Freebies for family are something a lot of professionals deal with. Whether they're in the building trades or medical fields, some family members will expect their services for free.
Some do it and are happy with the results, while others do it and have nothing but horror stories about how they were treated or taken advantage of.
And what if the ask is for a pure want, not a need?
As a plumber, do you help for free when a family member has no running water in their home, but not when they want to remodel their second functional bathroom because they don't like how it looks?
An orthodontist wrestling with family wants and not needs turned to the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subReddit for feedback.
_ThrowawayDoc_ asked:
"AITA for refusing free dental work to my financially struggling family members?"
The original poster (OP) explained:
"I'm an orthodontist, 35, married to a wonderful woman, 33. Her family's always been great, but I recently had to set a boundary."
"My brother-in-law asked me to do free orthodontic work for his kids. I told him I couldn't, that I don't do free treatments, even for family—my own included."
"Free service would mean I would be the one covering all the costs. Nothing is free; someone has to pay my office staff and for any equipment or devices."
"It's not just my time/service. I would've considered doing it if it was. It's the entire team that works together. The assistant, the hygienist, the receptionist, etc..."
"Plus dental materials aren't cheap. And ortho work is not just one appointment, it's likely gonna be multiple appointments over the next few years. And they want ALL of that to be free."
"I've done free dental check ups for these kids (they're 13 and 16 now) many times—the last one being about a year back—and they didn't have any issues with their dentition. So unless they somehow developed severe malocclusions within a span of one year, I doubt it's anything that's gonna impact their quality of life or oral function."
"It's braces for aesthetic reasons only. There are different dental insurance plans. Most of them don't cover ortho work that's done for aesthetic reasons (while something like ortho work to correct functional issues would be covered)."
"Some plans cover both. I don't know what insurance plan they have."
"He got upset, saying I'm selfish and greedy because I'm successful. He made snide comments about doctors making a lot of money."
"When he said 'What's a few thousand dollars to you?', I told him my bank account isn't a piggy bank for family members."
"I explained it's about principle—fairness and consistency in my practice. Waiving fees for family would mess that up. It wouldn't be fair to my other patients who pay full price."
"To be honest, my brother-in-law's family is struggling financially, and it's hard to see them dealing with that. But I still can't justify giving them free treatment for something they don't need."
"He inherited his dad's restaurant business that was pretty successful up until a few years back. The downfall started way before COVID."
"It used to be a very profitable business, but around 2018-19 it was already incurring loses because he made some questionable decisions and now the business is in shambles. He's working on some new start up thing, though."
"My wife agrees with me, but she's really torn up about the whole thing. She's sad that her brother's being so critical and that it's causing tension between us."
"She completely understands and supports my decision. It's just that it's very irritating to me because they keep bothering her about this particular topic. At this point, she's even stopped picking up their calls."
"It's taking a toll on her, and that bothers me more than his entitlement. I'm frustrated he's dragging her into this."
"To make things worse, even my in-laws are chiming in. My mother-in-law and father-in-law keep telling me I'm being unfair and that family should come first."
"They say I should 'help out' since we're financially stable. But I don't think that's reasonable."
"To clarify, I'd help with discounts or payment plans, but free treatment? No. For the record, I offer no free treatments—not even for my own family."
"AITA?"
The OP summed up their situation.
"I refused to give free treatment to my BIL's children. He has three kids and two of them need some aesthetic orthodontic correction with their teeth; that's like thousands of dollars worth of service."
"I might be the a**hole because my BIL and his family are struggling financially and can't afford the treatment, and the family wants me to make an exception for them, but I am not doing that as I feel it's not fair to my other patients who pay the price."
"I've offered to discuss discount or future payment plans, but they want it all for free. I offered that as a compromise so they'd stop bothering my wife."
"I thought they'd accept that, but no, it has to be free."
Redditors weighed in by declaring:
- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA - You're The A**hole
- NAH - No A**holes Here
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
The majority of Redditors decided the OP was not the a**hole (NTA).
"Discounts and payment plans aren't enough? You're doing what most dentists I've known do for family—they still have to pay the hygienists and assistants and front office staff, as well as for materials... free service means none of that is covered. Just no. NTA." ~ tosser9212
"Ah, so apparently he doesn't understand how business works since he managed to run his into the ground."
