Anybody who grew up with siblings knows how often their parents would rely on them to provide free childcare.
And we also know how frustrating that can be. As kids, we vow to get out of our houses and maintain our own space, no matter our parents' intentions for us.
Reddit user BigBroSituation did just that, and unfortunately experienced some serious guilting from his parents for it.
After being at the mercy of a bad situation, he went to the popular subReddit "Am I The A**hole?" or "AITA" to ascertain whether he'd reacted badly:
"AITA for moving to avoid babysitting for my parents which prompted my siblings to do the same?"
Our original poster, or OP, told us about why he got out when he could.
"I'm (22M[ale]) the oldest brother of 9 siblings. I have 5 younger brothers and 3 sisters. My sister is 20 and my brother is 19. Youngest is 4 yrs old and my other siblings ages range from 16yrs-7yrs."
"My parents would've had way more kids but my mom suffered from several miscarriages."
"Pretty much since I was 6 I had to take care of all my siblings. I could never go out because my parents were working and nobody to take care of my siblings. I love my siblings but I hated never having freedom."
Now, as an adult, OP has a better perspective on why he felt so resentful in the moment.
"It used to annoy me like crazy that they would just pop one kid after another."
"Our house wasn't that big so everyone shared rooms, never had any private space, parents made good money but because of so many kids they struggled financially."
And then upon finding out why he was saddled with the responsibility, he got even more annoyed.
"Years later I found out the reason why they had so many kids because they weren't using any protection AT ALL."
"My mom said they didn't believe in using protection and any kids they had were because of 'god's will.'"
"If they didn't get pregnant, that was fine, if they did it was because that was God's plan."
"I was so mad since I was the one also stuck taking care of all these kids because they're too stubborn to use protection since it's against their beliefs."
So as soon as he could, OP got out.
"When my mom got pregnant again with my youngest sibling, I waited til my 18th and moved out that day. Made sure I moved far too (1 hr away) so I had that excuse."
And his siblings followed suit.
"When my sis turned 18 she begged me to let her live with me and I said ya. My bro did too eventually."
"My sister has already moved out but he's still there with me while we continue our college classes."
"They saw that I limited contact with my parents to avoid getting stuck babysitting so they wanted out too. Now my younger bro who's 16 is spending more time at my place because he hates it at home."
His parents have thrown him the blame for this situation.
"My parents are mad at me for dipping out on them since that's made my other siblings not wanna be responsible for the younger ones either."
"My dad told me they're hurt I turned my back on my family and have made my siblings do the same."
OP doesn't know if he handled the situation poorly.
"Cause I'm the older one so I have the most influence on them and ever since I left they followed with the same attitude."
"A part of me does feel bad that they're having a hard time but at the same time I feel they brought that on themselves just thinking they can have however many kids and expecting us all to just live with their actions."
"Just wondering if I'm TA for how this all happened."
Redditors helped OP see where guilt belongs by declaring:
- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA - You're The A**hole
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
- NAH - No A**holes Here
Reddit took OP's side without a second thought.
"NTA it sounds like your parents used you to parent your siblings. There is an actual term for this: Parentification."
"There is obviously a spectrum to parentification of how much responsibility the child is expected to have but it sounds like you know that what your parents expected from you was an unfair amount."
"You didn't choose to have those kids, they are not your kids, but you were forced to look after them. Well done for being able to get out and start looking after your own needs."
"In a way, it sounds like you are still parenting your siblings by letting the older ones live with you. But as long as you are happy to to do so and that you don't feel you have to."~JosBenson
"NTA! There is a reason why the term parentification is a thing. It is a scale and some cases are much worse than others, but it is a recognised issue because it can have a negative effect on your development."
"Older siblings can look after younger ones on occasion but it should never really impact the freedom of the older siblings."
"The red flags:"
"You parents seem to expect that their adult children babysit. The expectation is a huge red flag."
"You and your siblings feel you need to 'get out,' indicating you can't just say 'no' when asked. You should always be able to say 'no.'"
"You all feel the same way, it is not just a problem for one person, it is a family issue."
"This indicates there is a bigger problem all of you make a plan to get away from because your parents don't seem to be offering any other solution. Normal people talk it over, listen to each other and maybe create a schedule."
"The seem to make you feel as if you owe them something. This can be a bit of a narcissist characteristic in some people."
"The really bad cases manipulate you to do their bidding and make you feel very guilty that you don't really want to."
"Don't assume everything is normal just because it is what has been normal your entire life. Even light parentification can cause psychological issues down the track."~Ds685
"NTA."
