While having a baby is meant to be an incredible, beautiful, and of course life-changing experience, there's a fair amount of stress involved in the preparation for the big day.
Many parents-to-be fail to understand how much they're getting into until the reality hits them, always all of a sudden, empathized the "Am I the A**hole?" (AITA) subReddit.
Redditor babybright1992 was preparing herself for the next day when she would have a scheduled Caesarean Section (C-Section), only to discover that her husband had made lunch plans with a friend that day.
When he reasoned with her that it would be the last time he could do such a thing for a long time, the Original Poster (OP) worried they did not have the same opinion about their baby-to-be.
She asked the sub:
"AITA for telling my husband I am upset he made lunch plans with his friend the day before my c-section, didn't tell me until the last minute, and didn't consider inviting me?"
The OP was getting ready to have a scheduled C-Section.
"I (31 Female) am nine months pregnant with our first child and am booked in for a Caesarian tomorrow at 7:30 AM."
"My husband (38 Male) is on his second day of parental leave, and he will be off work for a month."
"We had told our family that we would be hanging out at home together all day today, getting the last few things organised for the hospital tomorrow."
"It was my understanding that we would be spending the day together, essentially pottering around the house and spending time together."
"This morning, his Mum suggested she come over for coffee to see us before the baby arrives."
"He said again we would just be home today, so that would be fine and to come over whenever she liked."
But then the OP found out what plans her husband actually had.
"When it got to 11:00 AM, and she hadn't arrived yet, he then said he was annoyed because he was going to be late for a pub lunch with his friend."
"I was surprised to hear he had made lunch plans and said to him, 'You're going for lunch? What about me?'"
"He said he didn't think I'd want to come and that it wasn't a big deal."
"I felt disappointed as he has a habit of not considering or inviting me when making plans during our time off together (which has mostly been our weekends up until now)."
"His Mum came for her visit, which was enjoyable and uneventful."
"His lunch was brought up (by him) and his Mum agreed with me that it was a bit strange he had organized to do something without me today."
"He said again he didn't think it would matter and that it was his last day before becoming a father, as well."
The couple had a heated disagreement about the lunch plans.
"After she left, he asked if I wanted to come for lunch. By this point, I'd decided I didn't want to because I felt like a third wheel and unwanted, so I said no."
"I was setting up the baby monitor when he came in to tell me I should cut him some slack because he is going to be looking after me and the baby for the next month (which is an exaggeration but fine), so he should be able to go out for an hour if he wants."
"He also wanted me to tell him he wasn't going to 'have to hear about this again,' meaning I understood it was fine and wouldn't bring it up again."
"This caused an argument as I wouldn't say it wouldn't get mentioned again, and I ended up telling him that I felt disappointed when he had made plans without me, and I felt unimportant."
"He got angry, I cried, he left for lunch, and I don't know whether I'm in the wrong or not."
"It's not really about him going out with his friend. Usually, it 100% wouldn't matter at all, but as it's our last day together before our baby arrives, I would just like to have been factored into the decision-making and not be told as an aside after plans are already made without me."
"AITA?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
- NTA: Not the A**hole
- YTA: You're the A**hole
- ESH: Everybody Sucks Here
- NAH: No A**holes Here
Some empathized with the OP and understood why she was upset.
"Literally less than a day before she gets a massive incision in her abdomen, and they literally reach inside her, separate her stomach muscles, and pull out the baby? C-sections are very safe for mom and baby, but they are major abdominal surgery, and even planned C-sections have a long recovery time."
"Why does OP's husband need to go TODAY? Why couldn't he have made plans to include OP today of all days since she's the one who will get major surgery tomorrow?"
"Yes, he's becoming a dad, but she's going to be dealing with all the physical trauma of a c-section AND recovery AND breastfeeding AND postpartum hormones. Could he have had some compassion on today, of all days?" - Serious_Sky_9647
"If my husband wants to go out on a boys' day/night/weekend, he always discusses it with me beforehand. Not to seek permission but out of respect and to double-check it doesn't clash with family visiting (we live far away from our family) or in case he's forgotten something."
