We all know the Golden Rule is that you should treat other people that you would like to be treated, meaning to generally treat them with kindness and understanding.
An extension of this is the old adage, "Don't judge a book by its cover," meaning that you should know more than you think you know just from what you see in front of you. This is especially true when it comes to a person's intelligence, interests, and value as a person, pointed out the members of the "Am I the A**hole?" (AITA) subReddit.
Redditor Fluid_Reputation_173 was attending a parent-teacher conference for their daughter, and they had to show up right after work, not giving them a chance to change out of their work uniform.
While discussing their daughter's progress in math, the teacher made a derogatory comment, inquiring if they knew fractions, and the Original Poster (OP) was immediately offended by the teacher's judgment.
They asked the sub:
"AITA for calling out my kid's teacher for talking down to me?"
The OP's daughter's teacher assumed what they knew about math.
"I was at my daughter's teacher conference. I was still wearing my work clothes (I am an electrician, and my uniform was somewhat dirty)."
"She started talking to me in a baby voice, using very simple words and speaking slowly, 'Your daughter needs help with her MATH homework. Do you know what fractions ARE?'"
The OP was offended by the accusation.
"I have accrued 60 college credits, and I read all the time, but I guess since I fit the blue-collar mold, I must be stupid. I kept my cool, though, and asked her if she always assumed the level of intelligence of parents based on what clothes we wear."
"She started getting defensive like she was 'only trying to be helpful' and 'didn't mean anything by it.'"
"I told her that in the future, I would rather she talk to me like a normal person."
The OP's wife took the teacher's side.
"Now my wife thinks I made the teacher look bad for no reason, and I should have let it go because she 'meant well.'"
"I feel like that was pretty disrespectful, though.
"Am I the a**hole?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
- NTA: Not the A**hole
- YTA: You're the A**hole
- ESH: Everybody Sucks Here
- NAH: No A**holes Here
Some reassured the OP that he was totally justified in feeling offended.
"Nice one. NTA. Your wife is wrong; the teacher made herself look bad."
"For bonus points, if this ever happens again, you could talk back in a baby voice, very slowly, and say, 'Yes, I know what fractions are and I think math is a very important subject. I need it at work aaaaalll the time.'" - GSD_enthusiast
"NTA. She shouldn't have talked down to you. You were polite enough in the circumstances."
"I guess, 'Of course I do. Now what specifically is she having trouble with?' might have allowed her to save face here, but that's not your responsibility." - squipgs
"NTA. Yes, the teacher has assumed things about you. And yes, it's possible to work with parents at varying educational levels, but she should have verified first, not assumed."
"But you just corrected her, nothing major. You are not reporting her, you haven't yelled at her. And honestly, talking to any adult in a baby voice is just disrespectful." - Trevena_Ice
"I think you handled it in one of the best ways it could have been handled."
"I probably would have been tempted to go for one of not-so-good options, like replying in the same kind of baby voice: 'Um, fractions... that thingy with the numbers and the lines and there's one on the top and, and um...? It's too hard!' Yes, I'm 12."
"NTA. As far as I'm concerned, blatant condescension coupled with stereotyping, even if it's 'well-meaning,' is not something one should just ignore. You just showed her how she's on the wrong track here, politely but firmly." - Alternative-Many3523
"NTA Sometimes you have to match energy. This was one of those times. You were right to call her out." - EdenCapwell
"I'm a retired teacher. Teachers should speak to all parents with respect and kindness, regardless of their profession or lack thereof."
"Besides, tradespeople are highly skilled and use advanced math and physics daily. I have two master's degrees, but my plumber friend is far smarter than I'll ever hope to be." - BlitheCheese
"First of all, a teacher should be someone who is an example to others. Someone who acts with respect and without prejudice. She is the wrong person for this position." - Polish_girl44
"NTA. She most assuredly did not mean well. She acted in an extremely classist way (even though, as an electrician, you likely out-earn most teachers), and you took her down a peg accordingly."
"When people act with prejudice, they're not really trying to help, they're trying to 'put you in your place.'"
"Your response was firm but classy: no insults, no swearing, just pointing out exactly what she was doing and why it was wrong. She earned that embarrassment she felt." - KaliTheBaze
Fellow Redditors shared their similar experiences of being judged.
"I had a similar thing happen to me from a salesperson."
