Content Warning: Family Abandonment, Child Neglect, Scapegoat, Black Sheep
We all like to think that fairy tales like Cinderella and holiday movies like Home Alone are just that: entertainment, stories, and fantasies.
But for some, they strike horribly close to home, empathized the "Am I the A**hole?" (AITAH) subReddit.
Redditor Forgotten_child9 had felt forgotten by her family her entire life. No matter how she tried to involve herself in family activities, she was always excluded, and that was all the more true while her parents were planning their belated wedding.
But when they tried to lie to guests about why she wasn't in attendance, citing her as too ill to attend, the Original Poster (OP) called them out on social media, saying she wasn't sick at all.
She asked the sub:
"AITAH for exposing my parents when they forgot about me on their wedding?"
The OP's family forgot to involve her in her parents' destination wedding plans. Completely.
"I know this seems like a weird situation, but I just feel so angry and depressed that I feel the need to vent even if no one is listening. So I (17 Female) was recently forgotten about on the day of my parents wedding."
"My parents have been together for about 25 years, but they never actually got married."
"That's why when my dad (50 Male) proposed to my mother (49 Female) on their anniversary (which they have always celebrated on the date my mother found out she was pregnant with my eldest sister, even though they were already together before that), everyone, including me, was elated and celebrated the occasion with great joy."
The OP had looked on her entire life as she was excluded from her family.
"This happened all the way back in February. They immediately jumped into wedding planning, deciding very early on a small event in Hawaii with just the closest family and friends for an intimate ceremony."
"Almost immediately, my mother asked my sister (25 Female) to be her Maid of Honor, and my dad asked my brother (22 Male) to be his Groomsman."
"I wasn't surprised or offended by this; my sister had always been a mommy's girl and they both enjoyed spending time with each other shopping and socializing so they had a very close bond. The same goes for my father and brother; they always played football together and messed around with cars; my father even trained my brother's team for a while in middle school."
"That had always left me as the odd one out: I tried to insert myself into my family's hobbies and groups that they had within our home but was always rebuffed. Maybe they could sense that my interest on their activities wasn't all that genuine or maybe they just didn't care."
"Either way, I was used to being the last and least important member of my family. Mom had sis and dad had bro, my parents had each other and my two siblings were closer to each other than they ever were to me, leaving me very lonely and isolated in my own home."
The OP continued to look on in silence as she was excluded from the wedding.
"During the preparation for the wedding, initially it was suggested that I be the flower girl, but my sister thought that role would be more appropriate for her daughter (3 Female), so that idea was quickly tossed away."
"Later on, my maternal grandmother suggested that I might read a poem or do a little bit of a speech during the ceremony, but both my parents refused because they wanted the wedding to be 'low key,' and they didn't think a 'cheesy and sappy speech would fit their vision' (their literal words)."
"I was still okay with all of this, even though it hurt to know I would be the only member of the family to not actually be part of the wedding party or have any role at all on the day."
"As the day approached, my parents and siblings got more and more caught up on all the wedding planning."
"I noticed my mom didn't invite me dress shopping, and that whenever they would have discussions about the venue or the event, I was left out, so I decided to see if they would realize that I wasn't being involved at all and kept quiet, waiting for them to ask me something, anything, about the wedding but that never happened."
It all came to a head the day before leaving for the destination wedding.
"The wedding was set for three weeks ago, the end of August. The day before the departure, my mother casually asked if I had my luggage ready because we couldn't be late to the airport."
"I bluntly told her that I hadn't prepared anything."
"She got confused for a second and then snapped at me for not being prepared."
"I then asked her if I even had a ticket and her face went pale. Yep, they hadn't even bought me a ticket, and I'm not even sure if I had a room or any accommodations once there. Even though I was the only person in my family without an stable income (I work as a part-time baby-sitter) my parents had bought first class tickets for my siblings and the couple other friends that were attending the wedding but had forgotten me."
"My mom told me not to make a big deal out of it and that they can just find me a low-cost ticket last minute from a cheap airline, but I just replied by asking her, 'Then what? Do I even have a dress for the ceremony?' I reminded her that she went with my sister to buy hers and all the other female guests months ago, but I wasn't included."
