We've all experienced feelings of being replaced, maybe because of shifting family dynamics, a change in a friend group, or even new roles at work, and we can all agree that it sucks.
But feeling like we're not the most important person in the room doesn't give us the green light to ruin the relationships of everyone else in that room, argued the "Am I the A**hole?" (AITAH) subReddit.
Redditor Popular_Flower_9287 wasn't sure what to think when her youngest son started acting out after his baby sister was born.
But when she discovered that his older sister, her stepdaughter, had been filling his head with concerns about now being a middle, "less important" child, the Original Poster (OP) knew she had to act fast.
She asked the sub:
"AITAH for moving out with my three kids, including my infant, because I am starting to hate my stepdaughter?"
The OP used to be incredibly happy with her family life.
"I've been with my husband for eight years. He has a thirteen-year-old girl, my stepdaughter (nicknamed 'SD' here). I have a 14-year-old son and a nine-year-old son from a previous relationship. My husband and I have a five-month-old daughter we had together."
"Prior to my giving birth, life was pretty smooth sailing. We did family trips often, had Sunday family night, and we designated one-on-one time with each of the kids (except my oldest, who has determined he's too cool for us (laughing out loud), but if he wanted, it was always available)."
"There were a few fights between the kids, but nothing major, and they were usually resolved within minutes."
But the family dynamic had recently shifted for the worse.
"Since I had the baby, everything has gone downhill. My home has become a warzone between my youngest son and my stepdaughter. They are physically fighting each other constantly, 90% of the time with my stepdaughter instigating."
"She knows my son has ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder) and ADHD (Attention-Deficit and Hyperactivity Disorder) and doesn't like being touched, so she will go up to him and poke him continuously even after being told to stop and then calls him psycho when he flips out (he can sometimes have a bit of a violent rage, which doctors say is common with ADHD)."
"But she does this literally on purpose. She purposely provokes him to a point where my husband and I have told her at least eight times (I lost count after that) that she is to stay away from him entirely for the rest of the day."
The OP was alarmed by her son's recent shift in behavior.
"Well, I've noticed lately that my youngest son has been getting incredibly emotional."
"When I try to get him to talk about it, he screams at me. It's been a huge thing and I've been over the top stressed out about it."
"He is in therapy (behavioral, occupational, and regular therapy; my SD is also in therapy)."
"Well... his behavioral therapist opened up to me about two weeks back, saying that she was concerned about my son and asked specifically about how much influence my SD has over my son. She said a lot of stuff had been said in therapy."
"I won't go into extreme detail, but it was enough to warrant a conversation with my husband and him cracking down on what his daughter was saying to my son. He eventually ended up grounding her for that and something else she did (unrelated), and it just made it worse."
The OP finally figured out what was happening to her son.
"Then this morning around 6:00 AM (the kids are on school vacation), my son just started flipping out over nothing. I tried talking to him, and he told me, 'Shut up, you never even loved me anyway!'"
"I asked him what he was talking about, and he just screamed at me to shut up again."
"My SD, who was at the table eating cereal, said, 'Get used to it. Like I told you, nobody loves middle kids. You should just move out now.'"
"He stormed off to his room. I asked her if she was the reason why he was acting like that this morning."
"She said, 'No, you are. I didn't make him a middle kid. All I did was explain to him that he will never be loved again, but I didn't make that happen. You did.'"
That was the final straw for the OP.
"My husband walked in and told his daughter to go to her room and took her phone, yet again."
"He went to talk to me and apologize, but I just kinda cut him off and said, 'I actually can't do this anymore. Your daughter is destroying my son's life and making him think that I hate him, and I am starting to hate that kid to the point where I can't be near her.'"
"I said, 'So I'm going to leave. I would like you and your kid out of my home within two months.' (I own the property and have for 15 years.)"
The OP's husband was certain she was making something out of nothing.
"My husband's now trying to argue that this can be fixed, but it's come to a point where I hate his child and don't want her near me or my son at all (she's great with the baby)."
"He says he can't believe I'm throwing us away over something that 'can be fixed,' but I don't think it can."
"AITAH?"