"That is what this boils down to for me, a lack of respect. It isn't about permission to go, it's about respecting your partner enough to let them know about it."
"I also do the same thing if I am going anywhere." - Kerry0406
"This is 100% NTA: The OP said, 'I felt disappointed as he has a habit of not considering or inviting me when making plans during our time off together (which has mostly been our weekends up until now).'"
"I feel sad for OP that she's having a baby with this AH, which he is. OP is essentially a side piece to her own husband. When he has time off, he hangs out with his friends. He barely considers OP's feelings."
"Do you really think this AH is going to pick up the slack and care for OP and his own child? 10-1 After like a day, he'll be 'burnt out' and need to 'get out of the house,' i.e. drinking with his friends. Then he'll say that he 'doesn't know what to do with a child' and 'mothers should do this kind of stuff,' and he'll give OP crap for not cooking dinner and doing all the chores." - ErikLoveMonger
"It's the refusal to acknowledge her feelings and how he demands that she basically 'get over it' and 'never talk about it again' that makes him an a**hole."
"She has a right to feel hurt. He doesn't have a right to tell her not to." - TheBattyWich
"I massively eye-rolled when he said, 'I didn't think you'd want to come.' Yeah, a pregnant woman doesn't want lunch. I've been pregnant twice, and all I wanted was lunch." - Might_Aware
Others agreed and were concerned by how her husband pushed her feelings away.
"NTA. I was leaning toward NAH. He didn't even think these plans would be something you would care at all about. He was wrong, but that's not an a**hole move."
"No, no... What bothers me is that he cannot accept that you can feel some type of way about this thing. He doesn't just want to accept that there was a disagreement; he insists that he has to win so completely, beat you down so much that you say that you were wrong and he was right, and he will never hear another word about it."
"That's f**ked up. Remember that abusive people often start being abusive when the first baby comes, and their victim is stuck. If it's his way or no way, if he can't leave you room to feel how you feel about something, he's not treating you like a human."
"Maybe he's just stressed and acting a little crazy, but keep an eye on this and be ready to get out." - Kitastrophe8503
"I think I could understand in this case him wanting to go out without her. The guy wants to have what may be his last guys' lunch for a while, because if he is a good husband and father, then he is going to be doing a lot to look after OP while she recovers from the cesarean and they are going to be busy with the baby for a while."
"But the rest of his behavior, like not telling OP his plan in advance and not caring that she feels hurt now, is AH, and concerning, behavior." - Miss-Adelie
"NTA. You were expressing your feelings. Though the wording may have been different, his telling you not to bring up the subject again is undoubtedly problematic."
"Is it typical for him to declare that the conversation is ended and that it won't be brought up again in order to get his way?" - akkakadde
"He's going to be looking after you and the baby for a lot longer than the next month. You're having major abdominal surgery, and the baby is, well, a baby. He just has a month where he can do it without also having to go to work."
"NTA. It's your last day together before you become parents, your whole lives are about to change; I couldn't fathom wanting to make any plans with or see anybody except my partner at that time."
"I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, so I will also say that both of your emotions are probably running very high right now, and maybe he thought lunch with a friend without thinking about the baby would be a welcome distraction from pre-baby anxiety. But he absolutely should've told you ahead of time at a minimum." - criticalvibecheck
"'I didn't think you would want to come' is pretty reasonable, to be honest. I would usually rather let my wife go for lunch with her friends without me, and the same goes for me going out with my friends. I wouldn't for a second expect her to think of me and whether I would want to come."
"But the context of the day was pretty thoughtless. In his mind, he probably thought, 'I'll be gone for two hours and then back, what's the big deal?' So it's not a sacking offense, but he has definitely failed to consider how his wife was feeling about it.
"My gut feeling here, as a father, is that he doesn't realize the shift he's in for. It's pretty hard to explain to someone, you kind of have to experience it. So he's probably not feeling quite as sentimental about today as he will feel in a month's time."
"Going into it, you tend to think that your life will be broadly the same, there'll just be a child in the middle of it too. Like having a dog, but a bit more work."
"If you've no experience with children before this, the complete upending of every aspect of your life comes as quite a shock."
