When two people are about to get married, at least in most cases, not only are they deeply in love, but they typically have very high opinions of one another.
Any threat to breaking that illusion, especially on the wedding day, tends to be avoided, even by going to preposterous, delusional lengths, cringed the members of the "Am I the A**hole?" (AITAH) subReddit.
Redditor InvestigatorOk7152 was excited to be a groomsman in his best friend's wedding and was taken aback on the bachelor party night when his best friend kissed him while under the influence.
But when the bride found out and felt insecure enough about it that she did not want him to be a groomsman anymore and also didn't want him to attend the wedding, the Original Poster (OP) was hurt.
He asked the sub:
"AITAH for not telling my best friend the real reason I'm not at his wedding?"
The OP had an awkward experience at his best friend's bachelor party.
"I (29 Male) was supposed to be a groomsman for my best friend (30 Male) as we've been tight since we were kids."
"This weekend, he's marrying his fiancée (28 Female), who I've known since they were dating long-distance in high school."
"At his bachelor party last weekend, we started off at my place and transitioned to bar hopping, and by the end, my best friend was drunk and the guys (all our mutual friends and some of his cousins) were egging him on to do a last kiss before marriage dare."
"For extra info, I'm not a fan of that 'custom' at bachelors or bachelorettes because it honestly makes it look like you're being held hostage to marry the love of your life; plus it's just disrespectful to your partner (but that's just an opinion I have, and to each their own, but I knew my best friend shared it, too)."
"Still, I figured if he had not been drunk, my best friend wouldn't do it, because I know he loves his fiancée very much."
"To my literal shock and horror, he turned around, grabbed me, and kissed me."
"It was not even a dumb peck, either. He actually dipped me and held it for a few seconds until everyone was laughing obnoxiously."
"I didn't kiss back, I just froze and laughed it off when it finished. Later, I realized I wasn't having much fun anymore and bailed early, taking some of our drunker friends home with me."
The OP was mortified when the bride found out about the kiss.
"The next day, his fiancée first texted me on Instagram and then on WhatsApp, asking to talk, and then called me."
"She wasn't yelling or anything, but was just kind of awkward. She said she knew about the kiss, and that while she didn't love it, she was glad it was me and not some random girl."
"She said if he'd kissed another woman, she'd have taken it as cheating and dealt with it worse."
"I agreed and backed her point, saying I wouldn't have encouraged or allowed that, and was still caught off-guard by what happened."
But he was even more mortified by what the bride did next.
"Then she admitted she didn't feel comfortable with me being at the wedding now, either, because it would just be in the back of her head the whole time."
"I was admittedly stunned at first, and then mad, and then upset, but came to the conclusion that it was her wedding at the end of the day, and told her I got it and wouldn't go."
"She thanked me for understanding, but also asked me not to tell my best friend that she was the one who asked me not to go."
"I have already sent the text backing out, giving reasons regarding work, and my best friend was very upset and asked me if I could back out in any way."
"I freelance, by the way, and he knows this, so my lie wasn't a good one, and he went from upset to straight up mad at me for bailing out on his wedding day for work."
The OP struggled with not telling his best friend the truth.
"All our mutuals have texted me in our shared wedding group chat and have asked me to reconsider and told me there's no way I'm skipping his wedding for work I myself manage, some being harsher and some passive aggressive, all very valid."
"Now I'm stuck looking like the a**hole when I was literally asked not to go, and also asked not to say that I was asked not to go."
"Everyone around me thinks I'm this a**hole for prioritizing work over my best friend's wedding, and I honestly don't know how to navigate this without losing people."
"AITAH?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
- NTA: Not the A**hole
- YTA: You're the A**hole
- ESH: Everybody Sucks Here
- NAH: No A**holes Here
Some pointed out that the bride should own her decisions, not just with the OP.
"NTA, but bro, don't do this to yourself and come off as the bad guy."
"He shouldn't have kissed you, that was disrespectful to his fiancée, but his fiancée shouldn't be asking you not to tell people either. She needs to own her decisions."
"You are literally shooting yourself in the foot. Just come clean." - Bubblegumpsplant
"If she had the balls to ask him not to go, she should have the balls to tell her fiancé. It is ridiculous that the OP is being made out to be the bad guy in this when he had nothing to do with anything. It all happened to him; he didn't want any of it." - erabera
"The kiss was just as disrespectful to OP. If a man grabs a woman at a bar, dips her, and tries to open-mouth kiss her against her will, that would be assault."
"Regardless, I would've told her that I won't come if that's what she wants, but I am DEFINITELY going to tell him why I'm backing out BEFORE the wedding. She can deal with the consequences. I did nothing wrong, and I will not take the blame for her insecurities." - imnickelhead
"We need to remember it's assault even if it happened to a man. This was completely messed up, especially with the OP taking the fall for it, and the OP is NTA." - katied1183
"This whole thing is crazy, because the groom probably kissed OP because that was the safest option in a pressured situation. No big deal."
