There are some situations you just can't lie your way out of.
But that won't stop cheaters and chronic liars from trying, side-eyed the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor LRod0884 had already suspected their partner of cheating in the past but didn't have "enough evidence" to confirm that was, in fact, what was happening.
But when their husband inexplicably "missed" his flight home from a work trip and then showed up with a series of marks that looked like hickeys, the Original Poster (OP) was more convinced than ever and wondered if there was any chance of saving their marriage.
They asked the sub:
"Am I crazy for thinking my husband, who came home from a work trip with hickeys on his body, cheated on me?"
The OP's husband came home with suspicious bruises from a work trip.
"I really need an outside perspective, because at this point, I don’t know if I’m letting my past affect how I’m seeing this, or if I’m being made to question something that seems pretty obvious to me."
"My husband recently went away for a work trip. On his way home, he got stuck at the airport and ended up having an unexpected overnight layover."
"I had driven about two hours (one way) to pick him up, only to find out he wasn’t going to make it home that night. He barely communicated with me and didn’t even contact me that night."
"I ended up having to make the two-hour drive again the next day to get him."
"When he finally came home, I noticed marks on his chest and shoulders when he went to go and shower."
"For context, we’re not talking about one questionable little bruise. There are probably around seven separate marks. They’re not on his neck. They’re around his chest and shoulder joint/upper shoulder area."
"I know what older versus fresh bruising looks like, and these look new to me. The best way I can describe their appearance is almost like the round bruises you might get from being hit with paintballs. To me, they look like hickeys, just in places that would normally be covered by a shirt."
"He completely denies that they’re hickeys, but he also can’t give me a reasonable explanation for what they actually ARE or how he got them."
"At one point, he tried to explain them by saying that when he drinks excessively, he sometimes wants to fight."
"I shut that explanation down because it sounded absurd to me. If anything, that comment just told me that he apparently got extremely drunk that night."
"But even if he did get into a fight, how exactly would fighting result in seven round, bruise-like marks scattered across his chest and shoulder joint? I would expect other injuries, scrapes, soreness, bruised knuckles, a black eye, etc."
"Maybe I’m wrong, which is partly why I’m posting this, but his explanation didn’t make sense to me."
To the OP, this wouldn't be the first time this happened.
"There’s also history here. When we were dating, there was another situation where I believe he was unfaithful."
"He denied that too, but I saw text messages between him and another woman that very strongly implied they had been intimate."
"I stayed, but I don’t think my trust in him ever fully recovered."
"Ever since then, I’ve struggled with trusting him and have carried a lot of stress and insecurity in our relationship."
"I’ve gained weight from stress, my sex drive has gone down significantly, and I know those things have affected our marriage. I can acknowledge the problems on my side of our relationship."
"But what is getting to me the most right now isn’t even necessarily the possibility that he cheated. It’s the denying. Part of me honestly wonders if I could forgive him and work on our marriage through counseling if he came to me and said, 'Yes, I screwed up. This is what happened. I want to fix this and figure out why I keep hurting you.'"
"Instead, he tells me I’m crazy. He says I don’t trust him. And now he’s even told me that because I keep accusing him of cheating, it makes him want to actually do what I’m accusing him of doing."
"That statement really bothered me. I’ve always said I wouldn’t be the woman who accepted this kind of treatment. I’ve been cheated on in previous relationships too, so now I’m questioning myself."
The OP felt increasingly conflicted.
"Am I carrying trauma from those relationships and his previous behavior into this situation and automatically assuming the worst?"
"Or is my distrust completely reasonable considering the circumstances?"
"I don’t want hundreds of comments that just say, 'divorce him.' I genuinely want perspective, including from people who have been on either side of infidelity and managed to repair their marriage."
"If your spouse came home from an overnight layover with around seven fresh, unexplained, round bruise/hickey-like marks across their chest and shoulders, couldn’t explain how they got there, and had a previous history of suspected infidelity, what would you think?"
"Am I overreacting? Is there a reasonable explanation for marks like this that I’m overlooking?"
"And for anyone who has rebuilt a marriage after cheating: how do you rebuild trust when you feel like the lying and denial might actually hurt more than knowing the truth?"
"AIO?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
- NOR: Not Overreacting
- YOR: You're Overreacting
Though the OP didn't want "just divorce him" advice, some couldn't help but tell them to just divorce him.
"I would call a divorce lawyer over driving TWO HOURS to pick him up because he couldn't be bothered to tell you he wouldn't arrive that night. And I would NOT have driven back to pick him up the next day."