"That's when my father came in and just told me to suck it up and that I've never been a girly girl so I could just wear whatever."
"I got mad at this because, even though I'm not the most feminine girl in the planet, I would have loved to be included in such an important part of my parents wedding, and it was about the fact that I was excluded for literally everything that had been going on for months."
"We all got into a fight with them calling me entitled and accusing me of making myself small intentionally so they would forget me (like that is a valid excuse for ignoring a child). They ended up telling me that if I was going to keep this attitude, I might as well skip the whole thing altogether."
"I responded with a defiant, 'Fine,' and went to my room. The next morning, they all left for Hawaii without me."
The OP decided not to sit in silence while her parents lied about her absence.
"The ceremony was really small, but they all posted loads of pictures on Instagram and Facebook about how perfect and magical that whole week was."
"People realized quickly that I wasn't in any of the photos and asked my parents why, to which they replied that unfortunately I had caught [the pandemic virus] before the trip and had to stay behind."
"My blood boiled at this, I don't know why this was the straw that broke the camel back for me, but it was."
"I decided to take a virus test and published a picture of myself holding the negative test and captioned it, 'Not sick at all, just forgotten.'"
"I tagged everyone that had questioned my absence from the trip and the wedding in the picture and, for good measure, also every person invited to it. I also wrote in the comments about how my parents had literally forgotten about anything to do with me until the day before parting and how they actually uninvited me."
"Most people were on my side, and others couldn't believe it and thought there must be something more to the story than what I was saying."
"One thing is for certain, I completely ruined my parents' wedding. Their day was overshadowed by my confession."
The family lashed out at the OP.
"At first, I felt quite satisfied with myself for standing up on my own but, after a barrage of messages from my family calling me every name in the book and later, when they came back, them furiously attacking me for my immature actions and my spoiled behavior my pride deflated quickly, and I began to feel awful."
"I hate my family, and I hate being in this house, but I'm a minor and can't leave just yet. I do feel like I could've handled the situation better, though, and now I feel so depressed that I'm second guessing everything I did, from not speaking up before to the way I exposed them."
"I also feel guilty for the lack of connection between all of my family and me and maybe I could've done more?"
"AITAH?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
- NTA: Not the A**hole
- YTA: You're the A**hole
- ESH: Everybody Sucks Here
- NAH: No A**holes Here
Some reassured the OP that she wasn't wrong to call the family out.
"So their wedding day was ruined because they got exposed, not because you weren't there? Parents of the Century." - nick4424
"OP, their reactions and being indifferent until called out publicly leads me to think that their 'happiness' is strictly performative."
"NTA and I sincerely wish you the best. Please reach out to sympathetic family members if you can do so safely." - firedmya**
"NTA. They made themselves look bad. Don't buy into how they try to spin this." - PossibleAd1348
"NTA."
"Your parents f**ked up. They know it. Your siblings also f**ked up. They also know it."
"And you weren't making them look bad with your social media posts. You were correcting a lie."
"I hope you are able to qualify for a full-ride scholarship, because something tells me you don't have much of a college fund, if any." - Front_Rip4064
"Holy cow, now the entire world knows your sperm and egg donors are terrible parents AND liars."
"They'll never recover from this, this kind of gossip is just too juicy to not repeat for years and years to anyone and everyone. And there's a high chance, at least one of the invitees is going to either be, or be related to, a gossip."
"NTA." - Stormy8888
Others empathized with what the OP was going through.
"I know some here think this is a fake story, and I really hope it is. Unfortunately, I know families like this. I am the oddball in my family and have had similar experiences but not to this extent."
"You did absolutely nothing wrong. They made no attempts to include you in the planning or the ceremony. They lied about why you were not there. If your truth will make you bad, then you did something wrong. That's on them."
"NTA." - Altruistic-Bunny
"My father actively hated me and set out to not include me in anything. I don't know what's worse, deliberate exclusion or benign neglect. Either way, I hope OP gets the f**k outta dodge, and cuts these s**tty people out of her life. She's NTA at all." - LadyBladeWarAngel
"I have a similar family dynamic to OP although I'm the oldest. I wasn't asked to go on family vacations, my birthday was always forgotten about. If my mom and younger siblings wanted to go out to eat for family dinner while I was at work, they would leave and not say a word to me."
