Grief is an absolutely impossible emotion, and it presents differently for each person.
Where one person might want to let go of everything that reminds them of a late loved one, others will find it impossible to let go of anything, empathized the "Am I the A**hole?" (AITA) subReddit.
Redditor Potential-Junket-193 was struggling with parting with his late wife's possessions, but he was especially attached to her wedding dress, which she loved and wore on every one of their anniversaries, as well.
His daughter wanted to wear her late mother's wedding dress but would need to get it significantly altered to fit into it, the Original Poster (OP) couldn't fathom the idea of having his late wife's dress cut up for someone else's special day.
He asked the sub:
"AITA for not allowing my daughter to wear her late mother's wedding dress since she will not fit into it?"
The OP and his daughter couldn't agree on what to do with his late wife's wedding dress.
"My late wife was a very small person. When we got married, she was only 115 pounds. So her wedding dress size reflects that."
"She passed away two years ago, so she cannot attend our daughter's wedding which will be in 2025."
"Now my daughter wants to wear the dress, and I told her it wouldn't be a good idea since she won't be able to squeeze into it (I didn't say 'squeeze into it' to her; that would be rude)."
"She told me she could just up the size of it and I told her I would think about it. I looked into it, and they basically cut the dress up to size it up."
The OP didn't believe this was what his wife would have wanted.
"My wife always wanted to go dress shopping with our daughters. She loved her wedding dress, and I don't think she would be okay with it being cut up."
"My wife loved that dress. She would never want scissors to be anywhere near it. She used to wear it on every wedding anniversary (it's a straight white gown with beading)."
"I think she would prefer it in a box that getting cut up and made into something new."
The OP tried to offer an alternate solution, which his daughter did not appreciate.
"I informed her no, she couldn't wear the dress since they would be cutting it up."
"This resulted in a huge argument about me gatekeeping my wife's things."
"I told her no again and that she could wear some of her jewelry."
"She hung up. She clearly thinks I am a jerk, and my sons are now on me to give up the dress."
The OP simply was not ready to do this.
"It really feels like I am cutting up her memory and keepsake, especially when I don't think she would want this to her dress. I am not ready to let go of this piece of my wife and only have a picture of our wedding day."
"I don't know my daughter's weight, but she is overweight. It would need to be sized up quite a bit."
"Also, even if my daughters were smaller than my wife, and the dress needed to be sized down, that would still result in it being cut into, and my answer would be the same."
"AITA?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
- NTA: Not the A**hole
- YTA: You're the A**hole
- ESH: Everybody Sucks Here
- NAH: No A**holes Here
Some reassured the OP that he was not wrong to want to keep his late wife's dress intact.
"A year ago, I probably would have said you were an A H. Your wife doesn't need the dress and won't be able to go shopping, so why not? But in the last year, I lost my mom after taking care of her in my home for nine years. (Yes, I know it's different to lose a spouse; my daughter lost her husband.)"
"My point is that I now realize that people grieve differently, and we cannot dictate to someone else what they should or should not do."
"You are not ready to give up your late wife's dress to be cut up and remade. It's that simple; you're not ready. End of discussion. NTA." - JustUgh2323
"NTA. Not sure why people are not getting that this is a personal treasure of OP's, the dress his late wife married him in." - fly1away
"NTA. Not every person who saves their wedding dress intends to pass it down or give it to a relative to wear later on. Your wife intended to go dress shopping with her daughters had she not passed."
"You're allowed to keep the dress the way your wife intended or let your daughter use it. It sounds like if it wouldn't be cut up and returned to you after it was worn, you'd be fine with her using it. But since it'd be completely taken apart, you aren't ok with it."
"Look into getting a replica made in your daughter's size if it's not possible to find another one online or at a vintage wedding shop."
"Also, you have two daughters. The dress shouldn't be cut up and then kept by one daughter in the event the other daughter also wants to use it."