"Mr. Inconsiderate can find his own way home. And YES, he is cheating." - Rose76Tyler
"OP, you know the answer here. He is obviously cheating and somehow thinks he’s smart enough to get away with it and that you’ll believe his lies."
"Document everything. He doesn’t sound like a trustworthy person. I don’t think it can be rebuilt here."
"He thinks you’re an id**t. Don’t let him be right by actually believing his foolishness." - isthaturcrocodile
"You already suspected him of cheating, but treating you like you are a mor*n is a bridge too far."
"And basically saying because she accused him it MAKES him want to cheat. What a pathetic creep." - ForLark
"Not just the hickeys, but letting her drive for two hours to pick him up without telling her about his 'layover' and barely communicating is a huge indicator also. He's an a**hole just for that alone." - SIDHE_LAMP
"NOR. He got away with it before, so why wouldn't he think he'd get away with it again? And it looks like he might."
"Girl, get your head out of your rear end. He's making a fool out of you." - Redd_on_the_hedd1213
"I know OP is asking for insight and for people not to jump on the divorce bandwagon, but like... we all know what's happening here."
"OP, you can continue to stay with a cheater if you want. That's your decision. If you want confirmation he's cheating, you're not going to get it from him. But you don't need his permission to leave."
"He literally insulted you and is refusing to communicate. What exactly are you trying to save here? You might love him, but he has no concern for you." - citrusthievingharlot
Others tried to offer a more well-rounded response, explaining that the "hickeys" could be little else.
"I’m sitting here wondering if he got in a fight with an octopus." - wackyvorlorn
"I was going to give him the benefit of the doubt and ask if he got a massage with cupping, but the other details, like being no contact all evening, make me believe he had company. Maybe he’s embarrassed about who he was with." - Georgia-Peaches81
"Unless it is that cupping perfect round bruises (which he'd tell you about having done), then you know what you know. NOR."
"Warning: He's going to make it look like he did it because you were always accusing him of it. He's going to come out with how unhappy you two have been for so long."
"He's going to imply that you not wanting sex is because of you and not because of what you have been through. Don't fall for any of it." - 3username20charactrz
"NOR, and the others seem to have the practical advice. Let me just address the 'bruises' as someone who did MMA and did a lot of bare-knuckle fighting. TL;DR: if you think they're hickeys and he's saying they're from a bar fight, he's lying."
"The most common bruises you get to the chest and shoulder from fighting (punches, kicks, elbows, or from being gripped) take time to become visible, usually 36 hours or so. They start as muscular tenderness with potentially some swelling, but they don't turn visible until the hematoma seeps from the muscles through the fat in the layers above toward the skin."
"The coloration starts as a jaundiced yellow look (which may not show up at all even at 36 hours for darker-skinned individuals) which progresses through to reds, purples, and browns over the following days."
"A hickey is caused by suction pulling on the skin, not by blunt force pushing into the fat and muscle, so it looks totally different. The suction pulls the skin in such a way that capillaries near the surface rupture, releasing mostly oxygenated blood to the surface immediately. Because of that, they show up right away, start bright red or slightly violet, and skip the jaundiced yellow phase."
"Simply put, a day after the event, you wouldn't confuse a bar fight bruise with a hickey since they look totally different at that phase."
"Even a hostile bite wouldn't be mistaken for a hickey, as that would bruise the fat and muscle and not pull the blood to the skin. A seductive bite with suction could have both, but you're not getting that in a bar fight. Similarly, while there are fight injuries that bring that bright blood to the surface right away (like falling into sharp furniture or getting hit by something like a brick), they have additional bruising that makes it very clear this is an injury, not a hickey."
"If he claims he was so drunk he can't remember if he got in a fight, you'd expect more typical fight injuries, too. Things like hematomas on the face, black eyes, fall injuries, missing teeth/mouth injuries, and bruising on his hands and arms. Even a good, sober fighter tends to get a few bruises from a bare-knuckle fight, and they don't look like hickeys; and if he was so sloshed he can't even remember what happened, I'd expect him to have some offensive or facial injuries to show for it."
"So, yeah... sorry to be the confirmer of bad news that I think you already suspected. He probably had a drunken makeout session, at least based on the 'injuries' and his story." - countvonruckus
But since the OP seemed so fixated on saving their marriage, a few entertained the idea of a doctor's appointment.
"NOR. How many days has it been since he came home? Tell him you want to take photos of them. Don’t explain why."
