Children are a lot of hard work. Anyone who isn't up for a 24/7/365 responsibility should make sure they don't become a parent.
But once that decision is made, they're committed for at least the next 18 years. While they can ask for help, no one is obligated to provide it.
A grandmother whose daughter thinks she's an unpaid childcare employee turned to the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subReddit for feedback.
ThrowRASanbuche asked:
"AITA for not wanting to take care of my granddaughter for free?"
The original poster (OP) explained:
"My daughter decided to get married a year after finishing high school. My husband and I didn't understand that decision but she was totally convinced and so was her husband."
"My daughter became a housewife (by her own decision) and got pregnant soon after, since her husband works she spent a lot of the pregnancy at my house which did not seem a problem to me. Then my granddaughter was born and she kept coming often, which didn't seem like a problem to me either."
"But then she started leaving me her baby longer and getting upset when I told her I can't take care of her. I understand that being a mother is difficult, I raised four children, but that does not mean that everyone should be at my feet because of a decision I made."
"My daughter started asking me on the weekends to babysit because she and her husband wanted to go out. I agreed for about three weeks until my husband and I had our own plans."
"My daughter went crazy and called me to tell me that I should be more empathetic with her because she is a mother and never leaves the house."
"I felt bad that day so my husband and I decided to babysit on the weekends, but to be honest we're tired. We love our children? Yes. But our plan at this age was to get back to being just us and go to dates together."
"We even had to delay our vacation because of our daughter. We adore our daughter, but she is now an adult and we don't want to raise any children anymore. We have other grandchildren who we love as well, but we have never had this problem with my other children."
"Not to mention, my granddaughter is now older and more active, caring for a newborn is one thing, but it's totally different chasing a baby who has already learned to crawl. My husband has a limp and I have a hard time bending over, so it's hard for us to take care of the baby."
"I talked to my daughter about this and she complained saying it's only two days a week to which to make a point I said 'Okay, then pay us like you pay the babysitter' (she hired a babysitter a few weeks ago)."
"I told her that at this point I feel that she only uses me as a free babysitter because lately she only comes to make me take care of the baby and that's where my daughter went crazy, totally offended."
"Although it's the truth, she doesn't even come to dinner or to visit me, she just brings the baby for me to babysit and I feel used."
"According to her it's really horrible of me to want to charge her to take care of my own granddaughter, it made me wonder if she's right."
"No, my husband and I didn't have anyone's help raising our children. I don't know why so many young people believe that life used to be easy."
"Years ago, in my country it was even frowned upon for a mother to leave her child in childcare and go to work. Now it's not easy to be a parent either, but it never was."
The OP summed up why they might be the a**hole in their situation.
"Not wanting to take care of my granddaughter or wanting my daughter to pay for my time. Taking care of my newborn granddaughter was beautiful, but chasing a crawling baby around the house is really tiring."
Redditors weighed in by declaring:
- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA - You're The A**hole
- NAH - No A**holes Here
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
Redditors decided the OP was not the a**hole (NTA).
"NTA. While it is super nice for parents to have grandparents available to look after their grandkids occasionally for free, it is completely different for your daughter to expect you to regularly babysit every weekend so she can go out and do fun things without at all offering to do anything for you (e.g. pay you)."
"She is not being considerate of the fact that you and your husband also have lives outside of your granddaughter, the same as her and her husband, which means you can't (and shouldn't) always be available for free labour."
"If she needs weekends off with her husband, she needs to find someone to babysit her kid that isn't just a family member being exploited."
"Of course, you can still look after the child sometimes and get the opportunity to bond with your granddaughter, but that should be treated as that. Bonding time on your terms, not babysitting time on your daughter's terms." ~ Complex_Yam2790
"I do not mind a date night now and then, but when it is regular (child care for 3 months while they were awaiting slot in preschool), I charge and daughter happily pays. We raised our kids—it's the parents turn to raise theirs." ~ LingonberryPrior6896
"The first thing my father said to me when I had my first was the same thing his father had said to him when I was born: 'I am a grandparent NOT a babysitter.'"
"OP, you need to tell your daughter that you know EXACTLY how hard it is to be a mother because you raised her, and now it's your turn to have a life, just like it's her turn to prioritize her children over herself as a parent."
"You have done your job raising kids. If she wanted to have 'a life' and prioritize dates with her husband, she shouldn't have had kids." ~ Environmental_Art591
"Expecting OP to babysit all weekend, every weekend is ridiculous. That's exploitation, and it's inconsiderate as well. It means she's putting her mom in a situation where she can never make plans on the weekend."
"Asking every once in a while for a few hours to go on a date is one thing, but forcing someone else to raise your child without any compensation, every weekend, is quite another."
"OP has got to set some firm boundaries about how long and how often they're willing to babysit, or she will continue to be used. You want to be able to enjoy time with your grandkids, not feel like it's a job." ~ TopProfessional1862
"NTA. I raised 3 kids. I know how hard it is, and I was lucky to have in-laws who would babysit at the drop of a hat. But maybe that's because I didn't ask them every weekend."