"I came straight from work as a stagehand. I'd recently bought an apartment with my then-wife, and we were looking to fill it with furniture. Our budget was around 10,000 USD."
"I approached this guy, and he would not give me the time of day. I asked him the price of a sofa, and he told me there's a price sticker on it."
"My wife then spoke to him, wearing office attire, and he couldn't be more friendly. She asked the price of the same sofa, and he talked her through all the details."
"He asked if he should place an order, and before she could answer, I stepped in and said, 'H**l no!'"
"He then realised we were together and quickly tried to turn on the charm with me."
"I wasn't about to let this judgmental prick get a commission from us."
"I explained my reasoning to my wife, but she wanted to just get it done. Only time I have staunchly gone against her wishes."
"We ended up going to another branch and getting much better service."
"You're NTA. Bigots need to be called out." - Organic_Tradition_94
"When I was with my ex-fiancé (twenty years ago), he had a friend who was a multi-multi-millionaire (the man owned his own d**n island, for god's sake) who was the kindest, humble, smart (duh), and generous person I'd ever met."
"When we would hang out at our local spots, you'd never know it. He wore regular clothes, never talked down to anyone, always tipped generously, and yet people would talk down to him regularly. It was absolutely infuriating."
"His response was always just to ignore it. He knew his value, not in money, but in being a good person. From what little I know, he still contributes generously to charities all across the country as an anonymous donor. Don't ever judge a book by its cover." - Adventurous-Bee4823
"I was with a volunteer fire company that was very close to an internationally known university and the homes of a ton of Old Money."
"Those folks would still join and respond to fires and such, and it was so funny when people, often new money, barely millionaires, would talk down to these extremely community-minded and often zillionaire and/or multi-degreed geniuses just because they were wearing turnouts and were covered in soot."
"I bet they wondered why they later got blackballed from the country clubs." - shelwood46
"When I was 17, I worked at a computer store. A guy walks in in sweats, looking less than professional. No one else would help him, so I went up and asked if I could help."
"He ended up buying over $80,000 worth of computer equipment. NEVER, EVER, judge a book by the cover." - KaijuNo-8
"My sister worked for a university, and she needed to buy minivans for her program. She was in her 30s but looked much younger."
"The first sales guy at the dealership dismissed her and told her, 'When you're actually ready to buy, let me know,' and walked away. She found a second salesperson who was nicer to her, and she said, 'I like the Sienna. I'll take three.'"
"She said it was her 'Pretty Woman' moment." - Grapevine_1224
But a few sided with the OP's wife and wanted to give the teacher the benefit of the doubt.
"I am a teacher. Yes, she should have been kinder, but her question was not out of line."
"I have students whose parents can barely read. If parents have been out of school for a long time, they can forget what things are. If they have immigrated from another country, then they may not understand."
"Plus, you have to remember that we are with kids and we can go days with having little contact with other adults. It's not easy to switch teacher mode on and off. It's also the end of the school year, and most of us are hanging by a thread."
"So, yes. She could have been better with how she approached you, but you could also extend a little grace." - Ok_Double9430
"It's hard to go between being a teacher and being an adult with other adults. It makes me wonder, especially given the baby voice. Sounds like she works with small children."
"Was she talking down to OP because of his clothes, or did she just forget to switch into adult mode and accidentally address him the way she would one of her students?"
"Although if that's the case, I'd expect her to be mortified and explain what happened and apologize. But some people get defensive over their mistakes instead." - TryUsingScience
"Contrary to many, I'm going with NAH."
"Yes, there are plenty of trades that require various levels of mathematics, physics, chemistry, etc. (I, too, work in the applied sciences). However, you got defensive pretty quickly and made an assumption about why you perceived you were being treated some kind of way."
"I'm curious what grade your child is in? Since teachers have a very verbally performative job, sounding condescending, like baby talk, could be a way of communicating that works well for them with children and may be hard to turn off. If the conversation went down exactly as you say, then there was simply one sentence that you were sensitive to and interpreted as condescension."
"Unless your understandably dirty work uniform has an obvious emblem clearly stating your exact profession, how is she to know what you do and don't remember from school. She is trying to be thorough. Assuming you did know something without clarification in her position could lead to a kid lacking support and falling further behind, which would invite criticism and anger from parents. She is protecting herself and your child."