"NTA—you have a lot of overhead to run your office. You were being more than generous to offer a discount." ~ sdbremer
"NTA. There are lots of ways for your BIL to pay for it, he just doesn't want to because he feels entitled."
"Ask your MIL and FIL if they are going to pay for your staff or if they are expecting your staff to work for free as well."
"Then explain to them that the reason you are financially stable is because you don't make bad financial decisions, like their son does. That you doing the treatments for free is a bad financial decision that you will not be doing because it would put you out of business."
"And that even if they agreed to pay you up front, you would refuse to do the work because BIL has proven himself to be too big of a risk to you and your family. Then cut them off and tell your wife that she's now responsible for all communication with them because them getting involved in this crossed a f*cking line." ~ Alternative-Number34
"Perhaps your in-laws can pay for these treatments since they're being so generous with money in the name of family. NTA." ~ LadybugGirltheFirst
"NTA. My husband ran into this with my family when he was doing computer repair. He did free work for them, but that meant that he wasn't doing paid work in that time slot."
"He also ended up paying for costs like gas to drive out to them, and parts. Then extended family wanted free work, and then their friends, etc..."
"In the end they weren't even grateful, and accused him of hacking their computer. He ditched the entire business as a result." ~ Lunar_Cats
"NTA. They're asking you to work for free. Do they work for free? I don't. What if they get real entitled, you do free work, then they sue you for malpractice? Warranted or not." ~ Vandreeson
"My cousin and his wife are both dentists with their own practice. Sure, they do a discount for family, but never for free. And we'd never expect that."
"They're running a business with substantial operating costs, spent 6 years studying—their time has value and it would be incredibly disrespectful to expect them to dish it out for free."
"In return for the discount, we direct all our friends to them, which helps their business grow but also means our friends get quality work without being ripped off. You are NTA." ~ didthefabrictear
"NTA. Your BIL is the one creating the problem for your wife—not you. Her parents chiming in demonstrates why your BIL is so entitled."
"It's just beyond the pale that your in-laws feel they can make demands on your work and insult you for having clear boundaries. It's really your wife's job to put her family in their place. Your offer of helping with financing is a sound one." ~ Content-Plenty-268
"NTA. 'Free' would be charging them your costs, not no charges at all. You still have overhead, materials, staff etc. Not to mention your own time/opportunity cost."
"I'd be really careful about helping with discounts and especially payment plans. They seem to think you can take the loss, and will likely not pay." ~ Kingalthor
"If you don't charge for your service, is it still covered by your professional liability insurance, etc? My understanding is that insurance policies are audited based on gross receipts, and if you had a claim that wasn't a part of the numbers included in the audit, is that not insurance fraud in your profession?"
"Genuinely asking, I am only basing this on my own business model, which is NOT healthcare related at all. Anyway, if doing it for free means your insurance doesn't cover it, that seems a pretty easy out. You already can't trust that he'll stay civil... NTA." ~ HumDrumSuccumb
Others felt OP was obligated to offer free orthodontic work for his brother-in-law's kids, which some Redditors addressed.
"OP has said this is an aesthetic need, not medical. In other words, these kids don't have perfect, straight, pretty teeth and their father wants him to give them that."
"Most people in middle to low income families don't have perfect smiles either. Those kids will live and can pay to get their smile corrected when they're adults, if it's still a priority for them."
"So many people saying OP has to provide free aesthetic care or he's an a**hole."
"If he was a plastic surgeon, would you demand free rhinoplasty if the kids didn't have perfect noses? Or breast implants because the daughter wants D cups because they think it will look better in a bikini?"
"This is the same situation. They don't NEED braces. They WANT perfect teeth. NTA, OP." ~ MohawMais
"It really is an American thing for every child to get braces. You have provided dental care to them in the past and you know it is not an urgent need."
"I think offering to do it at cost would be a nice thing to do, but for free? Nope. NTA. Wanting a pretty smile is not the same thing as urgent medical needs." ~ Flimsy-Field-8321
Some comments mimicked the in-laws' "family first" mindset, often with stories of what free things they were getting off family, friends, or employers.