"You didn't choose to have all those kids, your parents did. The younger children are their responsibility and not yours. End of story."~markroth69
"NTA. They've been enormously irresponsible by leaving the odds of getting pregnant up to divine will (or rather their own biology), and relying on the older kids to look after the younger ones."
"But good on you for helping the ones who also want to get out of being a live-in babysitter. They have at least ten children and probably will have more given their attitude towards protection."
"Does the Bible say anything about deadbeat parents?"~NotSoSilentWatcher
In fact, Redditors say that the parents' expectations are extremely unfair.
"NTA. Kids should help around the house a bit, not be turned into parents for their siblings. As an 18-year-old moving out, you only have responsibility for yourself."
"It wasn't your choice to have these kids, they aren't your responsibility to deal with."
"I think it's cool that you're looking out for your brother and sister, helping them to keep from being turned into parents. Moving out at 18 isn't 'abandoning your family' or whatever. This is ridiculous."~Rose_colored_lense
"I am the eldest of 10 kids (I was 21 when my youngest sibling was born) and did a lot of babysitting growing up."
"However my mother was a Stay-At-Home-Mom from the time I was 3 until I was 15, my parents ensured that they could financially handle each child, but don't have a lot of money left over."
"I had a therapist who stated that I never went through teenage rebellion and I laughed about it."
"Because I didn't have to rebel: my parents encouraged me to get my motorcycle license--my mother actually went at the same time."
"I grew up in a small town where not much happened and I was able to travel to the larger towns to spend time with friends and didn't feel like I missed out on anything."
"OP, you are NTA my parents may have had a lot of kids however they often stated that 'our children are our responsibility, not our older children's responsibility.'"
"My mother actually drank a bit too much a few weeks ago and cried that she wishes she had helped us (adult children) all more."
"I pointed out that she had helped us all and we didn't expect more. She and Dad allowed me to live with them for 3 years with my twins after their father took off on us just after they were born (she cried about "not doing more" for me)."
"They supported 2 of my sisters in moving out with their partners. 2 of my brothers still live with them while working (getting housing here is hard and expensive)."
"Another brother is in the midst of trying to move to another town as he has a new job and my parents are caring for his 3 year old daughter so that he can work and come spend time with his daughter on weekends."
"They still have 4 minor children all in school, both of them still work, and still manage to care for their kids."~Aesient
"NTA. I would consider throwing around the line about gods will when they complain. You didn't get to have a say in how many kids they chose to have and they don't get a say in how much contact you want to have."
"Of course they were passive about caring how many children they had because they weren't the ones facing the consequences of their actions. You were!"
"Now they are mad because they will have to parent or figure out how to hire a babysitter. This is a problem of their own doing and theirs to figure out a solution."
"Good on you for helping your siblings get out of the environment and to start standing on their own. Not all siblings would do that, and I think it is commendable."~chatondedanger
"NTA. They gave birth to the children, so they should raise them. That was "g-ds plan" for them. SMH."~Snoo-91342
In fact, there is a psychological term for what OP's parents were doing: "parentification."
"NTA - your parents are the major assholes here, though."
"What they did to you is called 'parentification' which is a form of abuse. Basically, it's where they turn their eldest siblings into pseudo-parents and have them in turn take care of their younger siblings."
"As you mentioned, it adds a lot of responsibility to your plate and effectively steals a chunk of your freedom and childhood away from you."
"I don't blame you for getting out of there and off the hook as soon as you could. It's not your decision they kept procreating without any sort of protection, so they shouldn't make the result of their unprotected affairs your responsibility."
"If they can't watch their youngest kids, then they shouldn't be having kids anymore. Or they need to find and pay for childcare on their own. They should not be putting that burden on their kids."
"Good on you and your siblings for getting out of a bad situation. Don't let them guilt you into coming back, your parents are the ones trying to skirt their responsibilities and place those on their own kids."
"Older siblings aren't free childcare. That's not 'God's will.'"~dookle14
"NTA. I am a parent, I never wanted a ton of children, but I married a man who is the youngest of 6 and it turned me off from that even more. His parents were generally neglectful, so his older siblings weren't made to watch him, but... no one was."
"He basically raised himself. It's also really clear even in adulthood that his parents don't have the capacity to properly care about all their children. It's not fair to him and I can't imagine how it must feel to you."
"I have two children and maybe I'm just faint of heart, but I can't imagine having the time, energy and emotional capacity to properly parent more than 3-4 kids total."
"People can make the choices they want in life, but they must assess their ability to deal with the responsibility that comes along."
"I'm not going to trash everyone that chooses to have several children, maybe there are people who can handle it a lot better than I feel I could."
"You deserved to have a childhood, though and to feel loved and respected for who you are and not just what you do for your family."
