When my parents got divorced in 1976, co-parenting wasn't a term I ever heard. Mothers almost always got custody of the children, fathers were expected to pay child support, and visitation might happen a couple days or weekends a month at most.
But now the roles of fathers, mothers, and family makeups changed—mostly for the better despite what some politicians claim.
Fathers are expected and want to be involved as more than an ATM. Mothers may be the primary breadwinner instead of the primary caregiver. And not every family has one mother married to one father and their 2.5 biological offspring.
In this brave new world, co-parenting blogs, vlogs, books, podcasts, tips, tricks, and advice is everywhere.
One thing almost all agree on is courteous communication is key. When that isn't there...
A mother and stepmother turned to the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subReddit for feedback.
LiteratureCareless56 asked:
"AITA for refusing to help get my stepdaughter's to their newest extra curricular activity?"
The original poster (OP) explained:
"My husband has two daughters (13 and 12) with his ex-wife. They have been divorced for almost 11 years and we have been married for 7 years and share two kids together ages 6 and 3."
"His ex-wife is not currently remarried, but she did marry twice since the divorce and has two additional children ages 9 and 5."
"The co-parenting relationship is very unstable and changeable."
"Some decisions need to be made via mediation. Others they can agree on to a point. While a few were taken to court for a judge to decide for them."
"My relationship with my stepdaughters was good until 3 years ago when their mom's negativity changed how they treat me. They have expressed that they know their mom doesn't like me, so they won't like me anymore either."
"This has been discussed in court and in therapy and nothing has changed. They continue to treat me differently than before. They don't get away with disrespect, but they still are way more rude than before and they're colder with me in general."
"Now onto the issue where I want to know if I'm the a**hole (TA)."
"My husband and I are typically really good about communicating and he is a supportive husband and father and has done a good job of keeping me out of his ex-wife's way so she can't say crap to me and also standing up for me."
"I don't join them for talks about the girls. That's him and his ex, but my husband and I will discuss it."
"A few months ago, the girls said they wanted to take new dance classes 50 minutes from our home. They already do ballet, dancing for fun (which is free) and gymnastics."
"But these dance classes are different. They're also more expensive than the other extra curricular's they do."
"I told my husband I thought the new dance classes were too far and too expensive and I said they would not work with the schedule we already have. But when he and his ex sat down to discuss it, he agreed to these new dance classes which he and his ex will split the expenses for 50/50."
"When he told me, I wasn't thrilled, because he didn't tell me he was going to agree to them. But I know it's not my decision."
"But I told him I could not and would not help get the girls there. He told me we'd figure something out."
"The girls were back with us two days after this talk and they said their mom told them I didn't want them to do these dance classes and sucks to be me because I don't have a say because I'm not their parent."
"My husband told them not to speak to me like that. He was unable to get his parents to take the girls to the new classes so he wanted me to do it."
"I put my foot down and said no. He said he can't because he has to work."
"I told him I have to drop our 6-year-old off at his extra curricular that day and it would not work with time."
"If I was allowed to have a say, I would make all their schedules work. But if they were my bio children, they would not be going to the classes 50 minutes away that are more expensive than options closer to us."
"But I refuse to make my son give up his one activity for this. I cannot make it work. That's just not an option for me."
"I'm not abandoning them. I am still actively involved in their lives. I take them to their extra curricular's (minus this one)."
"I still pick them up from school or activities if they're sick. Cook, clean, do laundry and other stuff. I'm still there if they need help with homework."
"But my son has just one activity and it's on that same day. It would not be fair to make him give up his one for them to have another activity."
"The only way I could make it work is by stopping my son from doing his activity and he only does one. That's not fair either."
"Because then I'll be remembered as the mom who was so desperate to make her stepkids see through their mom that my kids suffered. There are other options for extra curricular's that would work (different day, cheaper, closer), but nobody wants them."
"In all of this I can't just think of what kind of stepparent I want to be. I have to consider what type of parent I want to be too."
"My husband asked his ex if she'd bring them every week and she's saying I'm such an a**hole for not driving them and how dare I think I get any say in this—that I need to do what the kids want and stay out of their way otherwise."
"It's not even the girls as much as their mom is demanding it, yet she wants me to basically have no presence in their lives otherwise. By this I mean the girls really don't want me to take them."
"They'd prefer to go with anyone else. But their mom thinks I need to be acting like the unpaid help."
"My husband is normally way better at communicating this stuff with me and respecting when I say something just isn't workable. His ex never takes me into consideration."
"She says I am not a key player here and I am not important to these discussions. Her stance has been set for a while now. I don't see it ever changing either."
"The ex started to dislike me when her last marriage started going badly 3 years ago. It seems like jealousy, because I was a consistent presence with her girls and remained a part of their lives for years while she had two husband's leave during that time."
"That is when this all started to go badly."
"The girls and their mother do not consider me one of their parents. That has been made clear to me again and again. I have no say."
"The girls do not respect me or want me to be involved anymore. I still love them. I'll still do what I can for them. But it can't be at the expense of my biological children. Like my son with his activity."
"I can't speak to the ex, she does not like me and can't be civil. I have spoken to my husband. He knows."
