Living your life one way, then revealing that your truth is something else, is always a difficult process.
You are destroying the person people thought you were and replacing that idea with a new version of yourself that they don't know or understand.
A painful, lengthy process begins and there will be repercussions.
The challenge is to navigate this process with grace, dignity and compassion for everyone involved.
Unfortunately, not everyone views this in terms of other people and sometimes they use their change in lifestyle to hurt someone else.
So, how do you deal with that?
This was the issue facing Redditor and Original Poster (OP) Ecstatic_Apricot when she came to the "Am I the A**hole" (AITA) subReddit for judgment.
She asked:
"AITA for disowning my brother when he came out as gay, because of how he's treating his wife?"
She started out with a history.
"I (21 female) have a brother (28) who came out as gay last month."
"He has been married to my best friend's big sister (24) for four years, they have 2yo twin daughters together."
"I'm really close with her, so I've been trying to stay neutral in what has become a messy separation."
She then began detailing the problems.
"My brother told his wife he's gay by sitting her down, and saying he had been sleeping with two different men for about six months."
"He said he is now sure that he feels romantic feelings for men, and also told her he has been sleeping with random men from Grindr for over a year behind her back."
"She obviously freaked out, asked him how he could do this, why didn't he tell her when he started having the feelings, etc."
"He said that he's always thought he was gay but he didn't want to come out because it might affect his career."
"She asked him what about the effect on her life?"
"She is now a single mother to two toddlers."
"He was essentially very angry that she wasn't supportive of this, so he kicked her out of the house, with the kids."
"After she eventually found a place to stay, my brother moved in one of the men he has been having an affair with."
"Since then, he has had very little contact with the kids, as in speaking to them on the phone once a week maybe."
"He has expressed that he still doesn't want to be public about coming out, so he posted on Facebook that he has separated from his wife because they aren't in love anymore and hinted SHE was the unfaithful one."
"(Posting things like 'yeah, seems like someone in this relationship wasn't satisfied with just one man') and is basically being a d*ck.
"I told him a couple weeks ago that he's a f*cking a**hole and I don't want to be involved with him anymore because I think it's disgusting that he's treated his wife like this."
"I told him I get that you have to come out in your own time, but you don't need to kick her out, ignore your kids and berate her, and you don't need to make comments that people will assume mean she was being unfaithful."
"(He said this was a joke about him having two partners now? still f*cked up)."
"He said I'm being a homophobic a**hole, and that I don't know how hard it is to come out."
"He said that if I don't accept him, I'm a bigot."
"He made mistakes and what not."
"I said maybe I will forgive him if he improves his behaviour to his wife, and he said he resents her for keeping him from sleeping with men for years."
"I gave up at this point. My sisters (17&24) both think I'm being homophobic, my mom agrees with me."
OP was left to wonder,
"AITA?"
Having explained the situation, OP turned to Reddit for judgment.
Redditors weighed in by declaring:
- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA - You're The A**hole
- NAH - No A**holes Here
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
Redditors decided: NTA
Many pointed out that this was not about sexuality.
"NTA."
"You didn't disown your brother for being gay. You disowned him for being an unfaithful, selfish a**hole."
"Big difference." ~ bethfromHR
"The title is honestly misleading, it really has nothing to do with him being gay beyond the brother apparently using that as justification for his behavior, which is just gross." ~ TessyDuck
"Because it’s all about him and his needs."
"He seems to think that he is the victim here and that he is owed a pass to be a giant d*ck."
"Has your brother always been selfish? Or is this new behavior?" ~ MsDean1911
"By sort out his new lifestyle he means a life of being single and having no responsibilities like having children."
"He's using his sexuality to try and shield himself from his sh*tty behavior."
"He's not an a**hole for being gay."
"He's not an a**hole for wanting to leave his wife because of that. It's the moral thing to do. Both for him and for her."
"But damn does everything else in this story make him an a**hole." ~ RazorRamonReigns
"I’m gay and I agree."
"The brother is a selfish a**hole."