But most disagreed.
Everyone from hairdressers to carpenters to neurosurgeons shared their horror stories of providing freebies to family. Some medical professionals added that they won't treat family at all, paid or not.
Based on their bad experiences, avoiding it altogether sounds like the safest bet for OP.
















New Mom Irate After Father-In-Law Ruins Her Birthday With 'Vulgar' Comment About Her Breasts
There's nothing quite like the feeling of going through all the work to prepare a fun celebration, just for someone to undo it with an unkind or gross comment.
That feeling just gets worse when it's your birthday, and that comment was made by someone who's supposed to care about you, sympathized the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Rude-Pepper-2389 had recently given birth and decided to have a special birthday celebration to reconnect with her loved ones after becoming a mom.
When her father-in-law stopped by unexpectedly and then made comments about her body, the Original Poster (OP) was left so uncomfortable that it ruined the whole celebration for her.
She asked the sub:
The OP wanted to have a special birthday celebration after her baby was born.
"I currently have a five-month-old and haven’t really been taking care of myself or dressing up since having the baby."
"It’s my (25 Female) birthday, and we were having friends over at our house for a private dinner to celebrate."
"My husband (24 Male) and I have been together since we were 18."
"I decided to put on this new silk shirt I got, which, admittedly, was low-cut, but I felt cute in it and felt comfortable around the friends we were having over."
Everything was fine until the OP's father-in-law (FIL) stopped by unexpectedly.
"My husband's dad decided to stop by on his way home from work."
"I will say, he was likely drunk. He works two hours away and proudly told my husband he's down to only four beers on his drive home each day... so, that's healthy."
"When he came in, I was on the couch with my baby propped up beside me, bottle feeding him. Keep in mind, I am not breastfeeding, so no, my breasts are not any larger right now."
"My husband's dad leaned down to look at the baby and then suddenly shouted, 'D**n, son, she could knock you out with those things in bed! Like cracking two coconuts together.'"
"This was fully and undoubtedly in reference to my breasts."
The OP was shocked by the comment and very uncomfortable.
"It made me deeply uncomfortable and embarrassed."
"I was so stunned, I couldn’t even process what he said to me, and our friends just stared at me, blinking."
"He’s a redneck, so he's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years, but this just seems to take the cake, as it was the first time it was directed at me."
"When he stepped out, I told my husband he needed to speak to him, and that the comment wasn’t okay."
"I went to change clothes and decided to never ever wear that shirt again."
"When I brought it up to my husband, he said he didn't hear the comment at first, but then he laughed when I told him what he said. He's always laughed when he feels awkward and has always had a hard time standing up to his parents in any capacity."
"When he and my father-in-law spoke, my FIL just said, 'I shouldn’t have said that to her, I know how she can be,' which just feels even more like I’m just being dramatic."
"Since then, I think my husband just wants me to drop it and move on, truthfully."
The OP wasn't sure what to do after what happened.
"This genuinely ruined my entire night. Am I just too sensitive, or was this an inappropriate thing to say?"
"There's also been no apology since then. This happened on Thursday, and then my father-in-law came by again on Friday with flowers to wish me a happy Mother's Day before Mother's Day Sunday."
"I think that was his way of trying to just breeze past the awkwardness. He's never gotten me a gift the whole seven years I've known him, so the flowers were odd. But I still feel really uncomfortable."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that her father-in-law's comments were rude and just plain creepy.
"NOR at all. That was really rude of him. Anyone would be offended." - Bookbringer
"NOR. That’s firmly in the category of what should be an 'inside thought,' and we should learn what those are at a much younger age than this guy is."
"F**king h**l, this is an absolutely mental thing to say out loud, let alone to your daughter-in-law." - Electronic-Fennel828
"FIL is an AH. I love that you think his being a redneck excuses it, but d**n. Even rednecks should know better than to speak that way to their son's wife."
"What does your husband have to say? Does he understand how breath-takingly rude his father was, or is he Team 'That's Just How He Is'?"