"See what his reaction is. And regardless, say you need photos because either he’s ill or cheating, and you need proof of both to then take to the proper professional: a medical doctor or a divorce lawyer." - Okayest_mom_3
"She doesn't want to leave him. She wants us to tell her how to ignore that this happened...also happy stories of people who stayed with cheating spouses and it turned out ok. (I don't know any, do ya'll?)" - scarlettcrush
"He was injured on a work trip. Best to document everything, right?! Gotta document for the workers' comp!" - brencoop
"Honestly, just gaslight him back and say you wanna take a picture of it to see if he has any medical concerns and what to do about them."
"Make it seem like you’re sooooo concerned and, 'Oh no, then I guess the only other explanation is something’s wrong, and if you got into a fight, you may have internal bleeding in your chest, so I want to ask Google to make sure it’s nothing serious.'"
"Pretend you’re googling 'random bruises illness' while simultaneously googling divorce lawyers. Leave him. At this point, you’re underreacting." - Prudent-Science-9225
"Sounds like a serious medical condition! Random unexplained bruising could be a symptom of a blood-clotting disorder. I think he should go to his doctor for an explanation OR he’s lying and made out with somebody." - babye12345
"Maybe he actually got blackout drunk and took himself to a physio. Those weird cup things they use leave hickey marks. Everyone loves a 1:00 AM physio." - lunchbox36
Though it was commendable that the OP wanted to try to make their marriage work, the subReddit reassured them that this was one of those cases where it wasn't a good idea.
Not only had they suspected infidelity before, but it was clear that their husband was lying about something now, whether infidelity, alcoholism, or something else, and if they didn't have trust, they certainly didn't have a solid marriage.















Woman Breaks Up With 'Clingy' Boyfriend For Making Joke About 'Getting With' Her Sister
As much as we might want to date someone, there's no point in trying to gain the attention and affection of someone who does not want to reciprocate.
Dating someone "similar" to fill that void isn't a good look, either, cringed the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Flashy-External1666 had been long-distance dating a guy from her friend group for about a month, even though he'd expressed his attraction to her older sister repeatedly before they started dating.
When her sister entered a new relationship, the Original Poster (OP) was hurt and disgusted that her boyfriend insinuated that he could have been trying to "get with" her sister while he was instead busy dating her.
She asked the sub:
The OP was aware that her boyfriend had his eye on someone close to her before dating her.
"I (19 Female) am with M (21 Male), and we've been together for a month. We were friends before this, for a while."
"For some background, when we were in a friend group, he'd always talk about how my sister (23 Female) was super hot and how he wanted her, but she was in a relationship at the time."
When he found out that her sister had been in-between relationships, he had an unsavory reaction.
"Earlier today, I mentioned to him how my sister started seeing this new guy, and I was super proud of her, because she went through a lot with her last relationship."
"His immediate reply was, 'Dang,' one month too late' with a sad emoji, insinuating that he was one month too late to get with her, because we've been together for a month."
You can see the text message exchange here:
The OP was immediately turned off by the idea of dating him.
"After I got upset and he apologized, he immediately sent me a reel that said, 'When she's already upset about me, but I have a second joke in mind.'"
"I feel like he genuinely doesn't care about me."
"He has also gotten weirdly clingy within the month, like red-flag clingy."
"He keeps trying to say how he loves me, wants to marry me, and wants me to go live with him. But he also always brings up my exes and gets super jealous when HE mentions them."
"I don't know what to do. Should I block him??"
"He's mentioned before that I would need to block him on everything if we ever broke up because he'd never leave me alone (we are currently long-distance)."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some were grossed out by the boyfriend's text message and understood why the OP was upset.
"The fact that he wrote all that out and even added a little emoji at the end and still decided to send it, knowing it would be hurtful for you."
"Seems like he’s texted that to see if he could get away with it. Either way, you don’t say something like that to someone you care about…" - Oven_Traditional
"NOR. Ew! That’s so disrespectful coming from someone who should be thrilled to have you."
"I’m team 'dump him.' If he has a brother, maybe ask for his brother’s number as you end it just to see how he likes it." - Entire-Tonight-1463
"NOR. He's not joking about your sister. Based on what he's said about her in the past, it would have been a wise move to NOT date him at all. PERIOD."
'There's a possibility that he's clingy/close to you for the purpose of indirectly keeping an eye on your sister. Release him and let him go, thereby setting yourself free from foolishness." - AtlJazzy2024
"He’s not for you… Break up with him and block him. You deserve a guy who treasures YOU!" - Muted-Lynx-8745
"He might be your boyfriend, but you're not his girlfriend. In his mind, your sister is." - Save-your-spoons
Others urged the OP to block her boyfriend and move on.
"Girl, it's been a month. Let that loser go." - sleepymelfho
"He kept OP as a backup, while circling her sister's orbit. What has happened to transparency and honesty in relationships? All I read now is obnoxious men doing obnoxious things to their partners."