In the comments, the OP detailed her stepdaughter's preoccupation with being a middle child.
"She is a middle child in both households, so she talks about 'middle child syndrome' OFTEN."
"Her mom had a baby two years ago, and that's when this stuff started happening. Originally, I was all Team SD, so when she came to us and said that her mom was neglecting her and pushing her away, I wanted to help her."
"But then her mom told a different story. She said that my SD started claiming middle child syndrome because her mom wouldn't get her a desk and a new laptop. I thought there was more to the story at that time and welcomed my SD with open arms, zero questions asked."
"But her behavior revolving around middle child syndrome, her poking at my son and putting her hands on him, and her telling him that I don't love him anymore now that he's a middle child started immediately following me giving birth to the baby."
"Like... when they came to visit me and the baby in the hospital, he was already asking me if I didn't love him anymore because that's what SD told him. I still tried including her and him both in absolutely everything. We still had one-on-one time. We did our best to continue our original schedules, just with an extra person in the house."
"My son was receptive to it. She was not. Like, 30 minutes after we returned home from me bringing her out to eat and to get her hair and nails done, she told me that I never do anything for her and that I simply don't like her because she's a middle kid. It's become an obsession with her."
The OP was concerned about her stepdaughter's fixation.
"She's been in therapy since maybe two months after we got custody of her, and more recently, she was put in behavioral therapy, but nothing is working. I'm not allowed at the sessions, so I'm not entirely sure what's going on, but it doesn't seem to be helping."
"I'm not trying to play doctor here but like, she has a lot of the same symptoms my son does. She gets fixated on things and repeats them constantly. For example, my son (up until last year) was completely obsessed with Spiderman and had been for about four years. Everything was Spiderman."
"With my SD, her obsession is her being a middle child. Every other sentence out of her mouth is about her being a middle child. I've been trying to convince my husband to have an evaluation done for ADHD or possibly ASD (because I don't know which disability comes with fixation or repetitive behavior), but he won't because SD's biological mom thinks that nothing is wrong."
"It's not just this, either... she also destroys everything (she rips up paper, which she then hoards in bags, she rips up her bed because she 'can't help it,' she has severe intrusive thoughts, etc). But he won't push it and I have no say."
The OP couldn't see a way to continue the relationship.
"And she won't move back in with her mom. SD moved in with us two years ago, shortly after her mother gave birth to her baby. There are two sides to the story, of course. SD claims that her mom started treating her differently and doesn't love her anymore. Her mom claims that SD started claiming middle child syndrome because she wouldn't buy her a new laptop and desk (I had just bought her a laptop nine months prior for her birthday)."
"Based on what I've seen and witnessed, I think I believe her mom. Just because I told her a few days back that she couldn't ride her bike to her friend's house (it was pouring rain) and she said, 'This right here is the reason why I have middle child syndrome.' So she uses that excuse for everything."
"She doesn't want to go back to her mom's house, and my husband won't force her. But if he won't 'force' her, then I don't see a way to make this work."
"AITAH?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
- NTA: Not the A**hole
- YTA: You're the A**hole
- ESH: Everybody Sucks Here
- NAH: No A**holes Here
Some empathized with the OP and felt it was time for a change, even if that meant moving.
"NTA. Maybe it can be fixed. But it sure as h**l cannot be fixed while that kid is in your home. 13 is old enough to understand bullying." - hideme21
"You're not the a**hole."
"The toxic dynamic between your stepdaughter and your son is deeply concerning, and your efforts to address it have been met with resistance. Your decision to prioritize the well-being of your son and create a healthier environment for him is both understandable and necessary." - NoCardiologist5100
"NTA. It has gotten worse in the five months since you've had a child. Unfortunately, it can't be 'fixed' in time to protect your son or to undo the damage your stepdaughter has done."
"It's a really sad situation, but you do need to protect your children, and it seems that the daughter's therapy isn't helping her in meaningful ways." - BefuddledPolydactyls
"OP's son needs his mother. My nephew has ADHD and requires twice as much time, and also my nephew was teased in kindergarten. I can understand how she feels, my family has isolated themselves from some people why they tease my nephew, and it's horrible."
