Being a foster parent for a child can be a heavy load to carry.
There are so many children in that world who need a stable, safe home.
Though it's a worthy undertaking, fostering requires a lot of patience and strength.
It's not meant for everybody, and every match-up isn't going to be a success.
Redditor Ok_Fly_8430 wanted to discuss their experience and get some feedback. So naturally, they came to visit the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subReddit.
They asked:
"AITA for not picking up my former foster daughter in the middle of the night after she called for help?"
The Original Poster (OP) explained:
"Two years ago my wife (37 F[emale]) and I (39) decided to foster."
"We have 3 children and felt terrible that there were kids out in the world that needed a loving home."
"Our first two placements only lasted a few days. It was fine."
"But then we were placed with 'Olivia' (11)."
"I won't go into personal details but we were her 5th foster home since she was 9."
"My wife and I literally tried everything to help but she was rebellious."
"She ran away, broke things, stole things, and lied."
"She lied so much it was insane."
"It was months and months of this."
"Just when we thought things were getting better she would ruin it."
"The 6th time she ran away, we had enough."
"We asked to have her removed."
"She said 'I knew you didn't care! I knew you didn't want me! You just wanted the money!'"
"My wife and I lost it."
"We reminded her how we listened to her, took her places she wanted to go, and encouraged her."
"We told her that we didn't spend a dime of the foster care money; instead, we saved it for her so she could have money when she turned 18."
"We showed her the bank account with thousands of dollars in it and said that when she's 18 she can still have it."
"I think it was at that point she realized we cared, but it was too late."
"She went back into the system, and we were not sure what happened."
"Life went on."
"We had another baby, we moved a few miles away."
"Last Saturday night, my wife received a call from Olivia (now 13)."
"She put it on speakerphone."
"Olivia apparently ran away from another foster home and had been living on the streets for days."
"Eventually, she made it to our old neighborhood."
"I told her that we moved."
"She asked us if we could pick her up from a certain location."
"She asked if we could take her in."
"She was crying saying she loved the kids."
"She missed my wife's cooking."
"She wants me to teach her how to play piano (I had started teaching her as a way to bond)."
"I felt bad for her but taking her back was impossible."
"But we feared she would run away again."
"So we told her that we would be there."
"We called the police instead and they took her in."
"The police contacted us a few days later saying Olivia's foster parents were pressing charges."
"She stole a few things."
"Also, Olivia had a vape with drugs in it."
"We were told that she would probably go to juvenile detention until she's 18 (this is what we were told, unsure if it will happen)."
"They asked if we wanted any updates, and we declined."
"We also asked them not to have her contact us again."
"Today, we were telling some friends about this."
"While some agreed with us, a few called us monsters."
"One of our friends said, 'I would've scooped that baby up and kept her.'"
"Legally, there was nothing we could do."
The OP was left to wonder:
"AITA for not helping?"
Redditors shared their thoughts on this matter and weighed some options to the question AITA:
- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA – You're The A**hole
- NAH – No A**holes Here
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
Many Redditors declared OP was NOT the A**hole.
"NTA - but man, oh man, what a gut-wrenching situation for you."
"Having worked with kids like this who end up on the street - the reality is this."
"Her needs far outweighed your skill sets."
"You don't have the training or skill sets to foster a kid like that."
"Neither do any of your circle."
"That baby needs WAY more than being scooped up and kept."
"Just to let you know, you already did that."
"She is going to require a full panel of professional support and services, and only she can decide if she wants that."
"Still - gut-wrenching for you and your wife."
"But she has to want the help and support - otherwise, nothing will get accomplished." ~ banjadev
"NTA. Legally you couldn't take her back."
"She burned that bridge." ~ SalisburyWitch
"You said everything I wanted to."
"With her having been through 5 fosters in just two years at such a young age, there were some deep issues that pre-dated OP's involvement and would/will need years of therapy to overcome."
"Given the circumstances, they did the best they could in that situation with what they knew."
"NTA, OP." ~ -Kestra-
"NTA. You can't help everyone, and I think you did your best for this girl."
"Sometimes your best, unfortunately, is not enough for the situation."
"This is sad all around."
"And honestly, I think it is a good thing you did not pick her up."