"Not because he’s gay, not because he felt he had to leave his wife; because he cheated on her a lot, treated her and his kids like sh*t."
"Sometimes gay people are deeply closeted and get married to someone of a different gender."
"It sucks, and there’s inevitably hurt when it comes to light."
"That may be awful, but it happens, it’s understandable, and it’s necessary to be a decent human during the process."
"Cheating is sh*tty behavior."
"It’s a betrayal. Refusing to be there for your kids is shitty behavior, and is also a betrayal."
"Being gay and closeted is an awful feeling, but doesn’t absolve people for their responsibility to be decent humans." ~ The-Shattering-Light
Some worried about the kids involved.
"NTA"
"Your brother is family and this must hurt you a lot being caught in the middle but I would say that his behaviour is not acceptable."
"I have known men who have come out in their later years but their priority has always been the children."
"At the end of the day, being a parent should always come first and he seems to have forgotten this."
"Coming out would be a scary thing for anybody, but destroying his relationship with his kids? That’s far worse" ~ Peemo83
Others talked about responsibility.
"NTA."
"Him coming out does not absolve him because he’s a f*cking adult."
"What he did was shitty and he’s incredibly selfish. This is someone i would absolutely cut out of my life."
"His wife and kids deserved SO much better and I hope they’ll be able to move on from this without too much trouble."
"Good luck!" ~ descolero
"NTA."
"He's making it about him being gay, which you don't actually seem to have a problem with."
"The issue is that he cheated on his wife repeatedly, then kicked her and their toddler children of the marital home, and then had to audacity to lead people to believe she was the one who cheated."
"He's using 'homophobic' to guilt-trip you, as if coming out as gay excuses all the horrible things he's doing along his journey."
"He chose to marry her and father those babies, he needs to treat them with a modicum of respect and tact while he figures out his new life" ~ koifishyfishy
"I have to give a big YES to this, he's incredibly fucking selfish."
"He's using his coming out as gay, as a weapon in his victim mentality."
"Edit: I mean HE has been having an affair for a YEAR and kicks HER out of the house?"
"Seriously!?" ~ Kinlance
There were also a few personal stories.
"When they divorced, my parents had a weird fucking argument over custody."
"My mother wanted the kids, because my father was a terribly selfish man. My father wanted to... not pay child support, so he insisted that he should have the kids."
"My mother simply pointed out that having custody of the kids actually meant also like... taking care of them? And providing for them daily? Those are human being?"
"To which my father said 'Huh well you can have them then!', skipped the custody hearing and went to play golf instead"
"This was not a long custody hearing" ~ Tauposaurus
There were also health concerns to consider.
"He is incredibly selfish. Honestly she should get tested as soon as possible."
"He’s been sleeping with multiple people behind her back and does not seem to care about her wellbeing at all." ~ laurenquad
"Not to mention the potential health risks for the wife assuming they were still somehow sexually active during the year he was having random Grindr hook ups."
"It's obviously possible to have safe anonymous sex, but this guy doesn't scream responsibility."
"Jesus christ" ~ Rikey_Doodle
"Also it sounds like he has had multiple partners."
"So she may want to consider getting tested at the very least."
"If your in contact with her let her know she should. Based on where you are some health departments can work with her and may even do it free." ~ TopPush7
Discovering and naming your truth - whether it's a change in gender, sexuality or anything else - can be a liberating, wonderful and tragic experience.
There are responsibilities, though, that come with having relationships.
Those duties include kindness and respect and compassion, no matter the transitions happening in your own life.
Above all, always, be kind.















Trans Man Considers Breaking Off Engagement After Fiancé Wants Him To Wear A Dress For Wedding
KimJane Photography/GettyImages
A lot of people often say, "Believe people when they tell you who they are the first time."
It's one of life's truest (and ignored) sayings.
Believe a person when they are drunk and spew words as well.
Often, a few drinks will help a person let loose on how they really feel.
And then take note.