"I am so sorry for OP but the family dynamic is not working. Her husband needs to talk to his daughter about breaking the 'middle child' issue." - Rude_lovely
"I'd tell my husband, 'You want to stay married? Okay, then she goes to boarding school, you visit her there, or you can visit her at her mom's, or you can visit her at your parents' house, but not here. She doesn't ever come near my kids again, and that includes the baby.'"
"This is the only possible alternative. Either the family separates or the daughter is moved out and excluded from living in this home. It's, unfortunately, that simple. She's caused too much pain already, and it doesn't sound like she has any remorse or desire to stop." - Danivelle
Others agreed and challenged the OP's husband to step up his game.
"With what the stepdaughter has said and how OP mentioned she's a middle child in both her homes, this is super hard-core projection. Her dad and bio-mom really need to see about making sure she feels loved and wanted." - OujiaBard
"It makes no sense to permit a toxic environment to continue while they try to 'fix' this."
"OP is understandably at her wit's end, between a newborn, an upset and hurting child, and another child who may also be hurting in her own way but who is very much causing hurt to others."
"Husband needs to pull his head out of his rear. What he's tried so far hasn't worked, so another tactic is needed. There's no reason he should have permitted things to go this far and get this bad." - majesticgoatsparkles
"The things the stepdaughter has been saying to her younger brother, if this was an adult saying it to the child, people would scream emotional abuse."
"Just because she's 13 doesn't make it any less abusive nor impactful on him. Maybe more so as she's one of his 'siblings'. She's telling him no one, including her, loves him. Again, if she were over 18..."
"The dad needs it framed for him that way. This isn't silly sibling s**t anymore, this has escalated to the point the poor boy isn't emotionally safe or comforted in his own home environment. His daughter is knowingly and happily making this child's home an unstable and volatile space, and she knows she's triggering his mental health and other diagnoses and is taking joy from it." - HyenaStraight8737
"NTA."
"Your husband needs to take his daughter and go, at once. She is torturing your son, physically, mentally, and emotionally. Don't cause more trauma by uprooting all of your children, even temporarily."
"He can get a hotel until he finds a place, but he needs to get her OUT of your house. Now. The fact that he is trying to blame you for what his daughter has done to your son is heinous. She is very clearly in need of therapy herself. But he can organize that for her, from a safe place where she isn't using your son as a metaphorical punching bag to relieve herself of her own pain."
"And, when your son is calm, sit down and talk to him. Maybe have a session with his therapist, as well. Explain that your stepdaughter was wrong, that you love him, and that you will always be there for him. I know you're going to be stretched thin as a single mother, but please try to find time once a month for one-on-one time with each of your children. Your son needs that reassurance, to feel that he is still loved." - Cursd818
"She needs to protect her son from her stepdaughter first and foremost and she's doing that perfectly. I don't know about divorce; maybe this can be sorted out but extreme steps might have to be taken. And it's clear as day that her son shouldn't be anywhere near the girl for a long time, at least until his therapy has had some effect and he learns to adapt and cope with his emotions and triggers better."
"In the meantime, I think OP's idea about moving away from her husband and his daughter is actually a good one. Some space is absolutely needed here and can do wonders for their family dynamics; however, if they are to keep this marriage intact, they'd have to figure out a way to either keep the kids apart most of the time (if not all of the time) or invest in intense therapy for both the kids together."
"Hope they're able to figure this out for themselves and of course, OP is NTA for choosing to protect her son." - Illustrious_Fix2933
The subReddit was appalled by how the OP's youngest son was being treated, and it was clear to them that he needed immediate separation and peace away from his stepsister.
Because of her own concerns about not being an only child and feeling the need for attention, the stepdaughter was effectively ruining her family unit, which would likely get her much more negative attention than what she'd been hoping for.















Woman Asks If It's Wrong To Hold Grudge After Mom Told Her When She 8 Years Old That She Wished She'd Aborted Her
While some people view having and raising children as the greatest blessing, some parents hold their children's existence against them for their entire lives.