"OP, he's keeping you around to stay close to your sister. You deserve better... NOR." - ColdHandGee
"NOR. You know that he's not joking about wanting your sister. He told on himself before you even got together, talking about how hot she was. Believe him."
"Break up with him and cut him off immediately. I can't believe you ever agreed to date him in the first place. I'd never want to date someone who had the hots for someone else in my immediate circle, whether that was a sibling or a friend." - Lanky_Mud_8148
"You’ve been dating one month, and that’s one month too long."
"He’s not joking about your sister. He fancies her more than you, and you’re the consolation prize. He will pursue her given the chance."
"Time to dump him." - Special_Wind_6708
"NOR. He can't have your sister, so you're just the next best thing. Him being a clingy weirdo that 'will never leave you alone' is the cherry on top."
"You know what to do. Dump him and block him on everything. If anyone from the friend group asks, just tell them what you told us. And you REALLY should warn your sister; you have receipts." - sdoM-bmuD
"Ditch him. Honestly. What are you waiting for?" - forget_me_not_uwu
"NOR at all. Cut this loser out of all channels of your life."
"I wouldn’t block, though. Just ghost so that he can watch you become happier without him as the ultimate revenge because I’m petty like that, and he clearly deserves it."
"ALSO, if he's as creepy and clingy as he sounds, you can have him muted, so he can see your activity, but you won't have to see his... But you'd have all of his messages as receipts if he ever became threatening or stalkerish for police purposes."
"For more context: My mum started dating my dad (when she was 19, too), who initially tried to go for her older sister (two years older) and got rejected."
"After three years of dating, seven years of engagement, and 20 years of marriage where she put up with an incompetent man-child that wouldn’t do anything for himself and expected her to completely cater to him while he berated her and treated her like s**t..."
"...it ended in him cheating on her with a waitress for over a year and denying it until my mum had literal photographic evidence, to which he had the audacity to respond with the reasoning that she was the reason he was 'driven to cheat' (as if that was even remotely close to the truth and the only option to solve his ‘problems’)."
"Save yourself, girl. This man-child can learn to pine over you and your sister from afar as you both skip into the sunset together, moving on with your lives and into better relationships that fulfill you the way you deserve!" - peachycritter
Some cautioned the OP to also cover her tracks after the breakup, as he sounded worse than "clingy" to them.
"The actual scary part isn't even the sister joke; it's, 'he said he'd never leave me alone if we broke up,' only one month in."
"That line gave me chills, and that alone would have me Googling how to block someone on every platform that exists." - babydoodle91
"Ew. These super clingy guys right out the gate are scary. Please watch your step, and erase your tracks." - Immabirb
"He sounds like a stalker... Drop him now, fast. And block him everywhere." - Admirable_Program720
"NOR, yes, you block him, and you keep him out of your life, and you tell mutual friends that if they try to facilitate contact between you two, you will block them as well. He isn't joking." - JustAsICanBeSoCruel
"I watch way too much crime for this!"
"Girl, block him. Also tell your sister to block him, too; he’s obsessed with her." - MrsRoronoaZoro
"NOR. You're underreacting, honestly."
"He wants your sister, but you're close enough. He's obsessed with her and won't give it up even though he has someone he 'wants to marry.'"
"Also, he's not lying. He probably will stalk you online afterwards; please be careful." - Phoenix-Phire-38
"NOR at all. Your post kept adding on more red flags with each additional sentence. I know you’re young, but he’s toxic, and yes, you will need to block him."
"Breaking up with someone you have strong feelings for is really difficult, so when you leave, you should make sure to lean on friends and family and keep yourself distracted with things you like and find engaging." - query_tech_sec
"The s**t with your sister is nothing compared to the love-bombing and jealousy. This guy is trouble, and scary, and you will have done the right thing when you leave him and maintain the distance between the two of you. NOR." - potatomeeple
After receiving feedback, the OP posted an update, but it seemed to be only the beginning.
"Thank you for making me feel less crazy."
"I blocked him on everything and deactivated my Instagram."
"He DM'ed a girl that I had posted ONCE on my Instagram Stories, asking about me."
"I'm not sure if he's going to keep trying to talk to me, but I hope not."
The subReddit's internal alarm bells were ringing while reading the OP's post, and they hoped that she'd leave her boyfriend in every sense of the word. They already lived long-distance, but she needed to cut him off in every other sense.
Not only was it obvious that he wanted someone else and was with the OP to "make up for it," but his "promises" of not leaving her alone if she ever broke up with him were love-bombing and stalker-like, at best.