"OP, NTA. Don't let them make you feel guilty. As soon as I could I moved out. Didn't say a word to anyone in my immediate family, just packed a bag and was gone. I'm no contact with everyone but my little sister and even she is on 'probation' with regards to visits and hanging out." - AcaliahWolfsong
"Can I give you some foreshadowing from the perspective of the fifth boy of my siblings?"
"Being forgotten is secretly a blessing. As an adult, I have no family problems. No calls on Christmas, no obligations for Thanksgiving or Easter. No annoying trips to spend an awkward weekend together. I don't have to call my parents on mother's/father's day."
"As soon as i turned 18, I stepped out of the picture and let my family bicker and drama amongst themselves. F*ck 'em! Make your plan today. Then go low-to-no contact."
"College is the best route for getting the f**k out. Start looking for work and planning your income/expenses, OR, if you're charismatic, just go set up shop in a romantic partner's life."
"I made my own family and its f*cking bad@ss and adorable and happy every day." - voidmusik
"I can't give you advice on how to make your family see you, I can only give you this: It's not your fault."
"The age gap is too big. They have lots in common, and they understand each other, but there was a generational gap between you and them. And that's why you can't build a bridge."
"They have to come to you and help you to build, but if they don't do that, you won't succeed."
"So here's what I did:"
"At a certain point, I've let go. I let them do their thing and concentrated on myself. I spend all my energy becoming the best person I could, working on my communication skills, on my qualifications, finding a good job, and pouring myself into my relationship and making my own family."
"It hurts immensely, and it is difficult, but I found my happiness by letting them go and categorizing them as 'friendly neighbors.' I smiled and happily accepted every bone they threw me, but I didn't try to get more or make room for them in my plans." - PrancingRedPony
A few days later, the OP shared a promising update in another post.
"Hi everyone! I wanted to write an update earlier but I'm still kind of a mess at the moment, but I figured since my post had such an overwhelming response and so many people commented and sent me messages that I should write about the latest developments."
"First of all, let me start by thanking all who commented on my post and shared their own experiences or points of view on my situation. Thank you so much. A few days ago, I could barely find the energy to get out of bed, and my family's comments made me really believe that I was guilty for all that had passed. But after seeing the responses to my post and all the support you guys were giving me, I felt somewhat reaffirmed in my actions and feelings towards my family."
"I'm still fighting the feelings of guilt and depression, but whenever I start to spiral, I think about how much this community of strangers has had my back, and I try to calm myself down with your words."
"Thanks to your input and advice, I finally decided to call my grandma and tell her the full story. Just to clarify a point before going on, I said this in the comments, but I feel like I should put it here also: my grandma (77 Female) did not attend the wedding. She lives several states away and has mobility issues, so she doesn't travel anymore."
"We went to visit her around Easter, and that's when she commented that I might read a poem at the ceremony, but that was the last time I saw her in person before all this."
"She's always been very loving to me and has called out my parents in the past for their favoritism, but is hard for her to play a more active role in my upbringing since she lives so far, and I am always worried about bothering her due to her age and health condition (She had a minor stroke a few years back and is now back to normal, but I still worry)."
The OP explained everything to her grandma, who was wholly supportive of her.
"Anyway, I called her and laid out everything that had happened with the wedding and how my parents didn't even buy me a ticket to go with them."
"She came to the same conclusion that most commenters did when I told her that it was simply impossible that they had forgotten and that they did it on purpose."
"I cried on the phone with her, laying out how I was feeling, how this has been going on forever, how I feel in the aftermath, and most importantly, about my need to get out."
"She was extremely sweet and comforting to me and told me that I had nothing else to worry about because she had my back 100% and told me to take it easy but make plans for my future and that she'd help me."
The OP also connected with a friend to see about moving out.
"After that conversation, which lasted about two hours, I felt better, and I decided to listen to her and start moving to figure something out for the next school year."
"I have a friend who is going to lease a studio next to our future campus. She has a great relationship with her parents, but she has five younger siblings and wants to be more independent, so that's why she decided to move out."