"The girls and I have talked with the help of a therapist but they have been clear they do not care or like me and my feelings are not something they care about."
"They can still go to these classes, but their parents will have to figure something out. I can't be in two places at once."
"AITA?"
The OP summed up their situation.
"I refused to bring my stepdaughters to their new extra curricular activity and even when my husband couldn't find a second choice, I would not do it."
"This might make me TA because I signed up for being a stepmom."
"I did not do everything to make sure they could get to these classes which might be overly childish and unfair because it punishes the kids more than the adults if they can't make it."
Redditors weighed in by declaring:
- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA - You're The A**hole
- NAH - No A**holes Here
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
Redditors decided the OP was not the a**hole (NTA).
"The ex and the Brat Pack can't have it both ways. If it's none of your business and you get no say, it's also not your responsibility."
"They need to arrange their own transportation while you mind your own business. NTA." ~ MohawkMavis
"NTA, but everyone else is. The others suck for obvious reasons, but your husband is because he totally threw you under the bus when he told the kids and ex that you were against the classes. You may want to check your back for tire marks." ~ Hill0981
"NTA. You defend your husband but he's part of the problem."
"Your husband should have never told his ex/kids that you thought negatively of the class, especially without the context that it's too difficult for them to get there."
"Your husband clearly didn't hear you when you said you wouldn't take them."
"You don't have to be part of hubby/ex's conversation, but then hubby/ex cannot make you part of the plan."
"Tell hubby that your conversations with him need to be confidential."
"Tell hubby/ex/girls that the girls cannot disrespect you and then think they can have their hand out for anything other than the meals you cook at home." ~ LouisV25
"They don't get to have it both ways. They can't say 'you don't get a say in this!!!' and then turn around and say 'you must do this for us!!!'."
"If they want your help, you get a say in the matter. You are already engaged on that day taking your other child to their own extracurricular."
"That child shouldn't miss out because these two other children (who actively disrespect you) and their parents have decided their needs come first. Nope. No. Nooooo. NTA." ~ imamage_fightme
While the OP may get no say in her stepdaughters' lives, she does have a say in her own. Neither their mother nor her husband can voluntell her for anything.
The girls need a ride every other week?
Not her circus, not her monkeys.
















New Mom Irate After Father-In-Law Ruins Her Birthday With 'Vulgar' Comment About Her Breasts
There's nothing quite like the feeling of going through all the work to prepare a fun celebration, just for someone to undo it with an unkind or gross comment.
That feeling just gets worse when it's your birthday, and that comment was made by someone who's supposed to care about you, sympathized the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Rude-Pepper-2389 had recently given birth and decided to have a special birthday celebration to reconnect with her loved ones after becoming a mom.
When her father-in-law stopped by unexpectedly and then made comments about her body, the Original Poster (OP) was left so uncomfortable that it ruined the whole celebration for her.
She asked the sub:
The OP wanted to have a special birthday celebration after her baby was born.
"I currently have a five-month-old and haven’t really been taking care of myself or dressing up since having the baby."
"It’s my (25 Female) birthday, and we were having friends over at our house for a private dinner to celebrate."
"My husband (24 Male) and I have been together since we were 18."
"I decided to put on this new silk shirt I got, which, admittedly, was low-cut, but I felt cute in it and felt comfortable around the friends we were having over."
Everything was fine until the OP's father-in-law (FIL) stopped by unexpectedly.
"My husband's dad decided to stop by on his way home from work."
"I will say, he was likely drunk. He works two hours away and proudly told my husband he's down to only four beers on his drive home each day... so, that's healthy."
"When he came in, I was on the couch with my baby propped up beside me, bottle feeding him. Keep in mind, I am not breastfeeding, so no, my breasts are not any larger right now."
"My husband's dad leaned down to look at the baby and then suddenly shouted, 'D**n, son, she could knock you out with those things in bed! Like cracking two coconuts together.'"
"This was fully and undoubtedly in reference to my breasts."
The OP was shocked by the comment and very uncomfortable.
"It made me deeply uncomfortable and embarrassed."
"I was so stunned, I couldn’t even process what he said to me, and our friends just stared at me, blinking."
"He’s a redneck, so he's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years, but this just seems to take the cake, as it was the first time it was directed at me."
"When he stepped out, I told my husband he needed to speak to him, and that the comment wasn’t okay."
"I went to change clothes and decided to never ever wear that shirt again."
"When I brought it up to my husband, he said he didn't hear the comment at first, but then he laughed when I told him what he said. He's always laughed when he feels awkward and has always had a hard time standing up to his parents in any capacity."
"When he and my father-in-law spoke, my FIL just said, 'I shouldn’t have said that to her, I know how she can be,' which just feels even more like I’m just being dramatic."
"Since then, I think my husband just wants me to drop it and move on, truthfully."
The OP wasn't sure what to do after what happened.
"This genuinely ruined my entire night. Am I just too sensitive, or was this an inappropriate thing to say?"
"There's also been no apology since then. This happened on Thursday, and then my father-in-law came by again on Friday with flowers to wish me a happy Mother's Day before Mother's Day Sunday."
