for avoiding my new coworker after she reported me to HR for having an inside joke about a straight male coworker having a boyfriend?"
The Original Poster (OP) started out by laying out exactly how the inside joke at the center of the controversy came to be.
"I get how I'm probably the a**hole for this, but I guess I just want to know what other people think."
"My coworker Gio (40M(ale)) and I (30F(emale)) have worked together for 6 years and we are good friends. We have this running joke where the two of us refer to his former boss Drew as his boyfriend."
"Drew was a prick to everyone in their team except Gio, he gave him all the good accounts and he even endorsed Gio for a promotion even when Gio only met 70% of his targets. (I don't begrudge Gio any of this since we didn't even belong to the same team when Drew was his boss.)"
"Drew is straight as an arrow, is notorious for being a womanizer and was fired last year for sexual harassment."
"I should clarify that Gio and I refer to Drew as his boyfriend only when it's the two of us who are talking, though our coworkers know the joke because we sometimes talk loudly. Gio is fine with our running joke and also refers to Drew as his boyfriend when we talk."
"For his birthday this year I photoshopped his and Drew's faces into a gay couple's picture and included it in my email greeting to him. He laughed at it for a good half a minute and then forwarded it to several coworkers who also got a kick from it."
But when a new coworker overheard OP and Gio joking, things quickly went south.
"Our new coworker Kate, who has been with the company for 2 weeks, overhead one of my and Gio's conversations where I called Drew Gio's boyfriend so she thought Gio was gay."
"When she mentioned it to our other coworker Cory, Cory told her that Gio is straight, married and has kids, and the thing about Drew being Gio's boyfriend is just a long-time inside joke between me and Gio."
"Kate went straight to HR to complain about me making jokes about Gio's sexuality. HR spoke to me and Gio, who told them that it was a long time inside joke between us that he took part of."
"I was ultimately cleared of any wrongdoing, but it pissed me off that Kate didn't even talk to Gio to ask if there was actually an issue. I've been avoiding her ever since because I honestly don't know what I should even tell her after what she did."
"My boyfriend says I shouldn't be angry at her because she was new and didn't know our inside jokes yet, but my point is that while I understand that while Kate thought she was trying to do a good thing, Cory already told her it was a long-time running joke, and Kate didn't even talk to Gio if her concern is something that she should really be concerned about."
Having laid out her case, it was now up to her fellow Redditors to weigh in on her actions using the following declarations:
- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA - You're The A**hole
- NAH - No A**holes Here
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
The opinion seemed pretty split.
Some thought the OP's reaction was perfectly valid after what Kate did.
"NTA. I'd avoid her too. It's really weird to take that level of offense on someone else's behalf."—rileygreyy
"Yeah after 2 weeks you don't have the lay of the land down enough to make an accusation about an off hand comment about others. At best I would talk to Gio even then I wouldn't rock the boat unless asked 2 weeks into a new job.—Shadyside77
"NTA - Kate needs to grow the hell up. First of all, she's new and should be trying to keep her head down until she has a lay of the land. Second of all, she should have talked to you guys about it first if it offended her. Kate is the a**hole here."—Redditided
"NTA. Avoid her at all costs, but be polite when you do run into her. Instead of talking about it with both of you, she went straight to HR. She needs to fully understand dynamics instead of immediately reporting. She sounds young."—MsBaseball34
"Exactly. If she can't bother talking to either of you about a situation that's none of her business do not engage with her. Do not discuss anything with her and less it is specific to your job. She's quick to run to HR for something that has nothing to do with her, avoid her."—Jenuptoolate
Others didn't think a joke of that nature was appropriate at the office.
"YTA - This will probably be an unpopular opinion, but you're at work. In a professional setting. If her standards are high for professionalism in an office, I'm not surprised to hear that she felt uncomfortable enough to say something to HR."
"I'm gay. If I heard people being silly and joking about being gay I would probably be at least slightly offended. I don't care if you're accepting of gay people or not, your behavior and mockery of it is 1. (Most importantly) Unprofessional and 2. insensitive."