"This is your daughter and son-in-law's responsibility. It's their child. You are under no obligation to become weekend parents to your granddaughter."
"Say NO. Let your daughter have her meltdown, but don't give in. Say NO a few weeks in a row. Make her understand that your time is as important to you as her time is to her."
"Maybe set a schedule with your daughter. Tell her you will keep your granddaughter one Saturday night a month. That's it. Your daughter is being entitled and ridiculous." ~ Jenk1972
"When our daughter had her first child, we were super excited to help any way we could. When our daughter went back to work, I had our grandchild one day a week and loved every second."
"Moving on 6 years and our grandson was born, and I offered to help again—obviously I'm a little older and time wears us all, but this time it was for two days and two children (a newborn and a 6-year-old)."
"This very quickly became too much for me, and I had an honest conversation with my daughter. She fully understood and changed her needs to suit mine."
"She was grateful for any help I gave."
"Your daughter is ungrateful and selfish. Decline to help at all until she appreciates it." ~ Upstairs_Essay_7349
"NTA. People don't really understand the all-encompassing nature of being a parent. They're shocked to discover that spontaneity is dead and buried once you have a child."
"If they want to go out with their spouse, they are now depending entirely on the goodwill or paid availability of somebody else to enable it. This sudden loss of freedom is so jarring and sudden that many people are unable to accept it."
"They have never been restricted before and it's completely unfair that they should be now. It is their right to go out and, therefore, somebody else's duty to make it happen."
"Well, tough."
"Whether or not they entirely understood what they were getting into, they're in it now. Don't get to go out when they want? What a shame.
"Nobody was prepared to alter their lives to their own detriment so they can have some fun? How terrible for them."
"Again, NTA. This is the deal. This is what happens when people decide to have kids. Your daughter decided to become a mother and now she has to act like one?"
"Bummer. Not your problem." ~ WestLondonIsOursFFC
Family can help a great deal with childcare, but no one is obligated to care for a child free of charge other than the parents of that child.
OP's daughter decided the favor she was being given was really a requirement her parents owed her. So the best solution seems to be to stop helping until their daughter develops an attitude of gratitude to replace her entitlement.
















New Mom Irate After Father-In-Law Ruins Her Birthday With 'Vulgar' Comment About Her Breasts
There's nothing quite like the feeling of going through all the work to prepare a fun celebration, just for someone to undo it with an unkind or gross comment.
That feeling just gets worse when it's your birthday, and that comment was made by someone who's supposed to care about you, sympathized the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Rude-Pepper-2389 had recently given birth and decided to have a special birthday celebration to reconnect with her loved ones after becoming a mom.
When her father-in-law stopped by unexpectedly and then made comments about her body, the Original Poster (OP) was left so uncomfortable that it ruined the whole celebration for her.
She asked the sub:
The OP wanted to have a special birthday celebration after her baby was born.
"I currently have a five-month-old and haven’t really been taking care of myself or dressing up since having the baby."
"It’s my (25 Female) birthday, and we were having friends over at our house for a private dinner to celebrate."
"My husband (24 Male) and I have been together since we were 18."
"I decided to put on this new silk shirt I got, which, admittedly, was low-cut, but I felt cute in it and felt comfortable around the friends we were having over."
Everything was fine until the OP's father-in-law (FIL) stopped by unexpectedly.
"My husband's dad decided to stop by on his way home from work."
"I will say, he was likely drunk. He works two hours away and proudly told my husband he's down to only four beers on his drive home each day... so, that's healthy."
"When he came in, I was on the couch with my baby propped up beside me, bottle feeding him. Keep in mind, I am not breastfeeding, so no, my breasts are not any larger right now."
"My husband's dad leaned down to look at the baby and then suddenly shouted, 'D**n, son, she could knock you out with those things in bed! Like cracking two coconuts together.'"
"This was fully and undoubtedly in reference to my breasts."
The OP was shocked by the comment and very uncomfortable.
"It made me deeply uncomfortable and embarrassed."
"I was so stunned, I couldn’t even process what he said to me, and our friends just stared at me, blinking."
"He’s a redneck, so he's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years, but this just seems to take the cake, as it was the first time it was directed at me."
"When he stepped out, I told my husband he needed to speak to him, and that the comment wasn’t okay."
"I went to change clothes and decided to never ever wear that shirt again."
"When I brought it up to my husband, he said he didn't hear the comment at first, but then he laughed when I told him what he said. He's always laughed when he feels awkward and has always had a hard time standing up to his parents in any capacity."
"When he and my father-in-law spoke, my FIL just said, 'I shouldn’t have said that to her, I know how she can be,' which just feels even more like I’m just being dramatic."
"Since then, I think my husband just wants me to drop it and move on, truthfully."
The OP wasn't sure what to do after what happened.
"This genuinely ruined my entire night. Am I just too sensitive, or was this an inappropriate thing to say?"
"There's also been no apology since then. This happened on Thursday, and then my father-in-law came by again on Friday with flowers to wish me a happy Mother's Day before Mother's Day Sunday."