"It's important to be willing to do sucky things for the people you love. That's kind of what family is sometimes."
"But you were just a kid and you should have a choice in the matter. I think it's good that you create some boundaries as an adult and learn how to have a relationship with your parents without doing things that cause bitterness and resentment."~allsfairinwar
"NTA. Christian here. You know what this reminds me of... There once was a man trapped on the roof of a house in a flood. He prayed to God for help and along came a rescue boat."
"The man refused rescue saying 'I'm waiting for God to help me.' The boat left and the water level continues to rise. Along came a helicopter but again the man refused rescue saying 'I'm waiting for God to help me.'"
"The helicopter left. The man drowned. When he got to heaven he asked 'why didn't you save me even though I asked you to again and again?!' God replied, 'I tried twice, I sent a boat and a helicopter but you refused rescue.'"
"This is basically what your parents have done. God has given them the means to control the number of children they have but when they end up with a crazy amount and no-one to help they are annoyed that it's not going to plan."~Lavishness-Economy
"NTA - You should tell them that you loved the opportunity to take care of your 75 siblings 24/7, but when you turned 18 it was god's will that made you move out."~olneyvideo
According to Reddit, OP was fully within his rights to make his own choices and not serve as a surrogate parent to his 8 siblings.
And his parents will either realize that or they won't. That, ultimately, is up to them.















Woman Asks If It's Wrong To Hold Grudge After Mom Told Her When She 8 Years Old That She Wished She'd Aborted Her
While some people view having and raising children as the greatest blessing, some parents hold their children's existence against them for their entire lives.
And when they feel that way about their children, they're unfortunately typically pretty honest about it, cringed the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor heavelymango knew from the time she was young that her mother did not really like her and significantly favored her sister.
But when her mother told her at the age of eight that she wished she had aborted her, the Original Poster (OP) held on to that grudge for years after the fact.
She asked the sub:
The OP had a grudge against her mother.
"I (22 Female) have been holding onto a grudge due to something my mom told me when I was roughly eight or nine years old."
"Growing up, I was a rebellious kid and always felt as if my mom favored my older sister. My sister would always get whatever she wanted."
"I know she was born with Down syndrome and always needed more attention and care, but if my sister wanted my tablet, for example, she would have it for the whole day while mine was limited to 30 minutes so she could have it."
"As a kid, I lashed out more because of this. She could take all of my things, but I could never use hers."
During a heated moment, the OP's mother said something unforgivable.
"Eventually, this led to an argument with my mom. I don't recall the whole thing, but it was related to my sister and how I felt my mom didn't care about me or give me the same amount of attention."
"The fight got heated, and I probably told my mom that I hated my sister and her."
"I remember she said back, 'I never wanted you from the start. I knew I should've aborted you when I had the chance.'"
" I didn't know what aborted meant at the time, and I remember I looked it up, and it made me cry. I never forgot it, and it lingers in my mind whenever I am home."
The OP's mother pressured her to "let it go" and move on.
"Even growing up, I still brought it up, and she would get mad, saying I need to let it go and how I'm stubborn for not just forgetting what she said."
"There was even a time in high school when she took me to a therapist, and she complained about how I never dropped what she said."
"She says I need to move on from it because it has affected my relationship with her, and she wants to fix it."
"I know I'm older now and it was so long ago, but it still hurts, and I feel like it's made me not want to have her in my life in the future, and I have told this to her."
"How I don't want her in my life once I move out, get married, or have my own kids."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that this sounded like a core memory more than a grudge.
"The axe forgets. The tree remembers."
"It sounds less like you're holding a grudge and more that this is a formative, core memory for you."
"It won't stop being a core memory (unless maybe with the help of a lot of therapy). Has your mom ever apologized for saying that? Because you don't have to forget to forgive, but if she's not remorseful for saying that terrible thing to her young child (not just remorseful that you remember it), then she probably needs therapy (or is a narcissist/sociopath/similar)."
"You are certainly not obligated to 'get over it.'" - Hot-Can3615
"This is not a 'grudge'; it is pain that is still felt to such a degree. If she said it, then she was thinking it. She'll probably never apologize, but that doesn't mean your pain is or was invalid." - Fast_Register_9480
"NOR. This kind of thing needs a real apology. Like she needs to acknowledge the damage and genuinely care about it. Brushing it off won’t make it go away." - TentacleWolverine
"NOR. Did she really want to fix things? She basically just told you to get over it from the start instead of giving you a sincere apology."
"That isn't working on anything. She wants you to get over it so she can pretend that she never said it, so she doesn't have to feel bad about what she did. It doesn't sound like she cares much about how you feel."
