Parents usually want to leave something behind for their children.
For some parents that means an inheritance of money or property. For others it's memories and mementos.
A mother who wants to leave the latter for her daughters turned to the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subReddit for feedback.
Important_Shape7353 asked:
"AITA for making keepsake books for my daughters that don't include my husband?"
The original poster (OP) explained:
"So, I (31, female) have been making books for my daughters (6 & 2) since my first was born. Every year on their birthdays, I write them a letter talking about them and how much I love them and I have been pasting them in a book next to a picture of me and them for each year."
"I plan on gifting these books to them when they turn 16. My thinking was that we don't tell the people we love how much we love them and I never want my daughters to question my love."
"You also never know how life is going to pan out and this way they will always have a personal memento of my own words in case anything were to happen to me."
"Now, my husband (33) has always known about this. I was never keeping it from him."
"I would write the notes on my phone and then when I got the time would write them out to put in the book. He would even go through my phone and take snippets of what I wrote from my notes and post it to his Instagram."
"The problem arose when my oldest daughter had just turned 4 and he came across me actually putting a letter in the book. He looked at the book and the pictures of me and her and said 'what about me?'."
"He was angry that I hadn't included him and insisted that I either go back and change all the letters to say 'we' instead of 'I' and print new pictures that have him in them or stop making the book."
"I haven't stopped making these books because I think they will be important for my girls to have. I've just put them at the back of a cupboard hoping he won't find them."
"I feel like they are about my relationship with my daughters and I'm a little sad that my husband doesn't see the value in that. But I feel uncomfortable that they are now a secret from him."
"I guess I need some outsider opinions."
"AITA or is my husband being unreasonable here?"
The OP later added:
"To be clear, because it seems some people have misinterpreted, these books are not full of photos documenting my children's lives."
"Just one page per year with a letter from me and one photo of me with said child."
The OP summed up their situation.
"I am counting to make this book even though my husband asked me not too. Does that make me the arsehole?"
"And was I the arsehole in the first place for making the book without including him in it?"
Redditors weighed in by declaring:
- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA - You're The A**hole
- NAH - No A**holes Here
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
Redditors decided the OP was not the a**hole (NTA).
"I am in the NTA camp. I don't think that two parents have to always be lumped into everything together. It's okay for children to bond with one individual parent without the other one sometimes."
"The same way it's important for parents to have one-on-one time with each child in multi-children households. I see no issue with a gift being from 'just you' or 'just your husband'."
"I also take issue with any parent of any gender who just 'expects' that the other parent will do everything for them. You have been investing in this 16 year project since they were born... something that will be beautiful and sentimental and requires time and commitment."
"It's not like you started it in secret, either. At any rate, to me the fact that your husband wants to 'get in on it' despite never having even seen it, never offered to help even choose a photo or thought to write a letter would send me into a rage."
"That's some real 'sign my name on the card'—of a gift they have no idea what is even in the box—energy and it's not okay."
"There is nothing stopping your husband from creating his own sentimental gift."
"I didn't read this as you trying to intentionally exclude him, as much as you just wanted a book of photos and letters of you and your children and honestly I see nothing wrong with that. It's an amazing gift." ~ fallingfaster345
"Exactly! He knew about this project and never asked to add anything to it or help, he just wants her to change all the wording to 'we' when he didn't contribute at all." ~ Unhappy-Prune-9914
"And their daughters will know. We all know when dad has no clue what was gifted for our birthdays, when his handwriting never appears on a card, etc... And that cheapens the whole thing and defeats the point."
"Scrapbooks of letters might not be for dad, but he can find his own way to show his daughters he cares and that'll mean so much more than the fake 'we'." ~ ausernamebyany_other
"I still contend that my father is illiterate because my birthday cards went from having my mother's writing, to his girlfriend's writing, to his mother's writing." ~ HavePlushieWillTalk
"My grandfather was illiterate, but after my grandmother died he learned to write 'love from Grandad' so he could still give me birthday cards."