And when they feel that way about their children, they're unfortunately typically pretty honest about it, cringed the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor heavelymango knew from the time she was young that her mother did not really like her and significantly favored her sister.
But when her mother told her at the age of eight that she wished she had aborted her, the Original Poster (OP) held on to that grudge for years after the fact.
She asked the sub:
The OP had a grudge against her mother.
"I (22 Female) have been holding onto a grudge due to something my mom told me when I was roughly eight or nine years old."
"Growing up, I was a rebellious kid and always felt as if my mom favored my older sister. My sister would always get whatever she wanted."
"I know she was born with Down syndrome and always needed more attention and care, but if my sister wanted my tablet, for example, she would have it for the whole day while mine was limited to 30 minutes so she could have it."
"As a kid, I lashed out more because of this. She could take all of my things, but I could never use hers."
During a heated moment, the OP's mother said something unforgivable.
"Eventually, this led to an argument with my mom. I don't recall the whole thing, but it was related to my sister and how I felt my mom didn't care about me or give me the same amount of attention."
"The fight got heated, and I probably told my mom that I hated my sister and her."
"I remember she said back, 'I never wanted you from the start. I knew I should've aborted you when I had the chance.'"
" I didn't know what aborted meant at the time, and I remember I looked it up, and it made me cry. I never forgot it, and it lingers in my mind whenever I am home."
The OP's mother pressured her to "let it go" and move on.
"Even growing up, I still brought it up, and she would get mad, saying I need to let it go and how I'm stubborn for not just forgetting what she said."
"There was even a time in high school when she took me to a therapist, and she complained about how I never dropped what she said."
"She says I need to move on from it because it has affected my relationship with her, and she wants to fix it."
"I know I'm older now and it was so long ago, but it still hurts, and I feel like it's made me not want to have her in my life in the future, and I have told this to her."
"How I don't want her in my life once I move out, get married, or have my own kids."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that this sounded like a core memory more than a grudge.
"The axe forgets. The tree remembers."
"It sounds less like you're holding a grudge and more that this is a formative, core memory for you."
"It won't stop being a core memory (unless maybe with the help of a lot of therapy). Has your mom ever apologized for saying that? Because you don't have to forget to forgive, but if she's not remorseful for saying that terrible thing to her young child (not just remorseful that you remember it), then she probably needs therapy (or is a narcissist/sociopath/similar)."
"You are certainly not obligated to 'get over it.'" - Hot-Can3615
"This is not a 'grudge'; it is pain that is still felt to such a degree. If she said it, then she was thinking it. She'll probably never apologize, but that doesn't mean your pain is or was invalid." - Fast_Register_9480
"NOR. This kind of thing needs a real apology. Like she needs to acknowledge the damage and genuinely care about it. Brushing it off won’t make it go away." - TentacleWolverine
"NOR. Did she really want to fix things? She basically just told you to get over it from the start instead of giving you a sincere apology."
"That isn't working on anything. She wants you to get over it so she can pretend that she never said it, so she doesn't have to feel bad about what she did. It doesn't sound like she cares much about how you feel."
"She just doesn't want to deal with it. For that reason, I would still have issues with what she said." - Chemical-Ad6809
"If your relationship with your mother is being affected by the actions of your mother, your mother is responsible for fixing it."
"You should know you probably aren't ever going to get closure, but you don't have to swallow it down. It helps to be the person you needed when you were younger out loud to yourself, but especially to others."
"For example: My name is Liz, and my mom told me to go ahead and do it already and save us all the heartache when I finally had the courage to tell her about how much I've been struggling with self-harm and suicidal ideation. I'm never going to forgive her for that, and we have never been close as a result of her actions."
"You aren't holding onto a grudge; you have a core memory of your mother distilling her feelings into a world-shattering sentence."
"You did not have a secure attachment before and can't have one now because of the deep trauma. You do not apologize for being stabbed."
"Find another therapist. I mean it. Someone who cares about your well-being wouldn't force you to apologize for being verbally abused as a child. I'm 29 now, and I lived through it. I still struggle with suicidal ideation daily, but once I stopped relying on my mom and unstable sources for support, my life got better immediately."