"I don't think either party was overly rude or out of line here. Your wife is right, though, and you should cut teachers a break and try not to be so sensitive about your profession. Perhaps keep a clean change of clothes in your vehicle if you keep thinking it is the basis for uninvited judgment and false assumptions." - Aromatic-South-1609
Most of the subRedditors understood why the OP was offended and agreed that what the teacher had done was condescending, but there were a few who thought that she may have made a mistake in switching between speaking to young students and speaking to an adult.
Either way, there's a chance both people could have done a little better here, from the teacher not making an assumption, or at least communicating one, and a parent being a little more patient when the whole interaction might have been a mistake.
















New Mom Irate After Father-In-Law Ruins Her Birthday With 'Vulgar' Comment About Her Breasts
There's nothing quite like the feeling of going through all the work to prepare a fun celebration, just for someone to undo it with an unkind or gross comment.
That feeling just gets worse when it's your birthday, and that comment was made by someone who's supposed to care about you, sympathized the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Rude-Pepper-2389 had recently given birth and decided to have a special birthday celebration to reconnect with her loved ones after becoming a mom.
When her father-in-law stopped by unexpectedly and then made comments about her body, the Original Poster (OP) was left so uncomfortable that it ruined the whole celebration for her.
She asked the sub:
The OP wanted to have a special birthday celebration after her baby was born.
"I currently have a five-month-old and haven’t really been taking care of myself or dressing up since having the baby."
"It’s my (25 Female) birthday, and we were having friends over at our house for a private dinner to celebrate."
"My husband (24 Male) and I have been together since we were 18."
"I decided to put on this new silk shirt I got, which, admittedly, was low-cut, but I felt cute in it and felt comfortable around the friends we were having over."
Everything was fine until the OP's father-in-law (FIL) stopped by unexpectedly.
"My husband's dad decided to stop by on his way home from work."
"I will say, he was likely drunk. He works two hours away and proudly told my husband he's down to only four beers on his drive home each day... so, that's healthy."
"When he came in, I was on the couch with my baby propped up beside me, bottle feeding him. Keep in mind, I am not breastfeeding, so no, my breasts are not any larger right now."
"My husband's dad leaned down to look at the baby and then suddenly shouted, 'D**n, son, she could knock you out with those things in bed! Like cracking two coconuts together.'"
"This was fully and undoubtedly in reference to my breasts."
The OP was shocked by the comment and very uncomfortable.
"It made me deeply uncomfortable and embarrassed."
"I was so stunned, I couldn’t even process what he said to me, and our friends just stared at me, blinking."
"He’s a redneck, so he's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years, but this just seems to take the cake, as it was the first time it was directed at me."
"When he stepped out, I told my husband he needed to speak to him, and that the comment wasn’t okay."
"I went to change clothes and decided to never ever wear that shirt again."
"When I brought it up to my husband, he said he didn't hear the comment at first, but then he laughed when I told him what he said. He's always laughed when he feels awkward and has always had a hard time standing up to his parents in any capacity."
"When he and my father-in-law spoke, my FIL just said, 'I shouldn’t have said that to her, I know how she can be,' which just feels even more like I’m just being dramatic."
"Since then, I think my husband just wants me to drop it and move on, truthfully."
The OP wasn't sure what to do after what happened.
"This genuinely ruined my entire night. Am I just too sensitive, or was this an inappropriate thing to say?"
"There's also been no apology since then. This happened on Thursday, and then my father-in-law came by again on Friday with flowers to wish me a happy Mother's Day before Mother's Day Sunday."
"I think that was his way of trying to just breeze past the awkwardness. He's never gotten me a gift the whole seven years I've known him, so the flowers were odd. But I still feel really uncomfortable."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that her father-in-law's comments were rude and just plain creepy.
"NOR at all. That was really rude of him. Anyone would be offended." - Bookbringer
"NOR. That’s firmly in the category of what should be an 'inside thought,' and we should learn what those are at a much younger age than this guy is."
"F**king h**l, this is an absolutely mental thing to say out loud, let alone to your daughter-in-law." - Electronic-Fennel828
"FIL is an AH. I love that you think his being a redneck excuses it, but d**n. Even rednecks should know better than to speak that way to their son's wife."
"What does your husband have to say? Does he understand how breath-takingly rude his father was, or is he Team 'That's Just How He Is'?"