"I think giving her the wedding jewelry is a great compromise." - Glum_Hamster_1076
"The fact that you appear to have more than one daughter makes this an NTA from me. I presume the others are also unmarried and therefore would feel they have equal claim to their mother's dress?"
"Do you still have the veil? That at least could be offered on the proviso it's returned so your other daughters can wear it in the future." - NannyOggsKnickers
"NTA. Most people are unable to fathom how devastating the loss of a spouse is. At the two-year mark, you are still in early grief."
"My husband died unexpectedly, I gave his daughters some things right off the bat, but others I'm having a difficult time parting with, and it activates the 'fight or flight' centers of my traumatized brain. Make no mistake, our brains are traumatized, and our decisions may not seem rational to others, but they don't know what this kind of grief will do to you."
"Before anyone says, 'SHE LOST HER MOTHER,' I get that, I honestly do. My son was five when my husband died, and it kills me knowing he will grow up without his dad."
"Also, while I vote NTA, I think you should let her wear the dress. I'm not in your position, but I can imagine that thinking about someone cutting the dress apart might feel like you are losing another part of her when you have already lost so much. You're not losing her again by letting your daughter wear the dress and feel like a part of her mom is with her on her special day."
"I also imagine it could be extra emotional for you to see her in the dress your wife wore on your happy day together. Perhaps that's driving some of your reluctance to let her wear the dress, or maybe I'm totally off the mark."
"If you don't already work with a therapist/grief counselor, I would encourage it and encourage you to explore your feelings beyond 'she wouldn't want it cut up.' I always find there are deeper emotions under those hard decisions for me. Maybe you're just not able to put your finger on it beyond thinking the dress will be ruined."
"The dress will be fine, but you're risking ruining your relationship instead. Salvage this relationship with your daughter. We are alone enough as it is. You need each other." - Illustrious_Truck623
Others offered gentle YTA ratings for "gatekeeping" the dress from his daughters.
"What are you saving it for? Your wife won't ever wear it again. It's going to sit in a closet or attic forever."
"Your daughter wants to honor her mother and feel connected to her by wearing the dress. Your other daughter may want to in the future as well."
"This is a legacy from her to her daughters. It really is wrong for you to keep it from them. You will be YTA if you don't change your stance." - SamiHami24
"As a mom, I can't imagine prioritizing an intact dress on my deathbed over the potential joy my daughter would get from wearing it. I'm actually planning my wedding, and I looooove the dress I'm going to get, and if I am still alive when my daughter gets married, I'd prefer for it not to be altered beyond recognition."
"But if she wanted to wear it and needed it altered to fit her, I'd be honored. If I'm not alive, the thought of not being present on an important day is heartbreaking to me, and if she can alter the dress to make it fit, I would want that."
"I'm sorry, but YTA here as I don't think you're really considering the fact that your daughter doesn't have a mother to shop with or be at her wedding. The dress represents that for her." - yuiopouu
"I get the feeling OP is gatekeeping a lot of wife's things as a result of his grief and perhaps not sharing with his daughters as much as he should. Seems like it could be a bigger issue than a wedding dress."
"Anyway, I feel for you OP but YTA. Your daughter has a perfectly valid use for her mother's dress. While it's understandably precious to you, it's not doing anyone any good sitting around collecting dust when your daughter can have it as a special part of her wedding day in memory of her mother." - andromache97
"You lost your wife and I'm sorry. Your daughter lost a mother too. It would be an honor to your wife's memory if this dress and the love you had be passed down through generations."
"You say your wife wanted to go dress shopping, as all moms do! But she can't, and think about what she would want and what will become of the dress after you pass away if not continued for another generation. Soft YTA." - Proper-District8608
"Soft YTA. I understand your attachment, but look at it this way...your daughter misses her mom deeply and sees this as a way for her to be there. In the end, the dress is just a "thing". Your relationship with your daughters is much, MUCH more important than a dress."