"I think that was his way of trying to just breeze past the awkwardness. He's never gotten me a gift the whole seven years I've known him, so the flowers were odd. But I still feel really uncomfortable."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that her father-in-law's comments were rude and just plain creepy.
"NOR at all. That was really rude of him. Anyone would be offended." - Bookbringer
"NOR. That’s firmly in the category of what should be an 'inside thought,' and we should learn what those are at a much younger age than this guy is."
"F**king h**l, this is an absolutely mental thing to say out loud, let alone to your daughter-in-law." - Electronic-Fennel828
"FIL is an AH. I love that you think his being a redneck excuses it, but d**n. Even rednecks should know better than to speak that way to their son's wife."
"What does your husband have to say? Does he understand how breath-takingly rude his father was, or is he Team 'That's Just How He Is'?"
"I'd go very low contact with the old perv. NOR, he put you in an uncomfortable position with his crude remark. Is he married? I'd tell the MIL. I'd tell the whole family. Yes, it's embarrassing, but he is the one who should be embarrassed. Don't accept his non-apology." - Top-Bit85
"Maybe I’m desensitized after having large breasts since I was 13 (I’m 28 now), but I let out a little snort based on how immature of a joke it was. I’d simply tell FIL, 'Yes, I know, my boobs are big,' and move on."
"That said, I would never make such a comment about another person's body. Just because I'm technically fine with it doesn't mean I assume anyone else is!"
"Not everyone is the same, and if OP felt uncomfortable, she’s NOR. Her body, her boundaries." - Both_Original2094
"I’m sorry. That’s upsetting. My father is like this with his father. Even if it’s very offensive comments, he’s uncomfortable and has problems confronting him. It sounds like your husband isn’t going to have a talk with him, which is hurtful."
"I would explain to your husband how uncomfortable the situation was for you and that it’s a serious matter, especially if it happens again. And if he still tries to brush it off, then I would tell him you no longer want your FIL coming to your home."
"It’s your life, too, and he’s not the one being hurt here, you are." - w_coastultraviolence
Others were specifically angry about the tactics the father-in-law used to try to get out of trouble.
"Seriously? Saying 'I know how she can be' is a classic way to blame the victim for having boundaries. It’s your birthday, not a Hooters convention. What a creep. If he can’t look at the baby without checking out your breast, he shouldn't be invited to the house." - Specific_Parsnip3264
"'I know how she can be' is so f**ked up. He's the one being a disgusting person. You need to shine up your husband's spine to properly call him out at the time next time, because there will be a next time." - dancepantz
"The bit that pisses me off the most is, 'I know how she can be,' which is his way of making it her problem that she doesn't like her FiL sexualising her in front of her friends." - Outside-Partait-8935
"The 'joke' comment is gross, but that follow-up comment is infuriating. NOR, OP. But this guy will be in your life for a while, so firmly & calmly shutting this stuff down is completely appropriate."
"I'd wear the d**n shirt again to the next family function and look him right in the eyes next time!" - RationalFish
"When we let things like this slide for others, it's not long before it ends up on our doorstep, and of course, nobody says anything because keeping the peace is the norm. It doesn't have to be getting into their face and yelling abuse back. Just a comment such as, 'Well, that's super tacky to say,' or asking them why they'd say that." - Kattnapped
"The OP said, 'He's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years... but this is the first time it was directed to me.'"
"Normalise calling stuff out when they are talking about others, and they won't feel so comfortable saying it to you."
"It's a gross thing for him to say, but I guess him buying you flowers is his way of saying sorry."
"Sounds like you are in the situation of a lot of new mothers, where you suddenly realise this stuff matters because you want better influences for your child, and better support for yourself. NOR." - Jumpy-Jello-
Now, about that shirt...
"Please re-think your decision to never wear the cute shirt again, girl!! It's something that you liked very much because it made you feel good about yourself. Don't let some backwoods id**t ruin that for you."
"Wear that shirt till it's worn out and can't be worn anymore!! You should be able to feel good about yourself in whatever you like to wear."
"Your husband should have immediately checked his father, not waited until he was told to do so after his father left the room. In front of everyone there, your husband should have told his father not to ever speak about you or to you in that kind of manner, and if his father doesn't like it, he knows where the door is."
"Hubby should have called him out for his response as well. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were not the problem; his dad was. This comes down to your husband needing to protect his wife, and he didn't do that." - Lynzo141982
"If he is a redneck, like you said, he won't outright apologize, but flowers are his way of saying sorry."
"I hope he won't say anything again, or else you can expect a nicely tended garden for at least a year."
"About your top, I hope you can wear it again. It takes a lot to feel cute, being a new mum."
"If not, get some fabric dye, dye the top a different color, and embroider a flower on it. This makes the top new, different, and every time you wear it, you can use the mantra ... I'm cute, I don't care what anyone says."
"You've got this!!" - No_Kangaroo_6637
Even if the father-in-law was joking and meant no harm, this is one of those situations where he needs to admit that his joke did not land well, he did cause harm, and he needs to apologize. Just because some people enjoy joking in that manner does not mean that everyone will be comfortable with it, and it's important to respect everyone's boundaries and zones of comfort.