"She just doesn't want to deal with it. For that reason, I would still have issues with what she said." - Chemical-Ad6809
"If your relationship with your mother is being affected by the actions of your mother, your mother is responsible for fixing it."
"You should know you probably aren't ever going to get closure, but you don't have to swallow it down. It helps to be the person you needed when you were younger out loud to yourself, but especially to others."
"For example: My name is Liz, and my mom told me to go ahead and do it already and save us all the heartache when I finally had the courage to tell her about how much I've been struggling with self-harm and suicidal ideation. I'm never going to forgive her for that, and we have never been close as a result of her actions."
"You aren't holding onto a grudge; you have a core memory of your mother distilling her feelings into a world-shattering sentence."
"You did not have a secure attachment before and can't have one now because of the deep trauma. You do not apologize for being stabbed."
"Find another therapist. I mean it. Someone who cares about your well-being wouldn't force you to apologize for being verbally abused as a child. I'm 29 now, and I lived through it. I still struggle with suicidal ideation daily, but once I stopped relying on my mom and unstable sources for support, my life got better immediately."
"You want things for comfort and familiarity. Don't let your mom or your therapist gaslight you into crossing a boundary."
"It might help to ask for a written five-part apology from your mom. 1. Acknowledge what you did 2. Say why it was wrong 3. Promise not to do it again 4. Ask how to make amends. 5. Share your feelings at this time if there's anything you'd like to say."
"My mom can be a good person and a bad mom and role model. Being in your own company is so much better than poor company." - PotLuckyPodcast
Others hoped the OP would go no contact with her mother sooner rather than later.
"NOR. It’s emotional abuse. And you do not owe her closeness after that, especially as she refuses to be accountable for that and try to make it up to you."
"She knows you have her number, and she can’t forgive you for knowing what a colloidal b***h she is."
"It’s unlikely that will change; it will at least be turned back on you with her the victim."
"Stop expecting her to apologize. If she doesn’t pay your bills, ghost her." - SnooCheesecakes2723
"My mom said something similar. My brother and I were adopted, and when I was a teen, in front of a church lady, she said, 'We didn't even really want you, but the people didn't want to split y'all up, so we just took you, too.'"
"Me and the church lady were shook. When I say my falbbers were ghasted. Like huh? She didn't remember saying that when I brought it up years after the fact."
"I also got grounded two times for two separate nine weeks (for C's on my report card) and a three and a half to four months (for smoking at 16 and getting caught because she liked to just pop up out of nowhere), and we just had a talk about that, and she didn't even remember."
"She said, 'No, I didn't. I never grounded you for that long,' and when I gave my rebuttal, she said, 'Well, if I did, it definitely wasn't for no nine weeks or months,' and this started because she was praising me for reading so much and liking books. I said, 'Well, when you were grounded like me, that's all I could do (no TV, no friends outside of school, no music, nothing but my room and books)."
"There's a reason I only call or answer her calls once or twice every few weeks. And I only call to get food, really..." - ManicalMoe
"‘Fine, I'm sorry’ is not an apology."
"Whilst I’m sure it was said in anger, most things said in anger have a grain of truth. There are also some things that no half-decent parent ever says to their children, no matter how angry they are, and this is one of them! It also sounds like she has made repeated similar comments of not wanting you as her child."
"I understand her eldest had a disability, but this is no excuse for neglecting and emotionally abusing her younger child. Lots of families deal with a child with additional needs whilst still managing to prioritise their other kids. Children with Down syndrome are capable of understanding ‘that’s your sister's, not yours; give it back’ !! It sounds like your mum has mental health issues?"
"Do you have a present father or other family you can turn to?"
"Protect your peace. Your mum has hurt you time and time again, honestly, for no real gain other than momentarily satisfying her anger. You owe this woman nothing." - Background_Term9810
"I went through something similar. When I was a little girl, my mother used to make comments that implied she didn't want me, though it was never that explicit. 'I only had you because your brother wanted a sister,' and 'My figure never recovered after you; after your brother, it did.'"
"Each comment stayed with me, but I never addressed it with her. I tried to move on and leave it in the past. She did a lot of horrible things throughout my life, but her behavior was always ignored because that's the precedent my dad set, where she can do essentially whatever she wants."
"A few months ago, she came to see me because I was desperate for help and sick. Instead of helping, she made my life so much worse. I won't go into details. At one point, I could no longer keep it inside, and I told her that she is a narcissist, to which she responded with, 'It would have been better if I had never had you.'"
"In some ways, it felt really good to hear her come out and say it. It felt good to hear the truth I've always known."