"Feel free to avoid her, but I'd suspect she may want to avoid you anyway since you have sh*tty and insensitive inside jokes that you're willing to 'loudly' toss around an environment that is supposed to be professional."—puppiesforprez2021
"I think that's what a lot of people are missing here."
"The joke doesn't need to be directed at/involve Kate in order for it to make her uncomfortable. If overhearing the joke (through loud voices or shared emails) makes her uncomfortable, that can still construed as a workplace harassment issue."
"Kate could be gay herself, or have been the victim of sexual harassment in the office, either of which could be a reason for this type of joke to make her uncomfortable."
"OP, you are being AH by being unprofessional in your workplace and thinking it only matters if you/Gio care."—Molenium
"YTA - You're at work, you don't make jokes like that. Sure, Gio doesn't mind but, as you've seen, anyone who isn't 'in' on the joke could take offence."
"I'm not saying you can't have any office banter, but this has came across as homophobic 'banter' and that's not appropriate, anywhere."
"Don't avoid Kate. Like someone else said, appearing cold towards her could just make things worse. Cut the 'boyfriend' jokes and get some new work-friendly material."
"Maybe check with HR or your manager to see if this sounds like a good idea, but you could talk to her to clear the air."
"Maybe just say something like 'Hey, I'm sorry we offended you*, we just had this silly inside joke. We didn't realise how it might look to someone new. We'll retire that one and just stick to ribbing each other over [something else].'"
"(Different football teams? TV programmes? What do you talk about when you're not talking about Drew being Gio's boyfriend?). Let her reply, but make a hasty retreat when you can - 'Anyway, I better go [do some work] see you later!' - don't get drawn into a discussion about it."
"*You are sorry you've offended her, right? You don't want to offend people, right? You don't have to agree with why she's offended, but you can still say sorry that it's happened."—Impressive_Big3342
"This is basically the standard Sexual Harassment Seminar answer. YTA OP. Retire the joke (no matter how much you both are fine with it) and rib each other over something else. This type of joke is not standard practice for any work place environment."—peanutbutteroreos
One Redditor, however declared neither the OP nor Kate were the a**hole in this situation.
"NAH. Kate technically did the right thing. Confronting coworkers directly without the input or advice of HR can lead to worse problems."
"Also, some people will laugh and shrug off a joke at their expense even though they are personally uncomfortable with the joke. Gio could have secretly been unhappy with the joke and didn't feel like he could speak out. So, in effect, Kate did the correct thing."
"I'll also add that your joke (implying a sexual attraction being the primary reason a person receives favorable treatment) is problematic so say the least."
"Speaking from personal experience, my coworkers and I have made questionable jokes with each other when we've built a rapport. So I understand your annoyance with Kate's actions."
"You're not the a**hole for feeling uncomfortable. But you would be the a**hole for 'punishing' her by intentionally avoiding her for doing what she thought was the right thing."
"If I were you, I would ask her if we could chat about the joke she overheard. If she's open to a conversation, then explain that you and Gio have a relationship that lends itself to an admittedly bad running joke."
"Tell her that you understand her feelings and hope that the two of you can have a productive work relationship. Don't be that person who doubles down on a bad behavior just because the other party wasn't offended this time."—Robot941
While Reddit had some trouble making a call on this one, the OP could be in for some uncomfortable days ahead if she doesn't attempt to clear the air with her new coworker.















Trans Man Considers Breaking Off Engagement After Fiancé Wants Him To Wear A Dress For Wedding
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A lot of people often say, "Believe people when they tell you who they are the first time."
It's one of life's truest (and ignored) sayings.
Believe a person when they are drunk and spew words as well.
Often, a few drinks will help a person let loose on how they really feel.
And then take note.
Redditor dude-e23 wanted to discuss his experience and get some feedback, so naturally, he came to the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subreddit.