"Of course, he should've asked first (it's actually more disrespectful to OP than to his fiancée), but in the crazy 'one last kiss before marriage' thing that they're apparently doing, kissing his best friend is probably how to get out of cheating." - Bananabreadtyrant
"Personally, I think the bride and groom are as bad as each other. The groom assaulted OP. Simple as that."
"The bride, on the other hand, is victim-blaming the OP and has insisted on a course of action that will make OP a pariah amongst his whole friend group. She's ruining his life! And all because she doesn't want to get any flak for this."
"She doesn't give a s**t that OP is actually the wronged party in the kiss scenario, or the effect this is having, so long as she gets to have her special day and come out of it all smelling of roses."
"I personally feel OP needs to ensure the story is told to both of them, and then drop both of these horrible people as soon as possible." - Maria_Dragons
Others pointed out that there were ways for the OP to tell the truth without telling the groom himself.
"Tell another groomsman why you're not coming. It will get back to the groom without you breaking your promise to the bride, who should not have asked you to keep that secret when you're taking the brunt of it. That's s**tty of her."
"I also hate that peer pressure 'just one last time' thing, for the record. Ugh." - SueShe19
"Pick the most gossipy groomsman in the group. The groom will know in no time flat. Make sure to emphasise how badly this unreasonable request is affecting you, and that you're the only one suffering consequences when it wasn't even your actions that caused the situation."
"Use emotive language. People will flock to your side, and the bride will be getting some serious side eye." - PepperPhoenix
"I suggest telling all the other groomsmen why OP is not going. All of them. It'll definitely get back to the groom without the OP breaking his promise, problem solved." - Araxanna
"You need to tell her to tell him, or she can at least delegate the responsibility to someone else in the wedding party if she doesn't feel up to having this conversation yet, but it NEEDS to be had before they exchange their vows."
"Her lying and uninviting his friends behind his back is wrong. Building a relationship like this is wrong."
"Plus, she screwed you over. You lost money with all the things you did as a groomsman, and your friendship WILL be fractured no matter how much you and he try to pretend it isn't. Not only that, but your mutual friends who may have wanted you as a groomsman/godfather/etc now see that you will bail." - AliveAbbreviations67
"I have no idea why OP would feel obligated to keep that 'promise'. She is letting OP take all the blame for not being at the wedding. The groom deserves to know what kind of person he is marrying." - Mpegirl2006
"I would have told the fiancée NO when she told OP not to tell his friend that she told him to back out. I would tell her that I will back out if that makes you feel better, but I am not going to lie to him about why. OP did nothing wrong. He did not instigate the kiss."
"It was probably meant to be funny to shut the 'one last time' people up without him having to say, 'no, I don't want to do that,' and hear the, 'aww come on, everyone does it' (not true) crowd."
"So, drunk as he was, the groom probably thought, 'okay, I'll kiss my best bro for laughs, and that will shut them up.' It worked. And telling his fiancée, he probably didn't think she would act like she did."
"NTA, but you should not have promised her you wouldn't tell. You did nothing wrong. I would call her and say, 'Sorry, but I am coming to the wedding, or I'm telling him why I am not; I cannot continue to take the blame for something I didn't even do.'" - Frequent_Couple5498
After receiving feedback, the OP shared an update in a second post.
"Hi guys, the wedding and pre-party happened last weekend, and I've had a few days to process, so here's the update as promised."
"First off, I found out through a bridesmaid messaging me on Instagram why my best friend's fiancée reacted the way she did. As it turns out, it wasn't just about the bachelor party kiss; it was about him in general."
"For context, ever since I've known Andrew (my best friend), he's had a history of being impulsive when drunk. I know this is fairly common, and I had the same issue in high school, but I learned to just drink less and eventually leveled out, but Andrew didn't, and his now-wife has always had a problem with it."
"Over the years, he's done a bunch of crazy s**t, most of which I'd forgotten or never even knew about. The bridesmaid listed examples his fiancée had mentioned, like when he streaked through campus at midnight on a dare no one pushed him into, or when he kissed mutual friends (including me once) during drinking games in high school, and many other things. Nothing that counted as cheating, but enough of a pattern that he's got a reputation for taking jokes and dares too literally."
"His fiancée, of course, knew about a lot of this, and it had been a sore point in their relationship early on. So when the kiss with me happened at the bachelor party, she didn't see it as a one-off joke, but rather she saw it as proof his old habits weren't gone, and she panicked."
"In her mind, if he could do that in front of everyone, then what else might happen? And because it was me this time, that ever constant part of his life, I became part of the problem."