"I don't know what you should do, but I've chosen to not forgive."
"Every time I forgave, I just let her know that she can get away with whatever horrible things she had done. Her apologies were never real apologies. She always found ways to blame me or others for whatever she had done."
"And I'm truly just done with it. As sad as it is to not have a mom, it's sadder to pretend that you have one when in reality you don't... quite the opposite, if anything." - Neos_Mom
"So, OP, what will hurt more: keeping her and the grudge in your life or making a break and going low or no contact with her?"
"Frankly, we've no idea of what she might have been dealing with at the time, but regardless, what she said was said only to cause pain and suffering. 'Sorry' doesn't magic that intent away."
"Me, I think spending time alone or with friends or in therapy away from her might be what you need here. You might come to some sort of acceptance, but if this is something that's just going to keep coming between you, then stop trying to have that relationship." - Tal_Tos_72
After the OP received feedback, she shared a few clarifications from her original post.
"I wanted to clear some things up, take accountability where it's due, and provide some much-needed context from many people commenting the same questions."
"I want to be completely honest. We had many arguments, and I was a rebellious kid. I acted out and argued with my mom."
"I don't want to give off the impression that I was an entirely innocent kid who never did anything wrong and my mom just snapped out of nowhere. We both said hateful and hurtful things to each other during our fights."
"Growing up, the only way she would accept an apology was if I got on my knees and begged her for forgiveness. If I ever asked her to apologize to me, she would say, 'I have nothing to apologize for; you should be the one begging for my forgiveness.'"
The OP had a lot of physical memories, too.
"Things also would turn into physical arguments, not just verbal ones."
"There were times when she would get so angry she would get physical. Like yanking me by my hair, twisting my arms, or throwing things at me (like remotes, a bug spray can, or a radio)."
"When she yanked my hair, I would fight back just to get her to let me go, and she would scream that I was trying to kill her and she would get me arrested. When she twisted my arm, and I begged her to stop because it felt like it was going to break, she would say she hoped it did."
"When she threw objects at me, she would say she wished they would hit my face."
"I remember in middle school, during an argument, she said she wished she could break my face and that she hated it because I look like my dad. I won’t lie, whenever she said things like that, I would say nasty comments about how she chose to have him put us in her."
While the OP wasn't financially ready to move out yet, she hoped to as soon as possible.
"Why haven't I moved out yet? The main reason I haven't been able to move out is financial."
"I wasn't making enough to support myself without worrying about whether I’d end up having to crawl back home."
"Thankfully, I have recently found a better-paying job. My plan is to move out between mid-to-late October, or early November at the latest."
"The only reason I can't leave this exact second is because I have a few legal/administrative things to get cleared up so I’m completely untied from my mom, which will take a few weeks."
The OP also had proof that her mother liked her sister better.
"Has my mom ever admitted to favoring my sister? Yes."
"In arguments, she has explicitly told me that she doesn't see me as her legitimate daughter, and that she adored my sister more and forever will. She has also called me a 'monster,' told me there is a certain type of evil inside of me, and said she was afraid I would be just like my dad and try to harm them."
"She would even tell me that she was telling family and friends these things about me, but then later claim she 'just said it in the moment' and wouldn't be crazy enough to actually tell people that."
"Because I was so confused growing up and didn't know if she was lying or telling the truth, I started avoiding our family when they came over."
"Naturally, that just made things worse because she would get mad at me for avoiding them (even now as an adult), completely ignoring the fact that she was the one who lied about what she told them."
Unfortunately, the OP didn't have support from her father.
"What about my dad? My dad is not in my life."
"He was around sporadically, but never as a stable parent. My parents separated before I was born and divorced when I was two or three."
"Growing up, it was just constant back-and-forth toxicity, with him telling me how toxic my mother was, and her telling me the same about him."
"He would mostly only come over to see my sister, and often used me to care for her if he wanted to take her out to eat. Ultimately, my dad didn't care about anyone else other than my sister (and his drugs)."
"I hope this can clear some questions on the original post. I know I didn't provide many details as I originally should have. I honestly didn't want to post something too long, and I honestly did not expect it to be noticed."
"Thank you all for taking time to talk to me and share your thoughts."
The subReddit fully sided with the OP, pointing out that no matter how heated the moment was, it would never excuse the terrible things the OP's mother had said to her.
If the OP's mother really wanted a relationship with her, she'd drop the defensiveness and demands, offer a genuine apology, and work hard to be better for both of her children.
That takes a very rare kind of person to pull off, and it didn't sound like the OP's mother had that in her.
If you or someone you know is struggling, you can contact the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 988.
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