"I asked her if I could move in with her temporarily and that I would pay her rent as soon as I got a job."
"She immediately accepted and told me not to worry about rent or anything else until I was in a better position, and we had a good cry together when I told her all about my parent's wedding incident."
The OP's relationship with her family was more strained than ever.
"So this all happened a couple days ago, and I was planning on doing the update then, but my grandma called my parents and my siblings to lecture them about how they were treating me."
"My brother just sent me a text afterward with a half-hearted apology, saying that he didn't know I wasn't included and that he just thought I wouldn't have fun on the trip, and he assumed I posted the pic just to create drama."
"My sister, on the other hand, berated me and told me that I kept trying to make public my own problems and pinning them on my family when they were all innocent."
"It has been weird with my parents ever since they came back from the trip and, at first they berated me and were furious with me and, after that, we've just been ignoring each other."
"After my grandma called them, they came into my room, telling me that if I wanted to put this whole issue to rest, I should shut up about it and that this could all had already blown over if only I had kept my mouth shut."
"I just asked them to leave my room, and then I called my grandma again to tell her what had gone down."
"She then told me that she and my uncle had bought plane tickets to come down to see me."
"This was something that I was actually scared about because my grandma's health is not the best and this kind of effort is a lot for her, and I know how complicated it is for her to get on a plane."
"I tried to dissuade her from coming and told her everything would be okay, but she wouldn't listen and told me that she was long overdue a conversation with my parents and that she wanted to see me."
The OP felt mixed emotions, including worry and relief.
"I'm stressed for her, and I feel again like I forced her to take a long, uncomfortable trip because of me and that maybe I should have dealt with this myself."
"I do want to see her, and I wish for nothing more than to hug her right now, but I'm worried about her. At least my uncle (mom's older brother) is coming with her, but I hope she doesn't exhaust herself or nothing happens to her because that would break me."
"They arrive tomorrow and have not informed my parents of their trip. My grandma asked me to keep it to myself until she gets here."
"I don't know. I'm worried about her having to do so much for me and bothering her, but I also appreciate and love her so much for doing all this for me."
"I hope she is able to make my parents see the mistake in their actions or, at the very least, help me break the news to them that I'm moving out very soon, and I plan on being no contact with them."
Fellow Redditors were left rooting for the OP, her grandmother, and her uncle.
"Meemaw coming in hot with a wheelchair, oxygen tank, and a whole bottle of a** whuppin' for OP's parents, and I am here for it!" - BurgerQueen69
"Wow, your grandma is amazing! It's so great that she has your back and is willing to stand up to your parents. And don't worry about her making the trip, she sounds like a strong and determined woman."
"Plus, you deserve to have someone on your side who will fight for you. Keep us updated on how everything goes with your family, and remember, you have a whole community here to support you. Best of luck with your future plans!" - rubiebabyyy
"NTA. Your Grandma sounds like a tough cookie, just hug her tight when she arrives! Your parents and siblings want you to 'shut up' so people won't know how horrible they are."
"You've done the right thing by showing others who they really are! I hope your grandma and uncle blast them! Take care of yourself and go live a fabulous life without these AHs." - Shutupandplayball
"Don't worry, OP, she has your uncle with her. He'll take care of her on the travel and make sure she doesn't stress out too much."
"She'll be able to get the wheelchair service at the airport (which is honestly awesome because as the person going with her, your uncle will also get the expedited service of the front of the security line, first boarding group, avoiding crowded areas of the airport)."
"And then when they arrive, you will have two people there to support you. Your Grandma means business!" - dumbogirl1
"Grandma is good people and sounds so strong. So don't worry that much, OP! She's got you."
"Your parents are terrible. As a minor, it's on them, not you, to have done all that stuff for you, and they deserve to be called on their favoritism and idiocy. Stay strong!" - gelseyd
The subReddit was appalled for the OP and how she had been treated her entire life by her immediate family, but the wedding planning was the final series of straws.
Since she was turning 18 in a month and a half anyway, the subReddit hoped she could gift herself with a new home, a new life, and no contact with these people.