The bride also did not hear about the kiss in the most graceful way, either.
"Apparently, Andrew made things bad from the get-go when he got back from the party, as he walked into their hotel room with her and her mom there and blurted out the story very obnoxiously."
"That p**sed her off and made her mum (who's pretty conservative) really uncomfortable. According to the bridesmaid, her mum had clashed with Andrew before, and this was the last thing she wanted to see before her daughter's wedding."
"That same night, the fiancée and her mum talked, and her mum was the one who pushed the idea that I should quietly back out. She basically told her it would be a bad look to have me standing up there as part of the wedding party, which did explain why I got that message the next morning."
The OP did go to the wedding but still felt something in his friendship shifting.
"In the end, I did go to the pre-party and the wedding. Both went fast but well and very beautifully."
"The part that really did unexpectedly hurt me was after, regarding the honeymoon. Many, many months before, I had suggested this one destination I had gone to on vacation when I was way younger, and back then, they'd both been excited and even asked me for hotel and restaurant recommendations in preparation."
"After the wedding, I asked Andrew when they were leaving, and he kind of hesitated before saying they'd changed plans to somewhere completely different."
"I was very surprised, to be honest, but we just laughed about it and closed it up with me saying, 'Oh well!' and wishing them a great time. With more thought given, I realise that it's another way of cutting out my influence and icing me out, and it was the point that the reality of it was coming down on me."
"Now that it's been a few days and I've driven back home, I have just conceded. While I'm glad I went, I'm not very hopeful for our friendship being the same."
"I love Andrew dearly, and I really do love his wife, too, and I understand why things turned out this way, but I just wish I hadn't f**king been the one involved (targeted more like). Drama is very f**king fun to watch when it isn't you, but not when you're at the center of it."
"I do want to be clear, though, that the blame is on Andrew. While I don't think I deserved to be put in this position, I also believe they (his wife and her mom) tried their best to treat me fairly, even when it was hard for them."
"I do also forgive them, and I hope to move forward, even if the friendship I had with him for 20 years won't probably ever look the same again."
"Thank you truly for all the comments, advice, and support."
The subReddit was upset on the OP's behalf that not only had a kiss been pushed on him against his will, but he'd also been blamed and punished for it happening, in the form of almost not attending the wedding and being criticized by the entire wedding party.
Fortunately, things worked out well enough that the OP could still attend and enjoy, but it seemed that his friend would be forever impacted by this kiss, no matter how unfair it was to him, as a final stamp of confirmation that this marriage was built on shaky ground at best.















Humiliated Redditor Ditches Friend's Birthday After She Publicly Mocks Them In Front Of Everyone
Fake people tend to show their true colors during pivotal moments, like weddings and major celebrations.
But when they want an audience to hurt someone else, it takes total sense that they would be called out in front of everyone, as agreed by members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subreddit.
Redditor HollyyGinger went to their close friend's birthday party, expecting to have a good time and celebrate their loved one's special day.
But when their close friend made several mocking comments about them, and the party laughed along with them, the Original Poster (OP) took that as an indication of the state of their friendship and left the birthday party early.
They asked the sub:
The OP was excited to celebrate their close friend's birthday.
"One of my close friends had a birthday dinner last weekend, and I was genuinely excited to go."
"I helped her organize a few things beforehand, bought her a gift, and even rearranged some plans because I wanted to be there for her."
But the birthday dinner did not go at all how the OP expected.
"During dinner, though, she started making little jokes about me in front of everyone."
"At first, I laughed along because I didn't want to make things awkward on her birthday."
"But she kept going. She joked about dating life, brought up an embarrassing story I had told her privately, and made another comment about how I'm ''way too sensitive' sometimes."
"People were laughing, and I tried to act like it didn't bother me, but honestly, I felt pretty humiliated."
The OP tried to ask their friend to change the direction of the rest of the party.
"I quietly asked her when we were alone if she could stop making me the joke of the evening."
"She rolled her eyes and said I was taking everything too seriously and that everyone knew she was joking."
"I went back to the table for a while because I really didn't want to ruin her birthday."
"But then she made another joke about me, so I decided I'd had enough. I congratulated her again, said goodbye to everyone, and went home without making a scene."
The OP's friend tried to blame them for how the evening turned out.
"The next morning, she texted me, saying she was hurt that I left early and that several people noticed."
"She said that I made her feel like she had done something horrible when she was 'just having fun.' But her having fun was more of a public embarrassment to me."
"Now I feel guilty, because it was her birthday, and maybe I could have just ignored it for another hour or two."
"I wasn't trying to punish her or make the night about me. I just didn't want to sit there smiling while someone I trusted kept embarrassing me after I had specifically asked her to stop."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that she didn't have to stay at a party where she didn't feel welcome.