"She lied to you (by omission)."
"If you had picked her up, you would have been sucked into her issues, to the detriment of your own family." ~ EnderBurger
"NAH. There's only so much you can do."
"The other five foster homes may have been all bad, but yours wasn't."
"She had no real reason to run away."
"She was in other foster homes after, and she did the same stuff."
"She tried to get back to you because you were the best place, and she had your number."
"Olivia isn't an AH either."
"She's just a product of a very broken system." ~ 1962Michael
"NTA- but wow, did the system fail this girl?"
"If you were her 5th home in less than two years, that means child welfare was not meeting her needs or prepping her placements with the services and supports they needed to help her."
"After so many placements and so many perceived rejections, it is really common for kids to act out and "test" and sometimes "reject" their next placement before the new family can reject them."
"Why would she expect anything but rejection if that is all she has ever felt?"
"Even from her bio family?"
"They should have prepared you for that- and her."
"As someone said, you were not adequately prepared to meet her needs."
"It's not your fault."
"You are NTA, but gosh, do I feel sorry for her." ~ Proud-Friendship-902
"The ONLY thing I'd say you're an AH about was telling her you were coming to get her and then sending police instead."
"Never lie to a foster kid, and I'm saying that as someone who adopted a foster kid."
"You could have said you were sending help or that 'somebody' was coming to get her so she should wait right there."
"If it was too late and out of your mouth already You could have picked her up and then had police meet you at your house to pick her up from there."
"Picked her up and then taken her to the precinct."
"But telling her you'd be there and then not showing up is like in the top 5 Don'ts for fostering."
"I get it was the middle of the night, and you had to make a fast plan, but that was the one thing I'd say you did that I'd categorize as 'wrong.'"
"For the rest, you are NTA."
"She had mental health and behavioral needs that you couldn't meet and that isn't anyone's fault." ~ DecemberViolet1984
"Ouch. NTA, but your friend at the end there… it's super easy to say what you would have done if you yourself had never been in that situation."
"I get the sentiment they're trying to express, but in my opinion, it feels inappropriate given the situation."
"Like if they meant it they could inquire after Olivia and open their doors to her."
"NTA for not picking her up."
"This is a very difficult situation, and even if you were emotionally and mentally ready to take on the challenge again, you legally couldn't help." ~ Bureaucratic_*ick
"You're NTA but Olivia has no one, Olivia has severe attachment issues and that's not easy to deal with."
"Olivia reached out to your wife (and you) cause she has no one else to reach out to."
"She likely won't do that again since you violated her trust."
"Not saying you were wrong! Just saying Olivia IS alone, she doesn't just feel alone - she IS alone."
"Olivia needs to have seasoned foster parents who can and will invest in her regardless of her behavior."
"Her issues are deep-rooted, again… she's a child, a child that did not get anything handed to her in life."
"She doesn't mean to behave the way she does, her brain is wired differently due to the circumstances she was placed in."
"Poor Olivia." ~ SummerRocks1
"NTA. You are no longer her guardian, and you could have gotten into trouble if you'd done to get her."
"That girl is very troubled and very damaged, and she needs more help than you and your wife can give." ~ Limerase
"This is a troubled child, not a kitten."
"You can't just scoop her up and keep her."
"She needs more help than you can provide. NTA." ~ Ordinary_Mortgage870
"NTA, she was no longer in your care and did not want to be."
"Your friends are morons." ~ ok_Drop9357
"As someone who spent a huge portion of her childhood 20 placements between 5 and 15, I can tell you that there is no stressful experience as an adult that compares to the stress a child feels in foster care."
"I understand why they don't trust, why they act out."
"This isn't a bad child, just a child but it takes a special foster parent to understand that." ~ Cosi-grl
"I remember getting downvoted once because I pointed out that not everyone has the means to successfully foster children."
"It was in a thread asking why people give birth instead of adopting or fostering."
"But this is exactly what I meant; many kids in the system are traumatized, and many people are not equipped to handle raising traumatized kids correctly."
"It's a gut-wrenching situation, and I wish we could all give these kids loving, stable homes, but I wish people were more realistic about what it means to foster kids." ~ Rude-Illustrator-884
"NTA- but don't foster any more children for both you and the child's sake." ~ thegroovyplug
This is such a tough story, OP.