Woman Asks If It's Wrong To Hold Grudge After Mom Told Her When She 8 Years Old That She Wished She'd Aborted Her
While some people view having and raising children as the greatest blessing, some parents hold their children's existence against them for their entire lives.
And when they feel that way about their children, they're unfortunately typically pretty honest about it, cringed the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor heavelymango knew from the time she was young that her mother did not really like her and significantly favored her sister.
But when her mother told her at the age of eight that she wished she had aborted her, the Original Poster (OP) held on to that grudge for years after the fact.
She asked the sub:
The OP had a grudge against her mother.
"I (22 Female) have been holding onto a grudge due to something my mom told me when I was roughly eight or nine years old."
"Growing up, I was a rebellious kid and always felt as if my mom favored my older sister. My sister would always get whatever she wanted."
"I know she was born with Down syndrome and always needed more attention and care, but if my sister wanted my tablet, for example, she would have it for the whole day while mine was limited to 30 minutes so she could have it."
"As a kid, I lashed out more because of this. She could take all of my things, but I could never use hers."
During a heated moment, the OP's mother said something unforgivable.
"Eventually, this led to an argument with my mom. I don't recall the whole thing, but it was related to my sister and how I felt my mom didn't care about me or give me the same amount of attention."
"The fight got heated, and I probably told my mom that I hated my sister and her."
"I remember she said back, 'I never wanted you from the start. I knew I should've aborted you when I had the chance.'"
" I didn't know what aborted meant at the time, and I remember I looked it up, and it made me cry. I never forgot it, and it lingers in my mind whenever I am home."
The OP's mother pressured her to "let it go" and move on.
"Even growing up, I still brought it up, and she would get mad, saying I need to let it go and how I'm stubborn for not just forgetting what she said."
"There was even a time in high school when she took me to a therapist, and she complained about how I never dropped what she said."
"She says I need to move on from it because it has affected my relationship with her, and she wants to fix it."
"I know I'm older now and it was so long ago, but it still hurts, and I feel like it's made me not want to have her in my life in the future, and I have told this to her."
"How I don't want her in my life once I move out, get married, or have my own kids."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that this sounded like a core memory more than a grudge.
"The axe forgets. The tree remembers."
"It sounds less like you're holding a grudge and more that this is a formative, core memory for you."
"It won't stop being a core memory (unless maybe with the help of a lot of therapy). Has your mom ever apologized for saying that? Because you don't have to forget to forgive, but if she's not remorseful for saying that terrible thing to her young child (not just remorseful that you remember it), then she probably needs therapy (or is a narcissist/sociopath/similar)."
"You are certainly not obligated to 'get over it.'" - Hot-Can3615
"This is not a 'grudge'; it is pain that is still felt to such a degree. If she said it, then she was thinking it. She'll probably never apologize, but that doesn't mean your pain is or was invalid." - Fast_Register_9480
"NOR. This kind of thing needs a real apology. Like she needs to acknowledge the damage and genuinely care about it. Brushing it off won’t make it go away." - TentacleWolverine
"NOR. Did she really want to fix things? She basically just told you to get over it from the start instead of giving you a sincere apology."
"That isn't working on anything. She wants you to get over it so she can pretend that she never said it, so she doesn't have to feel bad about what she did. It doesn't sound like she cares much about how you feel."
"She just doesn't want to deal with it. For that reason, I would still have issues with what she said." - Chemical-Ad6809
"If your relationship with your mother is being affected by the actions of your mother, your mother is responsible for fixing it."
"You should know you probably aren't ever going to get closure, but you don't have to swallow it down. It helps to be the person you needed when you were younger out loud to yourself, but especially to others."
"For example: My name is Liz, and my mom told me to go ahead and do it already and save us all the heartache when I finally had the courage to tell her about how much I've been struggling with self-harm and suicidal ideation. I'm never going to forgive her for that, and we have never been close as a result of her actions."
"You aren't holding onto a grudge; you have a core memory of your mother distilling her feelings into a world-shattering sentence."
"You did not have a secure attachment before and can't have one now because of the deep trauma. You do not apologize for being stabbed."