He asked:
The Original Poster (OP) explained:
"Hi, I'm sorry for the potentially bad English; it's not my first language anyway."
"I'm a 26-year-old male who recently got engaged to my fiancè, a 28-year-old male."
"For the sake of the story, I'm going to call him Mark."
"I'm a trans man, and this will be relevant to the story."
"Mark and I have been going out for 4 years, and I wasn't on testosterone when we met, and only started recently."
"Mark had never had any issues with my gender identity; he always respected my pronouns and my gender, or so I thought."
"Recently, we were over at his parents' when the topic of the wedding planning came up."
"His mom asked about our wedding outfits, and Mark, who was a bit drunk at this point, said, 'I want to put (my name) in a dress so SHE can be prepared for HER future wifey duty.'"
"I was stunned, and I could see how uncomfortable his mom was."
"I said we were leaving and took Mark home."
"It happened yesterday, and I'm genuinely thinking of breaking it off."
"I've struggled a lot with my identity, and a big part of my family cut me off after my coming out."
"Right now, Mark is at work, and I pretended to be asleep when he left, but now I can't stop overthinking small details like how he used some feminine term in bed or how he always hated when I cut my hair short."
"But maybe he thought it was funny, and he was too drunk to realize what he was saying."
The OP was left to wonder:
Redditors shared their thoughts on this matter and weighed in on some options to the question, AITA:
Redditors declared that OP was NOT the A-hole.
"Yeah, so it turns out that this isn't the case."
"Please don't marry him."
"He fundamentally doesn't respect who you are."
"And to be honest, this would be a disturbing enough statement if you were a woman."
"You can't tie yourself down to this person." ~ HighRiseCat
"Yes! It would still be icky and questionable for him to say this if OP presented as a CIS female - but the fact that OP is a trans man makes it horrifying. WTF?!" ~ MarionberryOk2874
"NOR. I'm a cisgender, heterosexual married woman, so my experience with dating is very different from yours, but if my fiancé said 'She will be wearing a modest dress to get used to life as a married woman' or 'She needs to wear a low cut dress, so I can see what I'm buying' or anything along those lines, I would have called it off quickly."
"The dismissal of your identity is problematic as hell, but so is the little hint that married life will be radically different and not in a lovely, better way."
"Your wedding attire should reflect you, your identity, your values, comfort, and inspire confidence."
"You deserve that."
"Everyone deserves that." ~ ankareeda
"NOR, have a direct conversation with him about this, and don't get legally entangled with him."
"He shouldn't be thinking this is funny anyway; drunkness is not an excuse here, you're his partner of many years." ~ Fit_Square1322
"If these things that he says are coming out when he's drunk, that probably means he's thinking about these issues of your gender presentation, but he's not telling you what he's thinking."
"He sounds very emotionally immature and not ready for marriage." ~ GreenDirt2
"Bro, drunk words are sober thoughts with the volume turned up."
"Thought it was funny isn’t a defense."
"It’s a confession."
"He told his mom who he actually thinks you are."
"You survived your family cutting you off to live as you."
"You don’t owe anyone a second round of that grief because your fiancé can’t handle pronouns after 4 years." ~ BabydolllVibess
"Oh, my God??!!"
"Dude, that’s crazy. Please dump his as*."
"He clearly doesn’t see you as a man, and if you marry him, you’re resigning yourself to a life of being misgendered, and he’s probably gonna try and detransition you or feminize you (seeing as he wants you to wear a DRESS)."
"Also, I’m a trans dude, and I think it’s important that you hear a fellow trans man say this."
"You need to leave."
"You’re a man, and it’s insane that he’s trying to make you feel like you aren’t."
"The breakup will probably suck, but if you stay with him, it’ll be 100x worse." ~ mothmn_9
"NOR, I’ve learned drunk people usually speak more honestly than they mean to."