Though most Reddit users understand your actions, many have difficulty processing them.
You and your wife did what you thought you could for Olivia.
It was a nice gesture, but it didn't work out.
We hope she finds the help and support she needs.
















New Mom Irate After Father-In-Law Ruins Her Birthday With 'Vulgar' Comment About Her Breasts
There's nothing quite like the feeling of going through all the work to prepare a fun celebration, just for someone to undo it with an unkind or gross comment.
That feeling just gets worse when it's your birthday, and that comment was made by someone who's supposed to care about you, sympathized the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Rude-Pepper-2389 had recently given birth and decided to have a special birthday celebration to reconnect with her loved ones after becoming a mom.
When her father-in-law stopped by unexpectedly and then made comments about her body, the Original Poster (OP) was left so uncomfortable that it ruined the whole celebration for her.
She asked the sub:
The OP wanted to have a special birthday celebration after her baby was born.
"I currently have a five-month-old and haven’t really been taking care of myself or dressing up since having the baby."
"It’s my (25 Female) birthday, and we were having friends over at our house for a private dinner to celebrate."
"My husband (24 Male) and I have been together since we were 18."
"I decided to put on this new silk shirt I got, which, admittedly, was low-cut, but I felt cute in it and felt comfortable around the friends we were having over."
Everything was fine until the OP's father-in-law (FIL) stopped by unexpectedly.
"My husband's dad decided to stop by on his way home from work."
"I will say, he was likely drunk. He works two hours away and proudly told my husband he's down to only four beers on his drive home each day... so, that's healthy."
"When he came in, I was on the couch with my baby propped up beside me, bottle feeding him. Keep in mind, I am not breastfeeding, so no, my breasts are not any larger right now."
"My husband's dad leaned down to look at the baby and then suddenly shouted, 'D**n, son, she could knock you out with those things in bed! Like cracking two coconuts together.'"
"This was fully and undoubtedly in reference to my breasts."
The OP was shocked by the comment and very uncomfortable.
"It made me deeply uncomfortable and embarrassed."
"I was so stunned, I couldn’t even process what he said to me, and our friends just stared at me, blinking."
"He’s a redneck, so he's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years, but this just seems to take the cake, as it was the first time it was directed at me."
"When he stepped out, I told my husband he needed to speak to him, and that the comment wasn’t okay."
"I went to change clothes and decided to never ever wear that shirt again."
"When I brought it up to my husband, he said he didn't hear the comment at first, but then he laughed when I told him what he said. He's always laughed when he feels awkward and has always had a hard time standing up to his parents in any capacity."
"When he and my father-in-law spoke, my FIL just said, 'I shouldn’t have said that to her, I know how she can be,' which just feels even more like I’m just being dramatic."
"Since then, I think my husband just wants me to drop it and move on, truthfully."
The OP wasn't sure what to do after what happened.
"This genuinely ruined my entire night. Am I just too sensitive, or was this an inappropriate thing to say?"
"There's also been no apology since then. This happened on Thursday, and then my father-in-law came by again on Friday with flowers to wish me a happy Mother's Day before Mother's Day Sunday."
"I think that was his way of trying to just breeze past the awkwardness. He's never gotten me a gift the whole seven years I've known him, so the flowers were odd. But I still feel really uncomfortable."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that her father-in-law's comments were rude and just plain creepy.
"NOR at all. That was really rude of him. Anyone would be offended." - Bookbringer
"NOR. That’s firmly in the category of what should be an 'inside thought,' and we should learn what those are at a much younger age than this guy is."
"F**king h**l, this is an absolutely mental thing to say out loud, let alone to your daughter-in-law." - Electronic-Fennel828
"FIL is an AH. I love that you think his being a redneck excuses it, but d**n. Even rednecks should know better than to speak that way to their son's wife."
"What does your husband have to say? Does he understand how breath-takingly rude his father was, or is he Team 'That's Just How He Is'?"
