Boundaries are a necessity in relationships to avoid confrontation, anger and upset.
People who refuse to honor other people's boundaries are either addicted to the chaos they create or just inconsiderate of others.
If a person disagrees with or dislikes another person's boundaries, they can discuss it, but ultimately everyone is entitled to their own boundaries. Don't like them? A person can always end a relationship or limit contact.
But plowing over or ignoring other people's boundaries is a definite a**hole move.
A woman whose in-laws run roughshod over her and her husband turned to the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subReddit for feedback.
Glittering_Way4037 asked:
"AITA for leaving without explanation after my mother-in-law (MIL) pretended not to hear me?"
The original poster (OP) explained:
"I (32, female) have a 7-month-old daughter with my husband (34, male).
"My country does ensure a long maternity leave for up to 2 years, however I am self employed and cannot afford to lose my clients so I try to work while my daughter is sleeping and during the weekends."
"Lately she's been teething so I'm operating on little to no sleep."
"I have an issue with my MIL. She does what she wants despite people asking her not to and then says 'oops' or denies doing it."
"She does this to everyone more or less. She's the kind of person who touches stuff at a museum and attempts to feed wild birds despite signs advising otherwise."
"My husband does have a sister, but she's lived abroad for ~15 years and I've only seen her twice. They are not close and she only calls her parents on Christmas and birthdays as far as I know—or at least that's what MIL says."
"As for FIL, he's not reasonable. He's a typical older man who demands respect everywhere he goes and is upset when he sees a person with an unusual hair colour."
"Anyway, things like that. It was annoying before the baby, but after she was born it has become insufferable."
"Husband talked to her and set boundaries, so she stopped doing that when my husband is present, but she was still doing it when it's only me in the room. So we agreed she cannot visit when husband is not at home and husband is not to leave me alone with her."
"Because of these boundaries, we did not see them for 1.5 months."
"They live 2 hours away and we did not find a mutually good time. They finally came over last Sunday."
"20 minutes into the visit my father-in-law (FIL) wants to see a lawnmower that has broken down, so my husband goes into the backyard with him, leaving me, the baby and MIL inside."
"She's drinking coffee and eating cake. She sits next to my daughter on her playmat and tries to feed her some of her cake."
"I immediately told her 'no, she can't have that'. MIL pretends not to hear me and proceeds putting her spoon to my daughter's closed mouth."
"I can assure you her hearing is just fine."
"She has no trouble 'accidentally' overhearing me and my husband very quietly talking behind closed doors."
"I repeat 'stop doing that, she can't have cake yet and definitely not from your spoon'. Still she pretends not to hear me."
"I also think this was deliberate. Not the cake feeding part because this was expected of her, she told me to give my daughter water and tea at 3 weeks, so I'm not surprised honestly."
"But the pretending not to hear me part was definitely intentional and probably some kind of a power play."
"I repeat it again, still nothing and now there's cake on my baby's face and she's fussing. So I grab my daughter and go to my husband and FIL, subtly gesturing him to come back inside."
"After about 5 minutes MIL decided to go outside too and was approaching me and the baby. I gestured to my husband again and he made an annoyed face."
"Had I interrupted FIL's monologue, my husband would be 10 times more pissed with me. I did what I could to avoid open confrontation with his parents because he can't handle it."
"This is the exact reason why we agreed he is to be in the same room at all times when MIL is visiting. If he's not, she tries to pull something like this and he finds it easier to just always be there rather than address the issue again and stick with the boundaries that were communicated."
"I had no energy to deal with any of this so I stood up, went inside, grabbed baby bag and car keys and went to the car without saying a word. MIL asked me where I was going and I ignored her."
"I drove to my sister's, which is about a 15 minute drive. There were some missed calls from my husband, so I texted him where we were and that we'll be back in the evening."
"Had I stayed, I would have probably slapped MIL because I simply do not have the energy to deal with her sh*t anymore."
"Had I stayed at home and locked myself in the bedroom until husband finished talking to FIL, she would come banging at the door. So I just went where I knew I would feel comfortable."
"I texted him where I was and when we're coming back 15 minutes after I left."
"It was time for my daughter's nap and she fell asleep breastfeeding so my sister told me to go sleep too. After she woke up and had her milk my sister took her and told me to go back to sleep."
"I slept ~3hrs in total. My phone was on silent, so my husband's calls were ignored and apparently his parents left disappointed and MIL cried."