"You want things for comfort and familiarity. Don't let your mom or your therapist gaslight you into crossing a boundary."
"It might help to ask for a written five-part apology from your mom. 1. Acknowledge what you did 2. Say why it was wrong 3. Promise not to do it again 4. Ask how to make amends. 5. Share your feelings at this time if there's anything you'd like to say."
"My mom can be a good person and a bad mom and role model. Being in your own company is so much better than poor company." - PotLuckyPodcast
Others hoped the OP would go no contact with her mother sooner rather than later.
"NOR. It’s emotional abuse. And you do not owe her closeness after that, especially as she refuses to be accountable for that and try to make it up to you."
"She knows you have her number, and she can’t forgive you for knowing what a colloidal b***h she is."
"It’s unlikely that will change; it will at least be turned back on you with her the victim."
"Stop expecting her to apologize. If she doesn’t pay your bills, ghost her." - SnooCheesecakes2723
"My mom said something similar. My brother and I were adopted, and when I was a teen, in front of a church lady, she said, 'We didn't even really want you, but the people didn't want to split y'all up, so we just took you, too.'"
"Me and the church lady were shook. When I say my falbbers were ghasted. Like huh? She didn't remember saying that when I brought it up years after the fact."
"I also got grounded two times for two separate nine weeks (for C's on my report card) and a three and a half to four months (for smoking at 16 and getting caught because she liked to just pop up out of nowhere), and we just had a talk about that, and she didn't even remember."
"She said, 'No, I didn't. I never grounded you for that long,' and when I gave my rebuttal, she said, 'Well, if I did, it definitely wasn't for no nine weeks or months,' and this started because she was praising me for reading so much and liking books. I said, 'Well, when you were grounded like me, that's all I could do (no TV, no friends outside of school, no music, nothing but my room and books)."
"There's a reason I only call or answer her calls once or twice every few weeks. And I only call to get food, really..." - ManicalMoe
"‘Fine, I'm sorry’ is not an apology."
"Whilst I’m sure it was said in anger, most things said in anger have a grain of truth. There are also some things that no half-decent parent ever says to their children, no matter how angry they are, and this is one of them! It also sounds like she has made repeated similar comments of not wanting you as her child."
"I understand her eldest had a disability, but this is no excuse for neglecting and emotionally abusing her younger child. Lots of families deal with a child with additional needs whilst still managing to prioritise their other kids. Children with Down syndrome are capable of understanding ‘that’s your sister's, not yours; give it back’ !! It sounds like your mum has mental health issues?"
"Do you have a present father or other family you can turn to?"
"Protect your peace. Your mum has hurt you time and time again, honestly, for no real gain other than momentarily satisfying her anger. You owe this woman nothing." - Background_Term9810
"I went through something similar. When I was a little girl, my mother used to make comments that implied she didn't want me, though it was never that explicit. 'I only had you because your brother wanted a sister,' and 'My figure never recovered after you; after your brother, it did.'"
"Each comment stayed with me, but I never addressed it with her. I tried to move on and leave it in the past. She did a lot of horrible things throughout my life, but her behavior was always ignored because that's the precedent my dad set, where she can do essentially whatever she wants."
"A few months ago, she came to see me because I was desperate for help and sick. Instead of helping, she made my life so much worse. I won't go into details. At one point, I could no longer keep it inside, and I told her that she is a narcissist, to which she responded with, 'It would have been better if I had never had you.'"
"In some ways, it felt really good to hear her come out and say it. It felt good to hear the truth I've always known."
"I don't know what you should do, but I've chosen to not forgive."
"Every time I forgave, I just let her know that she can get away with whatever horrible things she had done. Her apologies were never real apologies. She always found ways to blame me or others for whatever she had done."
"And I'm truly just done with it. As sad as it is to not have a mom, it's sadder to pretend that you have one when in reality you don't... quite the opposite, if anything." - Neos_Mom
"So, OP, what will hurt more: keeping her and the grudge in your life or making a break and going low or no contact with her?"
"Frankly, we've no idea of what she might have been dealing with at the time, but regardless, what she said was said only to cause pain and suffering. 'Sorry' doesn't magic that intent away."