"Find another therapist. I mean it. Someone who cares about your well-being wouldn't force you to apologize for being verbally abused as a child. I'm 29 now, and I lived through it. I still struggle with suicidal ideation daily, but once I stopped relying on my mom and unstable sources for support, my life got better immediately."
"You want things for comfort and familiarity. Don't let your mom or your therapist gaslight you into crossing a boundary."
"It might help to ask for a written five-part apology from your mom. 1. Acknowledge what you did 2. Say why it was wrong 3. Promise not to do it again 4. Ask how to make amends. 5. Share your feelings at this time if there's anything you'd like to say."
"My mom can be a good person and a bad mom and role model. Being in your own company is so much better than poor company." - PotLuckyPodcast
Others hoped the OP would go no contact with her mother sooner rather than later.
"NOR. It’s emotional abuse. And you do not owe her closeness after that, especially as she refuses to be accountable for that and try to make it up to you."
"She knows you have her number, and she can’t forgive you for knowing what a colloidal b***h she is."
"It’s unlikely that will change; it will at least be turned back on you with her the victim."
"Stop expecting her to apologize. If she doesn’t pay your bills, ghost her." - SnooCheesecakes2723
"My mom said something similar. My brother and I were adopted, and when I was a teen, in front of a church lady, she said, 'We didn't even really want you, but the people didn't want to split y'all up, so we just took you, too.'"
"Me and the church lady were shook. When I say my falbbers were ghasted. Like huh? She didn't remember saying that when I brought it up years after the fact."
"I also got grounded two times for two separate nine weeks (for C's on my report card) and a three and a half to four months (for smoking at 16 and getting caught because she liked to just pop up out of nowhere), and we just had a talk about that, and she didn't even remember."
"She said, 'No, I didn't. I never grounded you for that long,' and when I gave my rebuttal, she said, 'Well, if I did, it definitely wasn't for no nine weeks or months,' and this started because she was praising me for reading so much and liking books. I said, 'Well, when you were grounded like me, that's all I could do (no TV, no friends outside of school, no music, nothing but my room and books)."
"There's a reason I only call or answer her calls once or twice every few weeks. And I only call to get food, really..." - ManicalMoe
"‘Fine, I'm sorry’ is not an apology."
"Whilst I’m sure it was said in anger, most things said in anger have a grain of truth. There are also some things that no half-decent parent ever says to their children, no matter how angry they are, and this is one of them! It also sounds like she has made repeated similar comments of not wanting you as her child."
"I understand her eldest had a disability, but this is no excuse for neglecting and emotionally abusing her younger child. Lots of families deal with a child with additional needs whilst still managing to prioritise their other kids. Children with Down syndrome are capable of understanding ‘that’s your sister's, not yours; give it back’ !! It sounds like your mum has mental health issues?"
"Do you have a present father or other family you can turn to?"
"Protect your peace. Your mum has hurt you time and time again, honestly, for no real gain other than momentarily satisfying her anger. You owe this woman nothing." - Background_Term9810
"I went through something similar. When I was a little girl, my mother used to make comments that implied she didn't want me, though it was never that explicit. 'I only had you because your brother wanted a sister,' and 'My figure never recovered after you; after your brother, it did.'"
"Each comment stayed with me, but I never addressed it with her. I tried to move on and leave it in the past. She did a lot of horrible things throughout my life, but her behavior was always ignored because that's the precedent my dad set, where she can do essentially whatever she wants."
"A few months ago, she came to see me because I was desperate for help and sick. Instead of helping, she made my life so much worse. I won't go into details. At one point, I could no longer keep it inside, and I told her that she is a narcissist, to which she responded with, 'It would have been better if I had never had you.'"
"In some ways, it felt really good to hear her come out and say it. It felt good to hear the truth I've always known."
"I don't know what you should do, but I've chosen to not forgive."
"Every time I forgave, I just let her know that she can get away with whatever horrible things she had done. Her apologies were never real apologies. She always found ways to blame me or others for whatever she had done."
"And I'm truly just done with it. As sad as it is to not have a mom, it's sadder to pretend that you have one when in reality you don't... quite the opposite, if anything." - Neos_Mom
"So, OP, what will hurt more: keeping her and the grudge in your life or making a break and going low or no contact with her?"