"It baffles me that there are men out there who don't write/sign birthday cards for their children, grandchildren or partners." ~ Ermithecow
"I would tell him you would love to include a letter written by him and a picture of him and the daughter each year. DO NOT take on the emotional work of his relationship with your daughters."
"Women have been sucked into the maintaining relationships role and it never works. You cannot maintain a relationship for two other people—it is between them." ~ unimaginative_person
"Don't do the work for him. Get him to organise his own letters and photos to be included, but don't remind him."
"You're his partner, not his mother. NTA, OP. What a beautiful gift you are creating for your girls." ~ Ditzykat105
"NTA. Yeah, it isn't your job to manage, coordinate, schedule, prompt, or organize his relationship with y'all's children. He is their father and presumably a grown-up who is capable of facilitating relationships with people he cares about."
"Bonding, nurturing and building a connection between a parent and a child is dependent on the parent doing stuff themselves to build that connection."
"It is like doing someone's homework for them—you can, but you shouldn't. Helping or making a suggestion is totally different than doing the entire assignment for them."
"Basically, he wants you to do his homework."
"Seriously, a kid doesn't want to hear their mom say 'your dad loves you'—they want their dad to actually say the 'I love you'." ~ throwawtphone
"Exactly, he's even taking bits of what she wrote to post online as if he's writing it. He wants the credit, but doesn't want to put in the effort."
"I'd have been willing to give a little benefit of the doubt on that bit if he was asking to add his own letters or contributions, but he doesn't."
"OP, make sure you scan in and make digital versions of the books for safe keeping. If you feel you have to hide them, you should listen to that instinct and have backups." ~ shangri-laschild
"NTA. Tell your husband the next time he asks, 'What about me?' that he can do his own just as easily as you as they are a diary of your feelings towards them. And his would be just as great as well."
"I think it is great what you are doing for your children. Keep up the good work, your children will cherish them no doubt later in life." ~ PumpkinPowerful3292
"NTA. OMG, what a blatant example of a man believing that he is entitled to have the emotional work of a family be done by his wife but credited to him. Sadly, while appalling, it is not a surprise." ~ WantToBelieveInMagic
"Can't he write his own letters?"
"Does he also make you choose, research buy and wrap all gifts and just write the card to include him too?"
"Love is more than a feeling. You can't outsource expressing your love."
"I don't want to be harsh, because historically men in western cultures have outsourced their expressions of love to their wives. I know that my own dad (in his 90s now) has told me he loves me a total of once in my life."
"It's what a lot of men learned. But with compassion for the origin of this learned behaviour—you have to say 'NO, you cannot out source your expressions of love'."
"You can approach this with compassion by including photos that show him in a loving or fun moment with his babies, and you can offer to include any letters from him. NTA." ~ HappySummerBreeze
"NTA. He was aware of it, he liked your work enough to post pieces of it on social media for the accolades it would get him."
"And now he wants to act all hurt that he never put in the time and effort to actually contribute to this project and wants you to either stop doing something to show your daughters you love them or go back and retroactively add him in to something he had absolutely nothing to do with so he gets to take credit for something he didn't do?"
"Nah, f*ck that. He can come up with his own idea or start making his own letters."
"I'll even give him a free idea: your six-year-old probably graduated kindergarten this past spring right? Have him write a letter about that and continue writing a letter every year when they finish each year of school and he can give them as a graduation present."
"It's different from yours, but still meaningful, and he can be responsible for doing all the work himself instead of getting angry." ~ SheepPup
Changing the books isn't a good long-term solution. Instead, an honest discussion with OP's husband about why his request is unacceptable would be better.
















New Mom Irate After Father-In-Law Ruins Her Birthday With 'Vulgar' Comment About Her Breasts
There's nothing quite like the feeling of going through all the work to prepare a fun celebration, just for someone to undo it with an unkind or gross comment.