"I'd go very low contact with the old perv. NOR, he put you in an uncomfortable position with his crude remark. Is he married? I'd tell the MIL. I'd tell the whole family. Yes, it's embarrassing, but he is the one who should be embarrassed. Don't accept his non-apology." - Top-Bit85
"Maybe I’m desensitized after having large breasts since I was 13 (I’m 28 now), but I let out a little snort based on how immature of a joke it was. I’d simply tell FIL, 'Yes, I know, my boobs are big,' and move on."
"That said, I would never make such a comment about another person's body. Just because I'm technically fine with it doesn't mean I assume anyone else is!"
"Not everyone is the same, and if OP felt uncomfortable, she’s NOR. Her body, her boundaries." - Both_Original2094
"I’m sorry. That’s upsetting. My father is like this with his father. Even if it’s very offensive comments, he’s uncomfortable and has problems confronting him. It sounds like your husband isn’t going to have a talk with him, which is hurtful."
"I would explain to your husband how uncomfortable the situation was for you and that it’s a serious matter, especially if it happens again. And if he still tries to brush it off, then I would tell him you no longer want your FIL coming to your home."
"It’s your life, too, and he’s not the one being hurt here, you are." - w_coastultraviolence
Others were specifically angry about the tactics the father-in-law used to try to get out of trouble.
"Seriously? Saying 'I know how she can be' is a classic way to blame the victim for having boundaries. It’s your birthday, not a Hooters convention. What a creep. If he can’t look at the baby without checking out your breast, he shouldn't be invited to the house." - Specific_Parsnip3264
"'I know how she can be' is so f**ked up. He's the one being a disgusting person. You need to shine up your husband's spine to properly call him out at the time next time, because there will be a next time." - dancepantz
"The bit that pisses me off the most is, 'I know how she can be,' which is his way of making it her problem that she doesn't like her FiL sexualising her in front of her friends." - Outside-Partait-8935
"The 'joke' comment is gross, but that follow-up comment is infuriating. NOR, OP. But this guy will be in your life for a while, so firmly & calmly shutting this stuff down is completely appropriate."
"I'd wear the d**n shirt again to the next family function and look him right in the eyes next time!" - RationalFish
"When we let things like this slide for others, it's not long before it ends up on our doorstep, and of course, nobody says anything because keeping the peace is the norm. It doesn't have to be getting into their face and yelling abuse back. Just a comment such as, 'Well, that's super tacky to say,' or asking them why they'd say that." - Kattnapped
"The OP said, 'He's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years... but this is the first time it was directed to me.'"
"Normalise calling stuff out when they are talking about others, and they won't feel so comfortable saying it to you."
"It's a gross thing for him to say, but I guess him buying you flowers is his way of saying sorry."
"Sounds like you are in the situation of a lot of new mothers, where you suddenly realise this stuff matters because you want better influences for your child, and better support for yourself. NOR." - Jumpy-Jello-
Now, about that shirt...
"Please re-think your decision to never wear the cute shirt again, girl!! It's something that you liked very much because it made you feel good about yourself. Don't let some backwoods id**t ruin that for you."
"Wear that shirt till it's worn out and can't be worn anymore!! You should be able to feel good about yourself in whatever you like to wear."
"Your husband should have immediately checked his father, not waited until he was told to do so after his father left the room. In front of everyone there, your husband should have told his father not to ever speak about you or to you in that kind of manner, and if his father doesn't like it, he knows where the door is."
"Hubby should have called him out for his response as well. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were not the problem; his dad was. This comes down to your husband needing to protect his wife, and he didn't do that." - Lynzo141982
"If he is a redneck, like you said, he won't outright apologize, but flowers are his way of saying sorry."
"I hope he won't say anything again, or else you can expect a nicely tended garden for at least a year."
"About your top, I hope you can wear it again. It takes a lot to feel cute, being a new mum."
"If not, get some fabric dye, dye the top a different color, and embroider a flower on it. This makes the top new, different, and every time you wear it, you can use the mantra ... I'm cute, I don't care what anyone says."
"You've got this!!" - No_Kangaroo_6637
Even if the father-in-law was joking and meant no harm, this is one of those situations where he needs to admit that his joke did not land well, he did cause harm, and he needs to apologize. Just because some people enjoy joking in that manner does not mean that everyone will be comfortable with it, and it's important to respect everyone's boundaries and zones of comfort.