Redditor dude-e23 wanted to discuss his experience and get some feedback, so naturally, he came to the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subreddit.
He asked:
The Original Poster (OP) explained:
"Hi, I'm sorry for the potentially bad English; it's not my first language anyway."
"I'm a 26-year-old male who recently got engaged to my fiancè, a 28-year-old male."
"For the sake of the story, I'm going to call him Mark."
"I'm a trans man, and this will be relevant to the story."
"Mark and I have been going out for 4 years, and I wasn't on testosterone when we met, and only started recently."
"Mark had never had any issues with my gender identity; he always respected my pronouns and my gender, or so I thought."
"Recently, we were over at his parents' when the topic of the wedding planning came up."
"His mom asked about our wedding outfits, and Mark, who was a bit drunk at this point, said, 'I want to put (my name) in a dress so SHE can be prepared for HER future wifey duty.'"
"I was stunned, and I could see how uncomfortable his mom was."
"I said we were leaving and took Mark home."
"It happened yesterday, and I'm genuinely thinking of breaking it off."
"I've struggled a lot with my identity, and a big part of my family cut me off after my coming out."
"Right now, Mark is at work, and I pretended to be asleep when he left, but now I can't stop overthinking small details like how he used some feminine term in bed or how he always hated when I cut my hair short."
"But maybe he thought it was funny, and he was too drunk to realize what he was saying."
The OP was left to wonder:
Redditors shared their thoughts on this matter and weighed in on some options to the question, AITA:
Redditors declared that OP was NOT the A-hole.
"Yeah, so it turns out that this isn't the case."
"Please don't marry him."
"He fundamentally doesn't respect who you are."
"And to be honest, this would be a disturbing enough statement if you were a woman."
"You can't tie yourself down to this person." ~ HighRiseCat
"Yes! It would still be icky and questionable for him to say this if OP presented as a CIS female - but the fact that OP is a trans man makes it horrifying. WTF?!" ~ MarionberryOk2874
"NOR. I'm a cisgender, heterosexual married woman, so my experience with dating is very different from yours, but if my fiancé said 'She will be wearing a modest dress to get used to life as a married woman' or 'She needs to wear a low cut dress, so I can see what I'm buying' or anything along those lines, I would have called it off quickly."
"The dismissal of your identity is problematic as hell, but so is the little hint that married life will be radically different and not in a lovely, better way."
"Your wedding attire should reflect you, your identity, your values, comfort, and inspire confidence."
"You deserve that."
"Everyone deserves that." ~ ankareeda
"NOR, have a direct conversation with him about this, and don't get legally entangled with him."
"He shouldn't be thinking this is funny anyway; drunkness is not an excuse here, you're his partner of many years." ~ Fit_Square1322
"If these things that he says are coming out when he's drunk, that probably means he's thinking about these issues of your gender presentation, but he's not telling you what he's thinking."
"He sounds very emotionally immature and not ready for marriage." ~ GreenDirt2
"Bro, drunk words are sober thoughts with the volume turned up."
"Thought it was funny isn’t a defense."
"It’s a confession."
"He told his mom who he actually thinks you are."
"You survived your family cutting you off to live as you."
"You don’t owe anyone a second round of that grief because your fiancé can’t handle pronouns after 4 years." ~ BabydolllVibess
"Oh, my God??!!"
"Dude, that’s crazy. Please dump his as*."
"He clearly doesn’t see you as a man, and if you marry him, you’re resigning yourself to a life of being misgendered, and he’s probably gonna try and detransition you or feminize you (seeing as he wants you to wear a DRESS)."
"Also, I’m a trans dude, and I think it’s important that you hear a fellow trans man say this."
"You need to leave."
"You’re a man, and it’s insane that he’s trying to make you feel like you aren’t."
"The breakup will probably suck, but if you stay with him, it’ll be 100x worse." ~ mothmn_9
"NOR, I’ve learned drunk people usually speak more honestly than they mean to."