That feeling just gets worse when it's your birthday, and that comment was made by someone who's supposed to care about you, sympathized the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Rude-Pepper-2389 had recently given birth and decided to have a special birthday celebration to reconnect with her loved ones after becoming a mom.
When her father-in-law stopped by unexpectedly and then made comments about her body, the Original Poster (OP) was left so uncomfortable that it ruined the whole celebration for her.
She asked the sub:
The OP wanted to have a special birthday celebration after her baby was born.
"I currently have a five-month-old and haven’t really been taking care of myself or dressing up since having the baby."
"It’s my (25 Female) birthday, and we were having friends over at our house for a private dinner to celebrate."
"My husband (24 Male) and I have been together since we were 18."
"I decided to put on this new silk shirt I got, which, admittedly, was low-cut, but I felt cute in it and felt comfortable around the friends we were having over."
Everything was fine until the OP's father-in-law (FIL) stopped by unexpectedly.
"My husband's dad decided to stop by on his way home from work."
"I will say, he was likely drunk. He works two hours away and proudly told my husband he's down to only four beers on his drive home each day... so, that's healthy."
"When he came in, I was on the couch with my baby propped up beside me, bottle feeding him. Keep in mind, I am not breastfeeding, so no, my breasts are not any larger right now."
"My husband's dad leaned down to look at the baby and then suddenly shouted, 'D**n, son, she could knock you out with those things in bed! Like cracking two coconuts together.'"
"This was fully and undoubtedly in reference to my breasts."
The OP was shocked by the comment and very uncomfortable.
"It made me deeply uncomfortable and embarrassed."
"I was so stunned, I couldn’t even process what he said to me, and our friends just stared at me, blinking."
"He’s a redneck, so he's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years, but this just seems to take the cake, as it was the first time it was directed at me."
"When he stepped out, I told my husband he needed to speak to him, and that the comment wasn’t okay."
"I went to change clothes and decided to never ever wear that shirt again."
"When I brought it up to my husband, he said he didn't hear the comment at first, but then he laughed when I told him what he said. He's always laughed when he feels awkward and has always had a hard time standing up to his parents in any capacity."
"When he and my father-in-law spoke, my FIL just said, 'I shouldn’t have said that to her, I know how she can be,' which just feels even more like I’m just being dramatic."
"Since then, I think my husband just wants me to drop it and move on, truthfully."
The OP wasn't sure what to do after what happened.
"This genuinely ruined my entire night. Am I just too sensitive, or was this an inappropriate thing to say?"
"There's also been no apology since then. This happened on Thursday, and then my father-in-law came by again on Friday with flowers to wish me a happy Mother's Day before Mother's Day Sunday."
"I think that was his way of trying to just breeze past the awkwardness. He's never gotten me a gift the whole seven years I've known him, so the flowers were odd. But I still feel really uncomfortable."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that her father-in-law's comments were rude and just plain creepy.
"NOR at all. That was really rude of him. Anyone would be offended." - Bookbringer
"NOR. That’s firmly in the category of what should be an 'inside thought,' and we should learn what those are at a much younger age than this guy is."
"F**king h**l, this is an absolutely mental thing to say out loud, let alone to your daughter-in-law." - Electronic-Fennel828
"FIL is an AH. I love that you think his being a redneck excuses it, but d**n. Even rednecks should know better than to speak that way to their son's wife."
"What does your husband have to say? Does he understand how breath-takingly rude his father was, or is he Team 'That's Just How He Is'?"
"I'd go very low contact with the old perv. NOR, he put you in an uncomfortable position with his crude remark. Is he married? I'd tell the MIL. I'd tell the whole family. Yes, it's embarrassing, but he is the one who should be embarrassed. Don't accept his non-apology." - Top-Bit85
"Maybe I’m desensitized after having large breasts since I was 13 (I’m 28 now), but I let out a little snort based on how immature of a joke it was. I’d simply tell FIL, 'Yes, I know, my boobs are big,' and move on."