"She was having fun. You were not having fun."
"You’re not overreacting. You told her it was hurting you, and she kept doing it because hurting you was entertaining for her. She is not a good friend." - Dunquinn-
"I remember when I was really little, a bunch of adults were laughing at me as I cried."
"I cried to my mom, 'Stop laughing at me,' to which she replied, 'We aren’t laughing at you; we're laughing with you,' while giggling."
"My response was something I stand by to this day: 'Then why am I the only one crying?!'"
"It’s only funny if the person who’s being teased is laughing too. You weren’t laughing. It wasn’t funny; it was cruel. NOR." - XSmartypants
"She’s a bully. It wasn’t 'more like 'it was publicly embarrassing. It WAS publicly embarrassing."
"Then she tells you that SHE is embarrassed because YOU left early. That's bulls**t."
"NOR. Drop her." - WTH_JFG
"NOR. They make jokes about someone's privacy to humiliate that person. Anyone who would use info that was shared in confidence to get a laugh is an abuser. You don't do that, especially to a close friend, without the intent to hurt that person." - BungenessKrabb
"Would it have been fun if you did the same? Start telling her darkest secrets?"
"She made you into a punchline for other people’s entertainment."
"You told her to stop, and she didn’t; now she’s the victim?"
"NOR."
"But also, some people need to feel it to believe it. I hope you go to the next gathering with a few stories of your own and don’t let her rewrite the narrative." - beached_not_broken
"I’ve had it happen by my 'best friend' at the time, only it was in a professional setting event. Very personal details only she knew, all spilled for her amusement, embarrassing me in front of colleagues."
"NOR, OP. As you did, I left the gathering earlier than expected. My 'friend' called the next day asking why I left so early. I told her what she had said and done and how humiliated I felt."
"Her 'apology' was that flippant version that shows no remorse, like, 'Well, I’m sorry you feel that way.'"
"Over the subsequent years, she managed to alienate and burn bridges with most of those same people we were gathered with."
"I’m sorry this happened to you, OP. Anyone who thinks you were 'too sensitive' has no empathy and 'friends' like that don’t deserve your time." - Hungry_Tank9182
"NOR. She was being a jerk to you, and she was expecting you to just take it and not say anything or defend yourself."
"Because they think it's sooo funny to mock others, but I bet if the roles were reversed, she would be offended and upset."
"Honestly, you deserve better friends. I'm sorry you had to deal with this."
"I would've left and blocked her." - Cryslove
Others urged the OP to stop thinking about the event and let that friendship go.
"That was the point of her fun! Humiliating you with an audience!"
"Sharing something deeply personal, told in confidence? Immediate dealbreaker."
"She is not (and likely never was) your friend. Friends do not treat friends with such disrespect. Block her, and go no contact. She brings nothing good to your life, and she’s not worthy of your energy and time."
"NOR." - MizPeachyKeen
"It’s called bullying. She is not your friend. Friends don’t humiliate their true friends, or tell them 'they are too sensitive.'"
"That is what bullies do. She keeps you around to put you down and make herself look or feel better."
"Her actions, attitude, and behavior are those of an immature high schooler. She could actually be jealous of you and not want one or all of the following: you to succeed, have more friends, feel better about yourself, look better, etc."
"Please slowly distance yourself, find new hobbies and activities with more mature, well-rounded, healthy people." - Freeling_Fab_U_lous
"How DARE you spoil her fun; didn't you know that part of your gift was letting her make you the butt of her jokes? (sarcastic comment)"
"What an awful person. No one should need to put others down to raise themselves up. She doesn't deserve the title of friend, to be honest. You showed much more grace than I would have managed." - tphatmcgee
"She was using you as her punching bag to make the others attending laugh. Probably thinking you’d just take it. That’s not a good friend. NOR." - Additional-Start9455
"'Someone I trusted kept embarrassing me after I asked them to stop.' NOR."
"First, you shouldn't have had to ask her to stop because a friend wouldn't have started in the first place. One of her 'jokes' was about you being sensitive, so she knew you didn't like it and did it anyway."
"Second, you asked her privately to stop, because you didn't want to embarrass her. Think about that. You didn't want to embarrass her. But she couldn't show you the same consideration, even after being asked to stop."
"That's not how I treat my friends, and I suspect that's not how you treat your friends, either." - calminthedark
"I would have answered her text that she's a s**tty friend and to f**k off. You have class."
"I probably would have made a comment at dinner that I asked her to stop with the insults."
"NOR. You did everything right." - Particular-King218
The subReddit was disappointed on the OP's behalf that a friendship they were so committed to, they were excited to celebrate their friend's birthday and even helped plan the event, came apart at their expense, and on very public terms.
If the friend didn't want to be "embarrassed," maybe she should have thought about how she was embarrassing others first.