"I’d guess his mask slipped off; this is certainly grounds for leaving if he can’t accept who you are as you are." ~ Defiant_Tea_8722
"You’re not overreacting."
"I don’t think he actually respects you and who you are as a person."
"He called you feminine things all throughout your relationship."
"Maybe he never accepted you, and I’m sorry."
"I know that's a lot, but I know you will find someone who actually respects you and cares for you truly." ~ Due_Classic_4090
"Some people would tell you that people say things they don’t mean when they’re drunk. I think that’s BS."
"In my experience, it just removes their filter, and everything they say has an underlying truth to it."
"Knowing your gender identity and what you prefer, his words seem very disrespectful towards you and inconsiderate of your feelings, and being drunk isn’t a good enough excuse."
"If you have doubts, don’t just brush them off; trust your gut." ~ Kitchen_Process_8351
"NOR."
"I’m a cis woman, but my first serious relationship was with a trans man."
"Frankly, he was abusive, and I don’t even like or respect him, but still I would NEVER misgender him, because I sincerely understand that he’s a man."
"And I’m not an a**hole."
"Your partner is an a**hole." ~ tigalicious
"NOR. That’s a major breach of trust."
"Your relationship has gone on long enough for him to know that sh*t isn’t cool and is not a matter to joke over, even if he’s drunk (unless he has a drinking problem, in which case he needs to address that before marriage and work to make amends)." ~ Moist_Drippings
"NOR. It sounds like he might be counting on your gender identity to be 'just a phase' and that after the marriage, he’ll expect you to embody the 'wifely' role fully."
"He isn’t taking you seriously as a man, and it doesn’t sound like he’s actually on board for a homosexual marriage."
"Get out of there!" ~ Amwfgoddess
"NOR. My biggest concern is the potential for abuse - wifey duty?"
"Not even a conservative man says something like that."
"It's a pure trash statement."
"My first marriage was to an addict... 'DRUNKEN WORDS ARE SOBER THOUGHTS!'"
"😔 I'm so sorry. 🫂" ~ pashinates
OP returned with an UPDATE:
"I dont know if this is how you update, but anyway..."
"Mark and I are done."
"He came home from work an hour and a half ago, and I made him dinner so we could eat and talk."
"I told him what he said deeply hurt me, that I felt like he didn't respect me and saw me as a woman."
"He said that until recently he always saw me as a man, even though I'm the more feminine side (whatever that means), but since I've started taking testosterone, he realized he was less attracted to me and started to resent me."
"Which is f**king weird because my appearance didn't even change that much, and that he needed to take the 'lead' of the relationship again."
"By then, I had heard enough."
"I made it clear we were done and that this type of behavior was not okay and that it'll never be okay."
"That he had to go to therapy and work on his insecurities, but that I couldn't stay with him."
"At this point, he was apologizing and almost pleading with me to stay, but I really did not want to stay, so I took all my essentials and called my friend."
"I'm currently waiting for her to pick me up."
"I'm so confused about how someone I loved so much could betray me like that."
"I'll ask my friend and her husband if they can go back to take my other stuff later on because I really don't want to see him."
"I'm safe, my friend set me up in the guest bedroom, and I'm so grateful I have her."
"Mark and his family have been blowing up my phone."
"His mom, bless her heart, has only asked how I was and said that no matter what, she'll always see me as her son and that she's sorry about Mark's behavior, but his dad and brother have been sending me very insulting texts that included slurs."
"Mark threatened to 'go get me,' but luckily, he doesn't know where my friend lives."
"Honestly, I don't even recognize the man I was with."
"I'm thinking about moving to another city where I could live with my cousin until I'm back on my feet, but that's a whole other story."
"I'm planning to keep in contact with Mark's mom, and I'll be meeting up with her on Thursday."
"Thank you so much for opening my eyes and for making me realize Mark's behavior was not normal."
This is such a heartbreaking story.
So sorry you had to go through this, OP.
Reddit is loudly 1000% with you.
It's wonderful that you have love and support.
Stay strong.