"I think that was his way of trying to just breeze past the awkwardness. He's never gotten me a gift the whole seven years I've known him, so the flowers were odd. But I still feel really uncomfortable."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that her father-in-law's comments were rude and just plain creepy.
"NOR at all. That was really rude of him. Anyone would be offended." - Bookbringer
"NOR. That’s firmly in the category of what should be an 'inside thought,' and we should learn what those are at a much younger age than this guy is."
"F**king h**l, this is an absolutely mental thing to say out loud, let alone to your daughter-in-law." - Electronic-Fennel828
"FIL is an AH. I love that you think his being a redneck excuses it, but d**n. Even rednecks should know better than to speak that way to their son's wife."
"What does your husband have to say? Does he understand how breath-takingly rude his father was, or is he Team 'That's Just How He Is'?"
"I'd go very low contact with the old perv. NOR, he put you in an uncomfortable position with his crude remark. Is he married? I'd tell the MIL. I'd tell the whole family. Yes, it's embarrassing, but he is the one who should be embarrassed. Don't accept his non-apology." - Top-Bit85
"Maybe I’m desensitized after having large breasts since I was 13 (I’m 28 now), but I let out a little snort based on how immature of a joke it was. I’d simply tell FIL, 'Yes, I know, my boobs are big,' and move on."
"That said, I would never make such a comment about another person's body. Just because I'm technically fine with it doesn't mean I assume anyone else is!"
"Not everyone is the same, and if OP felt uncomfortable, she’s NOR. Her body, her boundaries." - Both_Original2094
"I’m sorry. That’s upsetting. My father is like this with his father. Even if it’s very offensive comments, he’s uncomfortable and has problems confronting him. It sounds like your husband isn’t going to have a talk with him, which is hurtful."
"I would explain to your husband how uncomfortable the situation was for you and that it’s a serious matter, especially if it happens again. And if he still tries to brush it off, then I would tell him you no longer want your FIL coming to your home."
"It’s your life, too, and he’s not the one being hurt here, you are." - w_coastultraviolence
Others were specifically angry about the tactics the father-in-law used to try to get out of trouble.
"Seriously? Saying 'I know how she can be' is a classic way to blame the victim for having boundaries. It’s your birthday, not a Hooters convention. What a creep. If he can’t look at the baby without checking out your breast, he shouldn't be invited to the house." - Specific_Parsnip3264
"'I know how she can be' is so f**ked up. He's the one being a disgusting person. You need to shine up your husband's spine to properly call him out at the time next time, because there will be a next time." - dancepantz
"The bit that pisses me off the most is, 'I know how she can be,' which is his way of making it her problem that she doesn't like her FiL sexualising her in front of her friends." - Outside-Partait-8935
"The 'joke' comment is gross, but that follow-up comment is infuriating. NOR, OP. But this guy will be in your life for a while, so firmly & calmly shutting this stuff down is completely appropriate."
"I'd wear the d**n shirt again to the next family function and look him right in the eyes next time!" - RationalFish
"When we let things like this slide for others, it's not long before it ends up on our doorstep, and of course, nobody says anything because keeping the peace is the norm. It doesn't have to be getting into their face and yelling abuse back. Just a comment such as, 'Well, that's super tacky to say,' or asking them why they'd say that." - Kattnapped
"The OP said, 'He's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years... but this is the first time it was directed to me.'"
"Normalise calling stuff out when they are talking about others, and they won't feel so comfortable saying it to you."
"It's a gross thing for him to say, but I guess him buying you flowers is his way of saying sorry."
"Sounds like you are in the situation of a lot of new mothers, where you suddenly realise this stuff matters because you want better influences for your child, and better support for yourself. NOR." - Jumpy-Jello-
Now, about that shirt...
"Please re-think your decision to never wear the cute shirt again, girl!! It's something that you liked very much because it made you feel good about yourself. Don't let some backwoods id**t ruin that for you."
"Wear that shirt till it's worn out and can't be worn anymore!! You should be able to feel good about yourself in whatever you like to wear."
"Your husband should have immediately checked his father, not waited until he was told to do so after his father left the room. In front of everyone there, your husband should have told his father not to ever speak about you or to you in that kind of manner, and if his father doesn't like it, he knows where the door is."
"Hubby should have called him out for his response as well. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were not the problem; his dad was. This comes down to your husband needing to protect his wife, and he didn't do that." - Lynzo141982
"If he is a redneck, like you said, he won't outright apologize, but flowers are his way of saying sorry."
"I hope he won't say anything again, or else you can expect a nicely tended garden for at least a year."
"About your top, I hope you can wear it again. It takes a lot to feel cute, being a new mum."
"If not, get some fabric dye, dye the top a different color, and embroider a flower on it. This makes the top new, different, and every time you wear it, you can use the mantra ... I'm cute, I don't care what anyone says."
"You've got this!!" - No_Kangaroo_6637
Even if the father-in-law was joking and meant no harm, this is one of those situations where he needs to admit that his joke did not land well, he did cause harm, and he needs to apologize. Just because some people enjoy joking in that manner does not mean that everyone will be comfortable with it, and it's important to respect everyone's boundaries and zones of comfort.