"My suggestion:"
"1. Invite BOTH daughters over to talk about the dress."
"2. APOLOGIZE. Explain that you're sorry, you miss her too and your grief got in the way."
"3. Ask them BOTH if they want to use the dress and how it could be done."
"Suggest that the three of you visit someone qualified to make these changes to discuss options."
"If they both want to use the dress, a better solution may be to not alter it for the daughter getting married first, but to take pieces of the dress to combine into a new dress. This would allow each daughter to have a piece of their mother's dress integrated into their own dress that they each can keep."
"I also recommend that you keep a piece as well to create a shadow box that has other keepsakes of your wife, and your wedding, along with photos. That would be wonderful to have up in your house vs keeping her dress in a box in a closet." - johnny9k
Some empathized with the OP and offered a beautiful alternate solution.
"Dig deep here. WHY do you want to keep the dress? Is it a piece of your wife you're not ready to let go of yet? Does cutting it up feel like you're cutting up a memory or a keepsake?"
"This is obviously not about the dress itself or how your wife 'would' have felt about it, but about how YOU feel about it. Which is OK, but don't forget, you have some time to process this."
"You may find yourself okay with it after more time has passed. Or not. It's okay to be honest about your reasons for declining but leave the door open to your stance changing later." - Right_Count
"Honestly, as a woman, I feel like this is an ok line to draw but be honest with your daughter. Your wife, who is now gone, wore the dress in its current state on the day she married YOU and it's precious to you in the state it is currently in, not altered. That's ok."
"If your daughter responds that she is also her mother, that's ok. You both lost a huge part of your world the day you lost her."
"You have offered your daughter to wear the jewelry which will not need to be altered for her to wear and she can still wear a piece of her mother on her special day without altering your piece. Compassion works two ways and you can express that to her without putting her down or making her weight part of the problem. NAH." - FlossieOnyx
"If your daughter has the ability to pay for (or the skill to make) a custom dress, might I add another suggestion? A good dressmaker could use the original (WITHOUT damaging it in any way and handling it very carefully) to make a pattern based on the original, size that up to fit the daughter, and construct a 'reproduction' of the dress directly based on the mother's."
"OP would get to keep his wife's dress intact; the daughter would get a dress whose creation was a direct product of her mother's (semi-symbolically similar to how she shares traits, etc., with her mother while also being a fully unique person)."
"If the daughter or anyone in the family wants to attempt to make something like this themselves but doesn't know how, let me know, and I can link some resources!!" - joseph_wolfstar
"This is honestly the best way to go about it."
"If the number of modifications that need to be made to the dress for OP's daughter to be able to fit the dress are as comprehensive as OP is saying, then I (personally) don't think it'll be as meaningful for the daughter to wear because it would basically be an Argos Paradox dress."
"The best thing to do is to find a competent tailor to repattern the dress and make a properly fitted sized duplicate from scratch." - mythrillcrafter
"Yes, this and NTA. This is a beautiful solution. I'd bawl my eyes out if my dad made these arrangements for me. It probably would mean even MORE to me than wearing my mom's original wedding dress because it would be based on her dress, her dress would still be intact, and I would have known that my dad did this just for me. Win-win... win-win-win." - ShutUpMorrisseyffs
The subReddit completely understood why the OP was struggling so much with this and empathized with his need to keep the items in his home that celebrated his late wife's memories.
But some felt that, while it would be hard to do at first, the OP might treasure the memory of seeing his daughter in his wife's dress or a reproduction of the dress, as he'd be able to remember his wedding day and anniversaries while celebrating his daughter's special day and future.
















New Mom Irate After Father-In-Law Ruins Her Birthday With 'Vulgar' Comment About Her Breasts
There's nothing quite like the feeling of going through all the work to prepare a fun celebration, just for someone to undo it with an unkind or gross comment.