"Don't worry, OP, he'll get the gravity of it. Sometime tomorrow, lol (laughing out loud)."
"Best of luck. My wife went through multiple C-sections, so I've been there before. It's scary, but remember, these are pros. For you, tomorrow will be the biggest day of your life so far, for them it's just another Wednesday. The sights and sounds and the beeps are scary. Focus on the calm voices, and before you know it, you'll have your beautiful baby in your arms."
"If I can give any advice to new parents, it's to take it in shifts. If you're breastfeeding, then you just focus on feeding and then sleeping when the baby isn't feeding. Let your husband sleep through the night as much as humanly possible, and then he'll have the energy to do everything else during the day."
"Even if you don't plan on breastfeeding, with the C-section you're limited for three to six weeks anyway, so you focus on the feeds and let him deal with all of the non-baby stuff."
"I know that sounds very traditional 'Women do baby stuff, and men do men stuff,' but we made the mistake of trying to split everything 50:50 on our first, including being up half the night, and we were dead on our feet within ten days."
"Enjoy the ride! And each other!" - asdrunkasdrunkcanbe
After receiving feedback, the OP chalked up what happened to pre-birth jitters.
"I was NOT expecting the volume of response to this! I'm oscillating between packing hospital clothes and reading comments but will quickly say thank you to everyone who had thoughtful responses."
"We are both feeling a lot with everything going on tomorrow and emotions and tensions were definitely running high."
"He wasn't being his best self at the moment, and I've definitely had my moments of being hormonal and erupting recently."
"So, while I agree I'm NTA in this instance, I'll accept there has been some increased sensitivity and insecurity on my part that added weight to the situation."
"My husband apologized not long after I posted, returned home, and is currently hanging some shelves in the nursery (sorry to those who suggested we end it and super sorry to the one person who suggested he was out with a side chick)."
The OP shared a second, even happier update after the baby was born.
"We arrived home from the hospital last night with our beautiful, healthy baby girl."
"My husband was absolutely incredible throughout the delivery and our time in the maternity ward. He has handled every nappy change and every burping session, helped me with feeding and pumping, kept track of our feeding schedule, made sure I've been as comfortable as possible at all times and has not stopped fawning over our little girl from the second they put her in his arms in the operating theater."
"He left the hospital for a total of one hour in the five days we were there to go and pick some things up for me because he didn't want to leave my side."
The OP was also ready to go to bat for her husband verbally.
"My husband can be very un-empathetic at times, and he can struggle to see things from other perspectives, particularly when he is under pressure or stressed. This is not news to me."
"I have known this about him from the beginning, he has many, many other great qualities that outweigh this flaw (plus a bunch of others; no one is perfect), but when you are arguing with your partner and in an emotional state, it's very easy not to think about the things you love about them and hone in on whatever is upsetting you in the moment."
"I struggle to regulate my emotions in periods of stress and become insecure when I feel my needs aren't being met. I am aware of this and have a great network of support to manage it, but it can be difficult to recognize in the moment."
"None of these things make my husband an abuser. They make him a scared first-time dad who doesn't fully understand the emotional gravity of having a baby interacting with a pregnant woman who has been a Mum already for the last nine months."
"However, I can see why people think this based on what I have written! A pregnant woman comes to Reddit to ask about some scumbag husband who doesn't care about her was always going to illicit the abuser response! In reality, things are more nuanced than one person's side in the middle of an argument."
"Anyway, for anyone following along at home, our daughter has snapped both of us out of our panics, and we are back to being a team, very much besotted with each other and our little girl. I'm off to give her a cuddle and some breakfast."
While the subReddit was initially very concerned about the OP and her support system at home during this major milestone and major surgery, they were inevitably relieved to hear that the OP and her husband had worked everything out.
Sometimes, there's a real problem that could absolutely account for divorce, but other times, some serious last-minute jitters could explain all of those problems away.















Woman Asks If It's Wrong To Hold Grudge After Mom Told Her When She 8 Years Old That She Wished She'd Aborted Her
While some people view having and raising children as the greatest blessing, some parents hold their children's existence against them for their entire lives.