"I’d guess his mask slipped off; this is certainly grounds for leaving if he can’t accept who you are as you are." ~ Defiant_Tea_8722
"You’re not overreacting."
"I don’t think he actually respects you and who you are as a person."
"He called you feminine things all throughout your relationship."
"Maybe he never accepted you, and I’m sorry."
"I know that's a lot, but I know you will find someone who actually respects you and cares for you truly." ~ Due_Classic_4090
"Some people would tell you that people say things they don’t mean when they’re drunk. I think that’s BS."
"In my experience, it just removes their filter, and everything they say has an underlying truth to it."
"Knowing your gender identity and what you prefer, his words seem very disrespectful towards you and inconsiderate of your feelings, and being drunk isn’t a good enough excuse."
"If you have doubts, don’t just brush them off; trust your gut." ~ Kitchen_Process_8351
"NOR."
"I’m a cis woman, but my first serious relationship was with a trans man."
"Frankly, he was abusive, and I don’t even like or respect him, but still I would NEVER misgender him, because I sincerely understand that he’s a man."
"And I’m not an a**hole."
"Your partner is an a**hole." ~ tigalicious
"NOR. That’s a major breach of trust."
"Your relationship has gone on long enough for him to know that sh*t isn’t cool and is not a matter to joke over, even if he’s drunk (unless he has a drinking problem, in which case he needs to address that before marriage and work to make amends)." ~ Moist_Drippings
"NOR. It sounds like he might be counting on your gender identity to be 'just a phase' and that after the marriage, he’ll expect you to embody the 'wifely' role fully."
"He isn’t taking you seriously as a man, and it doesn’t sound like he’s actually on board for a homosexual marriage."
"Get out of there!" ~ Amwfgoddess
"NOR. My biggest concern is the potential for abuse - wifey duty?"
"Not even a conservative man says something like that."
"It's a pure trash statement."
"My first marriage was to an addict... 'DRUNKEN WORDS ARE SOBER THOUGHTS!'"
"😔 I'm so sorry. 🫂" ~ pashinates
OP returned with an UPDATE:
"I dont know if this is how you update, but anyway..."
"Mark and I are done."
"He came home from work an hour and a half ago, and I made him dinner so we could eat and talk."
"I told him what he said deeply hurt me, that I felt like he didn't respect me and saw me as a woman."
"He said that until recently he always saw me as a man, even though I'm the more feminine side (whatever that means), but since I've started taking testosterone, he realized he was less attracted to me and started to resent me."
"Which is f**king weird because my appearance didn't even change that much, and that he needed to take the 'lead' of the relationship again."
"By then, I had heard enough."
"I made it clear we were done and that this type of behavior was not okay and that it'll never be okay."
"That he had to go to therapy and work on his insecurities, but that I couldn't stay with him."
"At this point, he was apologizing and almost pleading with me to stay, but I really did not want to stay, so I took all my essentials and called my friend."
"I'm currently waiting for her to pick me up."
"I'm so confused about how someone I loved so much could betray me like that."
"I'll ask my friend and her husband if they can go back to take my other stuff later on because I really don't want to see him."
"I'm safe, my friend set me up in the guest bedroom, and I'm so grateful I have her."
"Mark and his family have been blowing up my phone."
"His mom, bless her heart, has only asked how I was and said that no matter what, she'll always see me as her son and that she's sorry about Mark's behavior, but his dad and brother have been sending me very insulting texts that included slurs."
"Mark threatened to 'go get me,' but luckily, he doesn't know where my friend lives."
"Honestly, I don't even recognize the man I was with."
"I'm thinking about moving to another city where I could live with my cousin until I'm back on my feet, but that's a whole other story."
"I'm planning to keep in contact with Mark's mom, and I'll be meeting up with her on Thursday."
"Thank you so much for opening my eyes and for making me realize Mark's behavior was not normal."
This is such a heartbreaking story.
So sorry you had to go through this, OP.
Reddit is loudly 1000% with you.
It's wonderful that you have love and support.
Stay strong.