That feeling just gets worse when it's your birthday, and that comment was made by someone who's supposed to care about you, sympathized the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Rude-Pepper-2389 had recently given birth and decided to have a special birthday celebration to reconnect with her loved ones after becoming a mom.
When her father-in-law stopped by unexpectedly and then made comments about her body, the Original Poster (OP) was left so uncomfortable that it ruined the whole celebration for her.
She asked the sub:
The OP wanted to have a special birthday celebration after her baby was born.
"I currently have a five-month-old and haven’t really been taking care of myself or dressing up since having the baby."
"It’s my (25 Female) birthday, and we were having friends over at our house for a private dinner to celebrate."
"My husband (24 Male) and I have been together since we were 18."
"I decided to put on this new silk shirt I got, which, admittedly, was low-cut, but I felt cute in it and felt comfortable around the friends we were having over."
Everything was fine until the OP's father-in-law (FIL) stopped by unexpectedly.
"My husband's dad decided to stop by on his way home from work."
"I will say, he was likely drunk. He works two hours away and proudly told my husband he's down to only four beers on his drive home each day... so, that's healthy."
"When he came in, I was on the couch with my baby propped up beside me, bottle feeding him. Keep in mind, I am not breastfeeding, so no, my breasts are not any larger right now."
"My husband's dad leaned down to look at the baby and then suddenly shouted, 'D**n, son, she could knock you out with those things in bed! Like cracking two coconuts together.'"
"This was fully and undoubtedly in reference to my breasts."
The OP was shocked by the comment and very uncomfortable.
"It made me deeply uncomfortable and embarrassed."
"I was so stunned, I couldn’t even process what he said to me, and our friends just stared at me, blinking."
"He’s a redneck, so he's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years, but this just seems to take the cake, as it was the first time it was directed at me."
"When he stepped out, I told my husband he needed to speak to him, and that the comment wasn’t okay."
"I went to change clothes and decided to never ever wear that shirt again."
"When I brought it up to my husband, he said he didn't hear the comment at first, but then he laughed when I told him what he said. He's always laughed when he feels awkward and has always had a hard time standing up to his parents in any capacity."
"When he and my father-in-law spoke, my FIL just said, 'I shouldn’t have said that to her, I know how she can be,' which just feels even more like I’m just being dramatic."
"Since then, I think my husband just wants me to drop it and move on, truthfully."
The OP wasn't sure what to do after what happened.
"This genuinely ruined my entire night. Am I just too sensitive, or was this an inappropriate thing to say?"
"There's also been no apology since then. This happened on Thursday, and then my father-in-law came by again on Friday with flowers to wish me a happy Mother's Day before Mother's Day Sunday."
"I think that was his way of trying to just breeze past the awkwardness. He's never gotten me a gift the whole seven years I've known him, so the flowers were odd. But I still feel really uncomfortable."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that her father-in-law's comments were rude and just plain creepy.
"NOR at all. That was really rude of him. Anyone would be offended." - Bookbringer
"NOR. That’s firmly in the category of what should be an 'inside thought,' and we should learn what those are at a much younger age than this guy is."
"F**king h**l, this is an absolutely mental thing to say out loud, let alone to your daughter-in-law." - Electronic-Fennel828
"FIL is an AH. I love that you think his being a redneck excuses it, but d**n. Even rednecks should know better than to speak that way to their son's wife."
"What does your husband have to say? Does he understand how breath-takingly rude his father was, or is he Team 'That's Just How He Is'?"
"I'd go very low contact with the old perv. NOR, he put you in an uncomfortable position with his crude remark. Is he married? I'd tell the MIL. I'd tell the whole family. Yes, it's embarrassing, but he is the one who should be embarrassed. Don't accept his non-apology." - Top-Bit85
"Maybe I’m desensitized after having large breasts since I was 13 (I’m 28 now), but I let out a little snort based on how immature of a joke it was. I’d simply tell FIL, 'Yes, I know, my boobs are big,' and move on."