"Me, I think spending time alone or with friends or in therapy away from her might be what you need here. You might come to some sort of acceptance, but if this is something that's just going to keep coming between you, then stop trying to have that relationship." - Tal_Tos_72
After the OP received feedback, she shared a few clarifications from her original post.
"I wanted to clear some things up, take accountability where it's due, and provide some much-needed context from many people commenting the same questions."
"I want to be completely honest. We had many arguments, and I was a rebellious kid. I acted out and argued with my mom."
"I don't want to give off the impression that I was an entirely innocent kid who never did anything wrong and my mom just snapped out of nowhere. We both said hateful and hurtful things to each other during our fights."
"Growing up, the only way she would accept an apology was if I got on my knees and begged her for forgiveness. If I ever asked her to apologize to me, she would say, 'I have nothing to apologize for; you should be the one begging for my forgiveness.'"
The OP had a lot of physical memories, too.
"Things also would turn into physical arguments, not just verbal ones."
"There were times when she would get so angry she would get physical. Like yanking me by my hair, twisting my arms, or throwing things at me (like remotes, a bug spray can, or a radio)."
"When she yanked my hair, I would fight back just to get her to let me go, and she would scream that I was trying to kill her and she would get me arrested. When she twisted my arm, and I begged her to stop because it felt like it was going to break, she would say she hoped it did."
"When she threw objects at me, she would say she wished they would hit my face."
"I remember in middle school, during an argument, she said she wished she could break my face and that she hated it because I look like my dad. I won’t lie, whenever she said things like that, I would say nasty comments about how she chose to have him put us in her."
While the OP wasn't financially ready to move out yet, she hoped to as soon as possible.
"Why haven't I moved out yet? The main reason I haven't been able to move out is financial."
"I wasn't making enough to support myself without worrying about whether I’d end up having to crawl back home."
"Thankfully, I have recently found a better-paying job. My plan is to move out between mid-to-late October, or early November at the latest."
"The only reason I can't leave this exact second is because I have a few legal/administrative things to get cleared up so I’m completely untied from my mom, which will take a few weeks."
The OP also had proof that her mother liked her sister better.
"Has my mom ever admitted to favoring my sister? Yes."
"In arguments, she has explicitly told me that she doesn't see me as her legitimate daughter, and that she adored my sister more and forever will. She has also called me a 'monster,' told me there is a certain type of evil inside of me, and said she was afraid I would be just like my dad and try to harm them."
"She would even tell me that she was telling family and friends these things about me, but then later claim she 'just said it in the moment' and wouldn't be crazy enough to actually tell people that."
"Because I was so confused growing up and didn't know if she was lying or telling the truth, I started avoiding our family when they came over."
"Naturally, that just made things worse because she would get mad at me for avoiding them (even now as an adult), completely ignoring the fact that she was the one who lied about what she told them."
Unfortunately, the OP didn't have support from her father.
"What about my dad? My dad is not in my life."
"He was around sporadically, but never as a stable parent. My parents separated before I was born and divorced when I was two or three."
"Growing up, it was just constant back-and-forth toxicity, with him telling me how toxic my mother was, and her telling me the same about him."
"He would mostly only come over to see my sister, and often used me to care for her if he wanted to take her out to eat. Ultimately, my dad didn't care about anyone else other than my sister (and his drugs)."
"I hope this can clear some questions on the original post. I know I didn't provide many details as I originally should have. I honestly didn't want to post something too long, and I honestly did not expect it to be noticed."
"Thank you all for taking time to talk to me and share your thoughts."
The subReddit fully sided with the OP, pointing out that no matter how heated the moment was, it would never excuse the terrible things the OP's mother had said to her.
If the OP's mother really wanted a relationship with her, she'd drop the defensiveness and demands, offer a genuine apology, and work hard to be better for both of her children.
That takes a very rare kind of person to pull off, and it didn't sound like the OP's mother had that in her.
If you or someone you know is struggling, you can contact the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 988.
To find help outside the United States, the International Association for Suicide Prevention has resources available at https://findahelpline.com/i/iasp