And when they feel that way about their children, they're unfortunately typically pretty honest about it, cringed the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor heavelymango knew from the time she was young that her mother did not really like her and significantly favored her sister.
But when her mother told her at the age of eight that she wished she had aborted her, the Original Poster (OP) held on to that grudge for years after the fact.
She asked the sub:
The OP had a grudge against her mother.
"I (22 Female) have been holding onto a grudge due to something my mom told me when I was roughly eight or nine years old."
"Growing up, I was a rebellious kid and always felt as if my mom favored my older sister. My sister would always get whatever she wanted."
"I know she was born with Down syndrome and always needed more attention and care, but if my sister wanted my tablet, for example, she would have it for the whole day while mine was limited to 30 minutes so she could have it."
"As a kid, I lashed out more because of this. She could take all of my things, but I could never use hers."
During a heated moment, the OP's mother said something unforgivable.
"Eventually, this led to an argument with my mom. I don't recall the whole thing, but it was related to my sister and how I felt my mom didn't care about me or give me the same amount of attention."
"The fight got heated, and I probably told my mom that I hated my sister and her."
"I remember she said back, 'I never wanted you from the start. I knew I should've aborted you when I had the chance.'"
" I didn't know what aborted meant at the time, and I remember I looked it up, and it made me cry. I never forgot it, and it lingers in my mind whenever I am home."
The OP's mother pressured her to "let it go" and move on.
"Even growing up, I still brought it up, and she would get mad, saying I need to let it go and how I'm stubborn for not just forgetting what she said."
"There was even a time in high school when she took me to a therapist, and she complained about how I never dropped what she said."
"She says I need to move on from it because it has affected my relationship with her, and she wants to fix it."
"I know I'm older now and it was so long ago, but it still hurts, and I feel like it's made me not want to have her in my life in the future, and I have told this to her."
"How I don't want her in my life once I move out, get married, or have my own kids."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that this sounded like a core memory more than a grudge.
"The axe forgets. The tree remembers."
"It sounds less like you're holding a grudge and more that this is a formative, core memory for you."
"It won't stop being a core memory (unless maybe with the help of a lot of therapy). Has your mom ever apologized for saying that? Because you don't have to forget to forgive, but if she's not remorseful for saying that terrible thing to her young child (not just remorseful that you remember it), then she probably needs therapy (or is a narcissist/sociopath/similar)."
"You are certainly not obligated to 'get over it.'" - Hot-Can3615
"This is not a 'grudge'; it is pain that is still felt to such a degree. If she said it, then she was thinking it. She'll probably never apologize, but that doesn't mean your pain is or was invalid." - Fast_Register_9480
"NOR. This kind of thing needs a real apology. Like she needs to acknowledge the damage and genuinely care about it. Brushing it off won’t make it go away." - TentacleWolverine
"NOR. Did she really want to fix things? She basically just told you to get over it from the start instead of giving you a sincere apology."
"That isn't working on anything. She wants you to get over it so she can pretend that she never said it, so she doesn't have to feel bad about what she did. It doesn't sound like she cares much about how you feel."
"She just doesn't want to deal with it. For that reason, I would still have issues with what she said." - Chemical-Ad6809
"If your relationship with your mother is being affected by the actions of your mother, your mother is responsible for fixing it."
"You should know you probably aren't ever going to get closure, but you don't have to swallow it down. It helps to be the person you needed when you were younger out loud to yourself, but especially to others."
"For example: My name is Liz, and my mom told me to go ahead and do it already and save us all the heartache when I finally had the courage to tell her about how much I've been struggling with self-harm and suicidal ideation. I'm never going to forgive her for that, and we have never been close as a result of her actions."
"You aren't holding onto a grudge; you have a core memory of your mother distilling her feelings into a world-shattering sentence."
"You did not have a secure attachment before and can't have one now because of the deep trauma. You do not apologize for being stabbed."
"Find another therapist. I mean it. Someone who cares about your well-being wouldn't force you to apologize for being verbally abused as a child. I'm 29 now, and I lived through it. I still struggle with suicidal ideation daily, but once I stopped relying on my mom and unstable sources for support, my life got better immediately."