"Frankly, we've no idea of what she might have been dealing with at the time, but regardless, what she said was said only to cause pain and suffering. 'Sorry' doesn't magic that intent away."
"Me, I think spending time alone or with friends or in therapy away from her might be what you need here. You might come to some sort of acceptance, but if this is something that's just going to keep coming between you, then stop trying to have that relationship." - Tal_Tos_72
After the OP received feedback, she shared a few clarifications from her original post.
"I wanted to clear some things up, take accountability where it's due, and provide some much-needed context from many people commenting the same questions."
"I want to be completely honest. We had many arguments, and I was a rebellious kid. I acted out and argued with my mom."
"I don't want to give off the impression that I was an entirely innocent kid who never did anything wrong and my mom just snapped out of nowhere. We both said hateful and hurtful things to each other during our fights."
"Growing up, the only way she would accept an apology was if I got on my knees and begged her for forgiveness. If I ever asked her to apologize to me, she would say, 'I have nothing to apologize for; you should be the one begging for my forgiveness.'"
The OP had a lot of physical memories, too.
"Things also would turn into physical arguments, not just verbal ones."
"There were times when she would get so angry she would get physical. Like yanking me by my hair, twisting my arms, or throwing things at me (like remotes, a bug spray can, or a radio)."
"When she yanked my hair, I would fight back just to get her to let me go, and she would scream that I was trying to kill her and she would get me arrested. When she twisted my arm, and I begged her to stop because it felt like it was going to break, she would say she hoped it did."
"When she threw objects at me, she would say she wished they would hit my face."
"I remember in middle school, during an argument, she said she wished she could break my face and that she hated it because I look like my dad. I won’t lie, whenever she said things like that, I would say nasty comments about how she chose to have him put us in her."
While the OP wasn't financially ready to move out yet, she hoped to as soon as possible.
"Why haven't I moved out yet? The main reason I haven't been able to move out is financial."
"I wasn't making enough to support myself without worrying about whether I’d end up having to crawl back home."
"Thankfully, I have recently found a better-paying job. My plan is to move out between mid-to-late October, or early November at the latest."
"The only reason I can't leave this exact second is because I have a few legal/administrative things to get cleared up so I’m completely untied from my mom, which will take a few weeks."
The OP also had proof that her mother liked her sister better.
"Has my mom ever admitted to favoring my sister? Yes."
"In arguments, she has explicitly told me that she doesn't see me as her legitimate daughter, and that she adored my sister more and forever will. She has also called me a 'monster,' told me there is a certain type of evil inside of me, and said she was afraid I would be just like my dad and try to harm them."
"She would even tell me that she was telling family and friends these things about me, but then later claim she 'just said it in the moment' and wouldn't be crazy enough to actually tell people that."
"Because I was so confused growing up and didn't know if she was lying or telling the truth, I started avoiding our family when they came over."
"Naturally, that just made things worse because she would get mad at me for avoiding them (even now as an adult), completely ignoring the fact that she was the one who lied about what she told them."
Unfortunately, the OP didn't have support from her father.
"What about my dad? My dad is not in my life."
"He was around sporadically, but never as a stable parent. My parents separated before I was born and divorced when I was two or three."
"Growing up, it was just constant back-and-forth toxicity, with him telling me how toxic my mother was, and her telling me the same about him."
"He would mostly only come over to see my sister, and often used me to care for her if he wanted to take her out to eat. Ultimately, my dad didn't care about anyone else other than my sister (and his drugs)."
"I hope this can clear some questions on the original post. I know I didn't provide many details as I originally should have. I honestly didn't want to post something too long, and I honestly did not expect it to be noticed."
"Thank you all for taking time to talk to me and share your thoughts."
The subReddit fully sided with the OP, pointing out that no matter how heated the moment was, it would never excuse the terrible things the OP's mother had said to her.
If the OP's mother really wanted a relationship with her, she'd drop the defensiveness and demands, offer a genuine apology, and work hard to be better for both of her children.
That takes a very rare kind of person to pull off, and it didn't sound like the OP's mother had that in her.
If you or someone you know is struggling, you can contact the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 988.
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