"I'd go very low contact with the old perv. NOR, he put you in an uncomfortable position with his crude remark. Is he married? I'd tell the MIL. I'd tell the whole family. Yes, it's embarrassing, but he is the one who should be embarrassed. Don't accept his non-apology." - Top-Bit85
"Maybe I’m desensitized after having large breasts since I was 13 (I’m 28 now), but I let out a little snort based on how immature of a joke it was. I’d simply tell FIL, 'Yes, I know, my boobs are big,' and move on."
"That said, I would never make such a comment about another person's body. Just because I'm technically fine with it doesn't mean I assume anyone else is!"
"Not everyone is the same, and if OP felt uncomfortable, she’s NOR. Her body, her boundaries." - Both_Original2094
"I’m sorry. That’s upsetting. My father is like this with his father. Even if it’s very offensive comments, he’s uncomfortable and has problems confronting him. It sounds like your husband isn’t going to have a talk with him, which is hurtful."
"I would explain to your husband how uncomfortable the situation was for you and that it’s a serious matter, especially if it happens again. And if he still tries to brush it off, then I would tell him you no longer want your FIL coming to your home."
"It’s your life, too, and he’s not the one being hurt here, you are." - w_coastultraviolence
Others were specifically angry about the tactics the father-in-law used to try to get out of trouble.
"Seriously? Saying 'I know how she can be' is a classic way to blame the victim for having boundaries. It’s your birthday, not a Hooters convention. What a creep. If he can’t look at the baby without checking out your breast, he shouldn't be invited to the house." - Specific_Parsnip3264
"'I know how she can be' is so f**ked up. He's the one being a disgusting person. You need to shine up your husband's spine to properly call him out at the time next time, because there will be a next time." - dancepantz
"The bit that pisses me off the most is, 'I know how she can be,' which is his way of making it her problem that she doesn't like her FiL sexualising her in front of her friends." - Outside-Partait-8935
"The 'joke' comment is gross, but that follow-up comment is infuriating. NOR, OP. But this guy will be in your life for a while, so firmly & calmly shutting this stuff down is completely appropriate."
"I'd wear the d**n shirt again to the next family function and look him right in the eyes next time!" - RationalFish
"When we let things like this slide for others, it's not long before it ends up on our doorstep, and of course, nobody says anything because keeping the peace is the norm. It doesn't have to be getting into their face and yelling abuse back. Just a comment such as, 'Well, that's super tacky to say,' or asking them why they'd say that." - Kattnapped
"The OP said, 'He's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years... but this is the first time it was directed to me.'"
"Normalise calling stuff out when they are talking about others, and they won't feel so comfortable saying it to you."
"It's a gross thing for him to say, but I guess him buying you flowers is his way of saying sorry."
"Sounds like you are in the situation of a lot of new mothers, where you suddenly realise this stuff matters because you want better influences for your child, and better support for yourself. NOR." - Jumpy-Jello-
Now, about that shirt...
"Please re-think your decision to never wear the cute shirt again, girl!! It's something that you liked very much because it made you feel good about yourself. Don't let some backwoods id**t ruin that for you."
"Wear that shirt till it's worn out and can't be worn anymore!! You should be able to feel good about yourself in whatever you like to wear."
"Your husband should have immediately checked his father, not waited until he was told to do so after his father left the room. In front of everyone there, your husband should have told his father not to ever speak about you or to you in that kind of manner, and if his father doesn't like it, he knows where the door is."
"Hubby should have called him out for his response as well. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were not the problem; his dad was. This comes down to your husband needing to protect his wife, and he didn't do that." - Lynzo141982
"If he is a redneck, like you said, he won't outright apologize, but flowers are his way of saying sorry."
"I hope he won't say anything again, or else you can expect a nicely tended garden for at least a year."
"About your top, I hope you can wear it again. It takes a lot to feel cute, being a new mum."
"If not, get some fabric dye, dye the top a different color, and embroider a flower on it. This makes the top new, different, and every time you wear it, you can use the mantra ... I'm cute, I don't care what anyone says."
"You've got this!!" - No_Kangaroo_6637
Even if the father-in-law was joking and meant no harm, this is one of those situations where he needs to admit that his joke did not land well, he did cause harm, and he needs to apologize. Just because some people enjoy joking in that manner does not mean that everyone will be comfortable with it, and it's important to respect everyone's boundaries and zones of comfort.