"You want things for comfort and familiarity. Don't let your mom or your therapist gaslight you into crossing a boundary."
"It might help to ask for a written five-part apology from your mom. 1. Acknowledge what you did 2. Say why it was wrong 3. Promise not to do it again 4. Ask how to make amends. 5. Share your feelings at this time if there's anything you'd like to say."
"My mom can be a good person and a bad mom and role model. Being in your own company is so much better than poor company." - PotLuckyPodcast
Others hoped the OP would go no contact with her mother sooner rather than later.
"NOR. It’s emotional abuse. And you do not owe her closeness after that, especially as she refuses to be accountable for that and try to make it up to you."
"She knows you have her number, and she can’t forgive you for knowing what a colloidal b***h she is."
"It’s unlikely that will change; it will at least be turned back on you with her the victim."
"Stop expecting her to apologize. If she doesn’t pay your bills, ghost her." - SnooCheesecakes2723
"My mom said something similar. My brother and I were adopted, and when I was a teen, in front of a church lady, she said, 'We didn't even really want you, but the people didn't want to split y'all up, so we just took you, too.'"
"Me and the church lady were shook. When I say my falbbers were ghasted. Like huh? She didn't remember saying that when I brought it up years after the fact."
"I also got grounded two times for two separate nine weeks (for C's on my report card) and a three and a half to four months (for smoking at 16 and getting caught because she liked to just pop up out of nowhere), and we just had a talk about that, and she didn't even remember."
"She said, 'No, I didn't. I never grounded you for that long,' and when I gave my rebuttal, she said, 'Well, if I did, it definitely wasn't for no nine weeks or months,' and this started because she was praising me for reading so much and liking books. I said, 'Well, when you were grounded like me, that's all I could do (no TV, no friends outside of school, no music, nothing but my room and books)."
"There's a reason I only call or answer her calls once or twice every few weeks. And I only call to get food, really..." - ManicalMoe
"‘Fine, I'm sorry’ is not an apology."
"Whilst I’m sure it was said in anger, most things said in anger have a grain of truth. There are also some things that no half-decent parent ever says to their children, no matter how angry they are, and this is one of them! It also sounds like she has made repeated similar comments of not wanting you as her child."
"I understand her eldest had a disability, but this is no excuse for neglecting and emotionally abusing her younger child. Lots of families deal with a child with additional needs whilst still managing to prioritise their other kids. Children with Down syndrome are capable of understanding ‘that’s your sister's, not yours; give it back’ !! It sounds like your mum has mental health issues?"
"Do you have a present father or other family you can turn to?"
"Protect your peace. Your mum has hurt you time and time again, honestly, for no real gain other than momentarily satisfying her anger. You owe this woman nothing." - Background_Term9810
"I went through something similar. When I was a little girl, my mother used to make comments that implied she didn't want me, though it was never that explicit. 'I only had you because your brother wanted a sister,' and 'My figure never recovered after you; after your brother, it did.'"
"Each comment stayed with me, but I never addressed it with her. I tried to move on and leave it in the past. She did a lot of horrible things throughout my life, but her behavior was always ignored because that's the precedent my dad set, where she can do essentially whatever she wants."
"A few months ago, she came to see me because I was desperate for help and sick. Instead of helping, she made my life so much worse. I won't go into details. At one point, I could no longer keep it inside, and I told her that she is a narcissist, to which she responded with, 'It would have been better if I had never had you.'"
"In some ways, it felt really good to hear her come out and say it. It felt good to hear the truth I've always known."
"I don't know what you should do, but I've chosen to not forgive."
"Every time I forgave, I just let her know that she can get away with whatever horrible things she had done. Her apologies were never real apologies. She always found ways to blame me or others for whatever she had done."
"And I'm truly just done with it. As sad as it is to not have a mom, it's sadder to pretend that you have one when in reality you don't... quite the opposite, if anything." - Neos_Mom
"So, OP, what will hurt more: keeping her and the grudge in your life or making a break and going low or no contact with her?"
"Frankly, we've no idea of what she might have been dealing with at the time, but regardless, what she said was said only to cause pain and suffering. 'Sorry' doesn't magic that intent away."