"That said, I would never make such a comment about another person's body. Just because I'm technically fine with it doesn't mean I assume anyone else is!"
"Not everyone is the same, and if OP felt uncomfortable, she’s NOR. Her body, her boundaries." - Both_Original2094
"I’m sorry. That’s upsetting. My father is like this with his father. Even if it’s very offensive comments, he’s uncomfortable and has problems confronting him. It sounds like your husband isn’t going to have a talk with him, which is hurtful."
"I would explain to your husband how uncomfortable the situation was for you and that it’s a serious matter, especially if it happens again. And if he still tries to brush it off, then I would tell him you no longer want your FIL coming to your home."
"It’s your life, too, and he’s not the one being hurt here, you are." - w_coastultraviolence
Others were specifically angry about the tactics the father-in-law used to try to get out of trouble.
"Seriously? Saying 'I know how she can be' is a classic way to blame the victim for having boundaries. It’s your birthday, not a Hooters convention. What a creep. If he can’t look at the baby without checking out your breast, he shouldn't be invited to the house." - Specific_Parsnip3264
"'I know how she can be' is so f**ked up. He's the one being a disgusting person. You need to shine up your husband's spine to properly call him out at the time next time, because there will be a next time." - dancepantz
"The bit that pisses me off the most is, 'I know how she can be,' which is his way of making it her problem that she doesn't like her FiL sexualising her in front of her friends." - Outside-Partait-8935
"The 'joke' comment is gross, but that follow-up comment is infuriating. NOR, OP. But this guy will be in your life for a while, so firmly & calmly shutting this stuff down is completely appropriate."
"I'd wear the d**n shirt again to the next family function and look him right in the eyes next time!" - RationalFish
"When we let things like this slide for others, it's not long before it ends up on our doorstep, and of course, nobody says anything because keeping the peace is the norm. It doesn't have to be getting into their face and yelling abuse back. Just a comment such as, 'Well, that's super tacky to say,' or asking them why they'd say that." - Kattnapped
"The OP said, 'He's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years... but this is the first time it was directed to me.'"
"Normalise calling stuff out when they are talking about others, and they won't feel so comfortable saying it to you."
"It's a gross thing for him to say, but I guess him buying you flowers is his way of saying sorry."
"Sounds like you are in the situation of a lot of new mothers, where you suddenly realise this stuff matters because you want better influences for your child, and better support for yourself. NOR." - Jumpy-Jello-
Now, about that shirt...
"Please re-think your decision to never wear the cute shirt again, girl!! It's something that you liked very much because it made you feel good about yourself. Don't let some backwoods id**t ruin that for you."
"Wear that shirt till it's worn out and can't be worn anymore!! You should be able to feel good about yourself in whatever you like to wear."
"Your husband should have immediately checked his father, not waited until he was told to do so after his father left the room. In front of everyone there, your husband should have told his father not to ever speak about you or to you in that kind of manner, and if his father doesn't like it, he knows where the door is."
"Hubby should have called him out for his response as well. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were not the problem; his dad was. This comes down to your husband needing to protect his wife, and he didn't do that." - Lynzo141982
"If he is a redneck, like you said, he won't outright apologize, but flowers are his way of saying sorry."
"I hope he won't say anything again, or else you can expect a nicely tended garden for at least a year."
"About your top, I hope you can wear it again. It takes a lot to feel cute, being a new mum."
"If not, get some fabric dye, dye the top a different color, and embroider a flower on it. This makes the top new, different, and every time you wear it, you can use the mantra ... I'm cute, I don't care what anyone says."
"You've got this!!" - No_Kangaroo_6637
Even if the father-in-law was joking and meant no harm, this is one of those situations where he needs to admit that his joke did not land well, he did cause harm, and he needs to apologize. Just because some people enjoy joking in that manner does not mean that everyone will be comfortable with it, and it's important to respect everyone's boundaries and zones of comfort.