"I'd go very low contact with the old perv. NOR, he put you in an uncomfortable position with his crude remark. Is he married? I'd tell the MIL. I'd tell the whole family. Yes, it's embarrassing, but he is the one who should be embarrassed. Don't accept his non-apology." - Top-Bit85
"Maybe I’m desensitized after having large breasts since I was 13 (I’m 28 now), but I let out a little snort based on how immature of a joke it was. I’d simply tell FIL, 'Yes, I know, my boobs are big,' and move on."
"That said, I would never make such a comment about another person's body. Just because I'm technically fine with it doesn't mean I assume anyone else is!"
"Not everyone is the same, and if OP felt uncomfortable, she’s NOR. Her body, her boundaries." - Both_Original2094
"I’m sorry. That’s upsetting. My father is like this with his father. Even if it’s very offensive comments, he’s uncomfortable and has problems confronting him. It sounds like your husband isn’t going to have a talk with him, which is hurtful."
"I would explain to your husband how uncomfortable the situation was for you and that it’s a serious matter, especially if it happens again. And if he still tries to brush it off, then I would tell him you no longer want your FIL coming to your home."
"It’s your life, too, and he’s not the one being hurt here, you are." - w_coastultraviolence
Others were specifically angry about the tactics the father-in-law used to try to get out of trouble.
"Seriously? Saying 'I know how she can be' is a classic way to blame the victim for having boundaries. It’s your birthday, not a Hooters convention. What a creep. If he can’t look at the baby without checking out your breast, he shouldn't be invited to the house." - Specific_Parsnip3264
"'I know how she can be' is so f**ked up. He's the one being a disgusting person. You need to shine up your husband's spine to properly call him out at the time next time, because there will be a next time." - dancepantz
"The bit that pisses me off the most is, 'I know how she can be,' which is his way of making it her problem that she doesn't like her FiL sexualising her in front of her friends." - Outside-Partait-8935
"The 'joke' comment is gross, but that follow-up comment is infuriating. NOR, OP. But this guy will be in your life for a while, so firmly & calmly shutting this stuff down is completely appropriate."
"I'd wear the d**n shirt again to the next family function and look him right in the eyes next time!" - RationalFish
"When we let things like this slide for others, it's not long before it ends up on our doorstep, and of course, nobody says anything because keeping the peace is the norm. It doesn't have to be getting into their face and yelling abuse back. Just a comment such as, 'Well, that's super tacky to say,' or asking them why they'd say that." - Kattnapped
"The OP said, 'He's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years... but this is the first time it was directed to me.'"
"Normalise calling stuff out when they are talking about others, and they won't feel so comfortable saying it to you."
"It's a gross thing for him to say, but I guess him buying you flowers is his way of saying sorry."
"Sounds like you are in the situation of a lot of new mothers, where you suddenly realise this stuff matters because you want better influences for your child, and better support for yourself. NOR." - Jumpy-Jello-
Now, about that shirt...
"Please re-think your decision to never wear the cute shirt again, girl!! It's something that you liked very much because it made you feel good about yourself. Don't let some backwoods id**t ruin that for you."
"Wear that shirt till it's worn out and can't be worn anymore!! You should be able to feel good about yourself in whatever you like to wear."
"Your husband should have immediately checked his father, not waited until he was told to do so after his father left the room. In front of everyone there, your husband should have told his father not to ever speak about you or to you in that kind of manner, and if his father doesn't like it, he knows where the door is."
"Hubby should have called him out for his response as well. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were not the problem; his dad was. This comes down to your husband needing to protect his wife, and he didn't do that." - Lynzo141982
"If he is a redneck, like you said, he won't outright apologize, but flowers are his way of saying sorry."
"I hope he won't say anything again, or else you can expect a nicely tended garden for at least a year."
"About your top, I hope you can wear it again. It takes a lot to feel cute, being a new mum."
"If not, get some fabric dye, dye the top a different color, and embroider a flower on it. This makes the top new, different, and every time you wear it, you can use the mantra ... I'm cute, I don't care what anyone says."
"You've got this!!" - No_Kangaroo_6637
Even if the father-in-law was joking and meant no harm, this is one of those situations where he needs to admit that his joke did not land well, he did cause harm, and he needs to apologize. Just because some people enjoy joking in that manner does not mean that everyone will be comfortable with it, and it's important to respect everyone's boundaries and zones of comfort.