"Me, I think spending time alone or with friends or in therapy away from her might be what you need here. You might come to some sort of acceptance, but if this is something that's just going to keep coming between you, then stop trying to have that relationship." - Tal_Tos_72
After the OP received feedback, she shared a few clarifications from her original post.
"I wanted to clear some things up, take accountability where it's due, and provide some much-needed context from many people commenting the same questions."
"I want to be completely honest. We had many arguments, and I was a rebellious kid. I acted out and argued with my mom."
"I don't want to give off the impression that I was an entirely innocent kid who never did anything wrong and my mom just snapped out of nowhere. We both said hateful and hurtful things to each other during our fights."
"Growing up, the only way she would accept an apology was if I got on my knees and begged her for forgiveness. If I ever asked her to apologize to me, she would say, 'I have nothing to apologize for; you should be the one begging for my forgiveness.'"
The OP had a lot of physical memories, too.
"Things also would turn into physical arguments, not just verbal ones."
"There were times when she would get so angry she would get physical. Like yanking me by my hair, twisting my arms, or throwing things at me (like remotes, a bug spray can, or a radio)."
"When she yanked my hair, I would fight back just to get her to let me go, and she would scream that I was trying to kill her and she would get me arrested. When she twisted my arm, and I begged her to stop because it felt like it was going to break, she would say she hoped it did."
"When she threw objects at me, she would say she wished they would hit my face."
"I remember in middle school, during an argument, she said she wished she could break my face and that she hated it because I look like my dad. I won’t lie, whenever she said things like that, I would say nasty comments about how she chose to have him put us in her."
While the OP wasn't financially ready to move out yet, she hoped to as soon as possible.
"Why haven't I moved out yet? The main reason I haven't been able to move out is financial."
"I wasn't making enough to support myself without worrying about whether I’d end up having to crawl back home."
"Thankfully, I have recently found a better-paying job. My plan is to move out between mid-to-late October, or early November at the latest."
"The only reason I can't leave this exact second is because I have a few legal/administrative things to get cleared up so I’m completely untied from my mom, which will take a few weeks."
The OP also had proof that her mother liked her sister better.
"Has my mom ever admitted to favoring my sister? Yes."
"In arguments, she has explicitly told me that she doesn't see me as her legitimate daughter, and that she adored my sister more and forever will. She has also called me a 'monster,' told me there is a certain type of evil inside of me, and said she was afraid I would be just like my dad and try to harm them."
"She would even tell me that she was telling family and friends these things about me, but then later claim she 'just said it in the moment' and wouldn't be crazy enough to actually tell people that."
"Because I was so confused growing up and didn't know if she was lying or telling the truth, I started avoiding our family when they came over."
"Naturally, that just made things worse because she would get mad at me for avoiding them (even now as an adult), completely ignoring the fact that she was the one who lied about what she told them."
Unfortunately, the OP didn't have support from her father.
"What about my dad? My dad is not in my life."
"He was around sporadically, but never as a stable parent. My parents separated before I was born and divorced when I was two or three."
"Growing up, it was just constant back-and-forth toxicity, with him telling me how toxic my mother was, and her telling me the same about him."
"He would mostly only come over to see my sister, and often used me to care for her if he wanted to take her out to eat. Ultimately, my dad didn't care about anyone else other than my sister (and his drugs)."
"I hope this can clear some questions on the original post. I know I didn't provide many details as I originally should have. I honestly didn't want to post something too long, and I honestly did not expect it to be noticed."
"Thank you all for taking time to talk to me and share your thoughts."
The subReddit fully sided with the OP, pointing out that no matter how heated the moment was, it would never excuse the terrible things the OP's mother had said to her.
If the OP's mother really wanted a relationship with her, she'd drop the defensiveness and demands, offer a genuine apology, and work hard to be better for both of her children.
That takes a very rare kind of person to pull off, and it didn't sound like the OP's mother had that in her.
If you or someone you know is struggling, you can contact the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 988.
To find help outside the United States, the International Association for Suicide Prevention has resources available at https://findahelpline.com/i/iasp