"Even if my phone was on silent later on when I was sleeping, he knew how to get a hold of me. He has my sister's, her husband's and even their oldest kid's numbers."
"My husband is furious I did this. We're still fighting about it."
"He can't believe I was so rude and took the baby away when his parents came to see her after such a long time. He's angry I couldn't have waited a few minutes so that he could finish talking about the lawnmower."
"He doesn't even care about that lawnmower, he's not interested in fixing things at all. But his dad is and he just couldn't say no or interrupt him to handle the MIL situation."
"Parents can't be rude to their children, not in the in laws world anyway. He agrees her behaviour is unacceptable, but somehow in his mind it's expected and 'just how things are'."
"After I let him know we were not coming back until the evening, his mother started to cry because she 'missed the baby so much and I took her away after they drove all this way'. His dad then yelled at him, that's why he kept calling me."
"He knew where I was and could have called my sister if he really needed to get hold of me. Him not doing that indicates it was either not important enough or, more likely, he was ashamed of not being able to handle MIL again and did not want to talk to my sister."
"After they realised I was serious and not coming back, his dad scolded him for failing to be 'the head of the household' and soon after that they left. That's what he told me but I'm sure there was more."
"What he really does not like is that me leaving escalated the situation and now he'll have to handle it instead of keeping on pretending everything is fine."
"He knew damn well what was going on. This was not the first or the second time his mother was doing stuff like that."
"He didn't know the details of the incident, but he 100% knew what was going on when I indicated he needed to come back inside."
"I told him I'm too exhausted to deal with this sh*t. He left me alone with MIL despite our agreement (be it only 10 minutes) so I left."
"She can come but I won't be there, that's what I told him. And neither will our daughter because I can't trust MIL not to feed her crap."
"Next time she could try to give her a sip of wine for all I know, after all she admitted to rubbing whiskey on her children's gums to alleviate teething pain and thought it would be relevant to mention this suggestion because my baby is teething."
"Husband kind of agrees with all this and seems to understand where I'm coming from, but keeps saying I can't just leave when they come because 'rude'. It's infuriating really."
"I know how it's going to be. He's going to choose my side and then play the victim each time I'm not OK with his parents stomping on our boundaries."
"All because he finds it so hard to say 'no' to them because 'impolite' and 'disrespectful'. Even though he fully agrees with me and has been complaining about his parents' behaviour for YEARS."
"He does agree with me, that's the most annoying part. He just can't say no to his parents and is pissed that telling his mother about the boundary once was not enough."
"I did what I could to avoid confrontation because I know how hard it is for him. I went up to him and let him know I needed him to come back in without describing the situation in front of FIL."
"But he just could not tell FIL to stop talking about the lawnmower and chose to politely stand there until FIL gets bored of the topic and do nothing about the MIL situation."
"I could have caused a scene with MIL and put her in her place myself but it shouldn't be my job. And i surely don't want to waste the little energy I have on this."
"It's so frustrating."
"AITA?"
The OP summed up their situation.
"I left without saying anything after my MIL pretended not to hear me and husband did not come for rescue."
"Husband is saying I'm an a**hole for not waiting longer."
Redditors weighed in by declaring:
- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA - You're The A**hole
- NAH - No A**holes Here
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
Redditors unanimously declared the OP was not the a**hole (NTA).
"NTA. Your MIL should respect your boundaries and especially when it's about YOUR baby. And your husband should have your back on that."
"I do understand that it must be uncomfortable and hurt him, seeing his mother cry and be upset, but then he should talk to her about it instead of making you the bad person."
"The only thing I think you did 'wrong' was that you didn't pick your daughter up after the first time you said it and MIL didn't listen. Maybe that would have made things go more smooth, but then again it shouldn't really be necessary."
"I do think that it is important that you stand up for your boundaries, and your husband should support you on that." ~ ano93g
"This needs to be the new standard. If you don't listen to the baby's mother about what is best for the baby you immediately lose access to the baby. That is how it is going to be, and will be the ONLY way that she might listen."
"When you are a parent, you need to learn to enforce consequences. This is a great place to start." ~ Music_withRocks_In
"This kind of behaviour worries me because what if the baby is allergic to something? You absolutely cannot trust MIL around that baby unsupervised for even a second." ~ Divyaxoath
"Plus MIL has the nerve to cry and act all upset when she is in the wrong. Feeding cake to a 7-month-old even after the mother repeatedly said not to."