"That said, I would never make such a comment about another person's body. Just because I'm technically fine with it doesn't mean I assume anyone else is!"
"Not everyone is the same, and if OP felt uncomfortable, she’s NOR. Her body, her boundaries." - Both_Original2094
"I’m sorry. That’s upsetting. My father is like this with his father. Even if it’s very offensive comments, he’s uncomfortable and has problems confronting him. It sounds like your husband isn’t going to have a talk with him, which is hurtful."
"I would explain to your husband how uncomfortable the situation was for you and that it’s a serious matter, especially if it happens again. And if he still tries to brush it off, then I would tell him you no longer want your FIL coming to your home."
"It’s your life, too, and he’s not the one being hurt here, you are." - w_coastultraviolence
Others were specifically angry about the tactics the father-in-law used to try to get out of trouble.
"Seriously? Saying 'I know how she can be' is a classic way to blame the victim for having boundaries. It’s your birthday, not a Hooters convention. What a creep. If he can’t look at the baby without checking out your breast, he shouldn't be invited to the house." - Specific_Parsnip3264
"'I know how she can be' is so f**ked up. He's the one being a disgusting person. You need to shine up your husband's spine to properly call him out at the time next time, because there will be a next time." - dancepantz
"The bit that pisses me off the most is, 'I know how she can be,' which is his way of making it her problem that she doesn't like her FiL sexualising her in front of her friends." - Outside-Partait-8935
"The 'joke' comment is gross, but that follow-up comment is infuriating. NOR, OP. But this guy will be in your life for a while, so firmly & calmly shutting this stuff down is completely appropriate."
"I'd wear the d**n shirt again to the next family function and look him right in the eyes next time!" - RationalFish
"When we let things like this slide for others, it's not long before it ends up on our doorstep, and of course, nobody says anything because keeping the peace is the norm. It doesn't have to be getting into their face and yelling abuse back. Just a comment such as, 'Well, that's super tacky to say,' or asking them why they'd say that." - Kattnapped
"The OP said, 'He's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years... but this is the first time it was directed to me.'"
"Normalise calling stuff out when they are talking about others, and they won't feel so comfortable saying it to you."
"It's a gross thing for him to say, but I guess him buying you flowers is his way of saying sorry."
"Sounds like you are in the situation of a lot of new mothers, where you suddenly realise this stuff matters because you want better influences for your child, and better support for yourself. NOR." - Jumpy-Jello-
Now, about that shirt...
"Please re-think your decision to never wear the cute shirt again, girl!! It's something that you liked very much because it made you feel good about yourself. Don't let some backwoods id**t ruin that for you."
"Wear that shirt till it's worn out and can't be worn anymore!! You should be able to feel good about yourself in whatever you like to wear."
"Your husband should have immediately checked his father, not waited until he was told to do so after his father left the room. In front of everyone there, your husband should have told his father not to ever speak about you or to you in that kind of manner, and if his father doesn't like it, he knows where the door is."
"Hubby should have called him out for his response as well. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were not the problem; his dad was. This comes down to your husband needing to protect his wife, and he didn't do that." - Lynzo141982
"If he is a redneck, like you said, he won't outright apologize, but flowers are his way of saying sorry."
"I hope he won't say anything again, or else you can expect a nicely tended garden for at least a year."
"About your top, I hope you can wear it again. It takes a lot to feel cute, being a new mum."
"If not, get some fabric dye, dye the top a different color, and embroider a flower on it. This makes the top new, different, and every time you wear it, you can use the mantra ... I'm cute, I don't care what anyone says."
"You've got this!!" - No_Kangaroo_6637
Even if the father-in-law was joking and meant no harm, this is one of those situations where he needs to admit that his joke did not land well, he did cause harm, and he needs to apologize. Just because some people enjoy joking in that manner does not mean that everyone will be comfortable with it, and it's important to respect everyone's boundaries and zones of comfort.