"OP did not yell, scream or argue , rather she chose a dignified exit with her baby when she realised her wishes were ignored. NTA." ~ Sweet-Fancy-Moses23
"NTA. MIL can't go 10 minutes without trying to pull something? That's not your fault or problem." ~ Ok-Interview-7328
"That's what got me. They were literally alone for 10 mins. MIL IMMEDIATELY found some sh*t to get into. NTA."
"Even I know a young baby shouldn't have something flaky and dry like cake. Jesus Christ, I usually end up choking on cake!"
"And no matter what, you ALWAYS ask the parent before you feed a kid anything."
"This MIL actively and deliberately f*cks with her family. I try to be a positive person, but I also wish a lot less people like her existed." ~ unled_horse
The OP may not have the full support of her husband in standing up to her in-laws, but Reddit was definitely on her side.
The boundaries were set. OP isn't at fault for maintaining them.
















New Mom Irate After Father-In-Law Ruins Her Birthday With 'Vulgar' Comment About Her Breasts
There's nothing quite like the feeling of going through all the work to prepare a fun celebration, just for someone to undo it with an unkind or gross comment.
That feeling just gets worse when it's your birthday, and that comment was made by someone who's supposed to care about you, sympathized the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Rude-Pepper-2389 had recently given birth and decided to have a special birthday celebration to reconnect with her loved ones after becoming a mom.
When her father-in-law stopped by unexpectedly and then made comments about her body, the Original Poster (OP) was left so uncomfortable that it ruined the whole celebration for her.
She asked the sub:
The OP wanted to have a special birthday celebration after her baby was born.
"I currently have a five-month-old and haven’t really been taking care of myself or dressing up since having the baby."
"It’s my (25 Female) birthday, and we were having friends over at our house for a private dinner to celebrate."
"My husband (24 Male) and I have been together since we were 18."
"I decided to put on this new silk shirt I got, which, admittedly, was low-cut, but I felt cute in it and felt comfortable around the friends we were having over."
Everything was fine until the OP's father-in-law (FIL) stopped by unexpectedly.
"My husband's dad decided to stop by on his way home from work."
"I will say, he was likely drunk. He works two hours away and proudly told my husband he's down to only four beers on his drive home each day... so, that's healthy."
"When he came in, I was on the couch with my baby propped up beside me, bottle feeding him. Keep in mind, I am not breastfeeding, so no, my breasts are not any larger right now."
"My husband's dad leaned down to look at the baby and then suddenly shouted, 'D**n, son, she could knock you out with those things in bed! Like cracking two coconuts together.'"
"This was fully and undoubtedly in reference to my breasts."
The OP was shocked by the comment and very uncomfortable.
"It made me deeply uncomfortable and embarrassed."
"I was so stunned, I couldn’t even process what he said to me, and our friends just stared at me, blinking."
"He’s a redneck, so he's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years, but this just seems to take the cake, as it was the first time it was directed at me."
"When he stepped out, I told my husband he needed to speak to him, and that the comment wasn’t okay."
"I went to change clothes and decided to never ever wear that shirt again."
"When I brought it up to my husband, he said he didn't hear the comment at first, but then he laughed when I told him what he said. He's always laughed when he feels awkward and has always had a hard time standing up to his parents in any capacity."
"When he and my father-in-law spoke, my FIL just said, 'I shouldn’t have said that to her, I know how she can be,' which just feels even more like I’m just being dramatic."
"Since then, I think my husband just wants me to drop it and move on, truthfully."
The OP wasn't sure what to do after what happened.
"This genuinely ruined my entire night. Am I just too sensitive, or was this an inappropriate thing to say?"
"There's also been no apology since then. This happened on Thursday, and then my father-in-law came by again on Friday with flowers to wish me a happy Mother's Day before Mother's Day Sunday."
"I think that was his way of trying to just breeze past the awkwardness. He's never gotten me a gift the whole seven years I've known him, so the flowers were odd. But I still feel really uncomfortable."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that her father-in-law's comments were rude and just plain creepy.
"NOR at all. That was really rude of him. Anyone would be offended." - Bookbringer
"NOR. That’s firmly in the category of what should be an 'inside thought,' and we should learn what those are at a much younger age than this guy is."
"F**king h**l, this is an absolutely mental thing to say out loud, let alone to your daughter-in-law." - Electronic-Fennel828
"FIL is an AH. I love that you think his being a redneck excuses it, but d**n. Even rednecks should know better than to speak that way to their son's wife."
"What does your husband have to say? Does he understand how breath-takingly rude his father was, or is he Team 'That's Just How He Is'?"
"I'd go very low contact with the old perv. NOR, he put you in an uncomfortable position with his crude remark. Is he married? I'd tell the MIL. I'd tell the whole family. Yes, it's embarrassing, but he is the one who should be embarrassed. Don't accept his non-apology." - Top-Bit85
"Maybe I’m desensitized after having large breasts since I was 13 (I’m 28 now), but I let out a little snort based on how immature of a joke it was. I’d simply tell FIL, 'Yes, I know, my boobs are big,' and move on."
"That said, I would never make such a comment about another person's body. Just because I'm technically fine with it doesn't mean I assume anyone else is!"
"Not everyone is the same, and if OP felt uncomfortable, she’s NOR. Her body, her boundaries." - Both_Original2094
"I’m sorry. That’s upsetting. My father is like this with his father. Even if it’s very offensive comments, he’s uncomfortable and has problems confronting him. It sounds like your husband isn’t going to have a talk with him, which is hurtful."
"I would explain to your husband how uncomfortable the situation was for you and that it’s a serious matter, especially if it happens again. And if he still tries to brush it off, then I would tell him you no longer want your FIL coming to your home."
"It’s your life, too, and he’s not the one being hurt here, you are." - w_coastultraviolence
Others were specifically angry about the tactics the father-in-law used to try to get out of trouble.
"Seriously? Saying 'I know how she can be' is a classic way to blame the victim for having boundaries. It’s your birthday, not a Hooters convention. What a creep. If he can’t look at the baby without checking out your breast, he shouldn't be invited to the house." - Specific_Parsnip3264
"'I know how she can be' is so f**ked up. He's the one being a disgusting person. You need to shine up your husband's spine to properly call him out at the time next time, because there will be a next time." - dancepantz
"The bit that pisses me off the most is, 'I know how she can be,' which is his way of making it her problem that she doesn't like her FiL sexualising her in front of her friends." - Outside-Partait-8935
"The 'joke' comment is gross, but that follow-up comment is infuriating. NOR, OP. But this guy will be in your life for a while, so firmly & calmly shutting this stuff down is completely appropriate."
"I'd wear the d**n shirt again to the next family function and look him right in the eyes next time!" - RationalFish
"When we let things like this slide for others, it's not long before it ends up on our doorstep, and of course, nobody says anything because keeping the peace is the norm. It doesn't have to be getting into their face and yelling abuse back. Just a comment such as, 'Well, that's super tacky to say,' or asking them why they'd say that." - Kattnapped
"The OP said, 'He's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years... but this is the first time it was directed to me.'"
"Normalise calling stuff out when they are talking about others, and they won't feel so comfortable saying it to you."
"It's a gross thing for him to say, but I guess him buying you flowers is his way of saying sorry."
"Sounds like you are in the situation of a lot of new mothers, where you suddenly realise this stuff matters because you want better influences for your child, and better support for yourself. NOR." - Jumpy-Jello-
Now, about that shirt...
"Please re-think your decision to never wear the cute shirt again, girl!! It's something that you liked very much because it made you feel good about yourself. Don't let some backwoods id**t ruin that for you."
"Wear that shirt till it's worn out and can't be worn anymore!! You should be able to feel good about yourself in whatever you like to wear."
"Your husband should have immediately checked his father, not waited until he was told to do so after his father left the room. In front of everyone there, your husband should have told his father not to ever speak about you or to you in that kind of manner, and if his father doesn't like it, he knows where the door is."
"Hubby should have called him out for his response as well. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were not the problem; his dad was. This comes down to your husband needing to protect his wife, and he didn't do that." - Lynzo141982
"If he is a redneck, like you said, he won't outright apologize, but flowers are his way of saying sorry."
"I hope he won't say anything again, or else you can expect a nicely tended garden for at least a year."
"About your top, I hope you can wear it again. It takes a lot to feel cute, being a new mum."
"If not, get some fabric dye, dye the top a different color, and embroider a flower on it. This makes the top new, different, and every time you wear it, you can use the mantra ... I'm cute, I don't care what anyone says."
"You've got this!!" - No_Kangaroo_6637
Even if the father-in-law was joking and meant no harm, this is one of those situations where he needs to admit that his joke did not land well, he did cause harm, and he needs to apologize. Just because some people enjoy joking in that manner does not mean that everyone will be comfortable with it, and it's important to respect everyone's boundaries and zones of comfort.