Anyone has ever been a teacher can attest to how hard it is to get a decent teacher job and to keep it. Finding a tenure-track job for decent pay in a desirable area is practically a unicorn.
So if an opportunity comes up to interview for one of these rare positions, the candidate in question should do anything they can to make sure that interview goes well, pointed out the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor ThrowRAisitworthit4 had struggled to find a new teaching position after their current contract expired, so they jumped at the opportunity for an interview for a tenure-track position in their discipline.
Their wife wanted to go with them to see the area, since it would require a move, which they were comfortable with, but when she walked in and interrupted the interview, the Original Poster (OP) was appalled and believed she'd lost the opportunity for them.
They asked the sub:
"Am I overreacting by being livid that my wife potentially cost me a job?"
The OP received, basically, a miracle job interview opportunity.
"My (38 Female) wife (35 Female) and I drove to a town two hours away for a last-minute interview for a tenure track position for me."
"It’s April, and if you know about teaching, you know that now is a pretty late time to get a job offer teaching at any university for the fall."
"But I have not had any bites besides this one, and I am in the humanities. My contract at my current college is over. I’m the breadwinner, and we NEED this job."
"It would also mean we need to pack up and move. Our lease is ending in June, and we NEED ANSWERS about what we will do next."
The OP's wife, Claire, went along for the interview to see the area.
"My wife, Claire, drove with me, and since we were in the same state, they didn’t provide a hotel. So Claire waited in the Panera on campus."
"After the interview, the dean asked if we could go to Panera for a coffee to finish our conversation. Two and a half hours went by, and I was sure Claire was bored, but she had a test to study for, so I hoped she would just make it work."
"I didn’t plan to introduce them. Neither of us wears a ring, and I’m never sure where people stand with homophobia and s**t... I want this job, and I can mention it later, after I'm locked in, you know. So I gave her a heads-up that we would be in there."
As the interview continued, Claire's behavior became questionable.
"The dean is…well, chatty. She talks about the school, but then tells lots of long anecdotes about her grandchildren with videos on her phone. It’s of course very boring, but I’m not in a position to give her anything but my rapt attention."
"Claire, however, is getting antsy. The weather is getting bad, so she starts pointing to her watch and waving her arms behind the dean. It’s super distracting, but I ignore her."
"I know if it’s an emergency, she’d say. She’s texting me. And I can see on my watch that she’s saying, 'It’s time to go!'"
"After about an hour of the dean talking, I can tell she’s getting ready to wrap up her stories, she gets back to the job. She said, 'I want to offer you this job, but I have one question. Do you think you’ll be able to move in four months? That’s short notice. Do you have anyone else to consider?'"
"I know she’s trying to find out if I have a family."
"Claire, at this moment, as if she is on cue, comes over and says, 'I see you guys are getting to know each other, and I think that’s wonderful, but Sheryl and I have left our pet at home alone should really be getting on the road.'"
"My best friend is our next-door neighbor and ALWAYS takes Drama potty if we need, and she knows that’s not an issue!"
"The dean was taken aback but said, 'Oh! Um, okay! Well, Sheryl, we will be in touch.'"
"I am LIVID."
"AIO?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
- NOR: Not Overreacting
- YOR: You're Overreacting
Some argued that Claire shouldn't have gone on the trip, but if she was going to, she should have known to wait outside.
"Why did your wife, who had a test to study for, come with you on a long trip (two hours there and very long interview and two hours back) where she was bored the whole time, instead of staying at home? That sounds very codependent to me." - Keytarfriend
"I have a feeling that it’s because op MIGHT talk to another woman and have a conversation that Claire isn’t there to monitor." - TraumaHawk316
"NOR. Your wife should not have even been with you on the trip for an interview." - Useful-Noise-4321
"For any faculty interview, unless a spouse is specifically invited, you go alone. I work in administration at a university. I know what hiring faculty entails. It’s not something that can be rushed."
"It’s a huge commitment for the school to make to you, as well as a huge commitment from you to the school. Tenure track is no joke. They’re looking at giving you an in-contested position and salary."
"Barring being the top person in your field and bringing with you the ability to bring in millions of dollars in donor or grant funding, if there’s any reason they can’t depend on you or they think you will be a problem, they won’t hire you."
"I’m glad your friend was able to give you an inside scoop, but your wife could have seriously screwed up your chances simply by being there, let alone interrupting and effectively ending the interview." - Exciting-Froyo3825
"I, too, tagged along when my husband had to drive ALL along the length of California (a very long state indeed) to find a tenure track job more than 20 years ago. He had a ridiculous number of interviews in a span of a month and a half!"
"Where possible, we clumped them together. If it wasn’t possible, we would have to drive hours just to get there. It was a lot, and my husband knew I was there. Heck, we even practiced interviewing during the ride. I helped drive so he could nap, I made sure his tie was on straight, made sure he ate well, and I sent him off to the interviews."
"What I did NOT do was be anywhere where I would interfere. He was emotionally wrung out and appreciated my helping with the drive. I d**n sure would have vacated Panera so as to not be a distraction! Your wife doesn’t sound at all reasonable!" - TurbulentRoof7538
Others simply reassured the OP that they were not overreacting by being upset about potentially missing out on such a big opportunity.
"NOR. Claire did all she could to sabotage you, without putting the car into a ditch on the way there."
"Sit down and ask her: You were rather desperate to end my interview. Was there a reason for that? (And no, the dog isn't a reason.)" - el_grande_ricardo
"Your wife blew your job. I’d not hire you over her interference, not because you’re gay but because of the lack of social skills from her that I would perceive to be a you problem, too, since you married her." - tcmits1
"I’d be worried that this is the type of spouse who would be constantly disruptive, showing up on campus, or demanding OP come home for never-ending ' 'emergencies,' ruining faculty get-togethers by insisting they leave early if they go at all. Yikes." - Tennessee1977
"A former acquaintance, a super smart and seriously nice professor, gradually became marginalized in his department and university because of his helicopter mom wife. She was constantly fighting with their children’s teachers, even suing them and the school."
"This was in a small university town, so everyone knew everyone, and his wife became infamous for her antics. She seemed like such a nice lady, too, but where her kids were concerned, she turned into The Hulk."
"If I were considering hiring someone with a potentially temperamental/ erratic spouse, I would definitely hesitate and give greater weight to the candidate with less baggage because you just never know when they might say or do something that would blow back on the university." - Hari_om_tat_sat
"I once brought my husband to an important work event and waited around… in a nice hotel lounge, drinking coffee, having lunch, and reading. He texted when he was done and waited for the ten minutes it took me to get him."
"Never have someone wait for an unknown period of time again."
"NOR for being livid that she potentially ruined your new job, though."
"And even more so because she doubled down. Does she still not understand what she did was bonkers?" - Technical-Paper427
After receiving feedback, the OP shared an uncertain update.
"My friend is friends with one of the teachers there. She said the Dean offered another candidate the job, but she turned it down because of the salary, and she got a tenure-track line from her first choice."
"So I’m next on the list! I’m angry because that means it probably kicked me down from being her first choice, but grateful other candidate got her first choice and could say no to this job."
"For those of you who asked why’d I brought her, she asked to come. She wanted to see the town, and I thought it would be cool if I had two hours to practice my talk."
"I had no idea the dean was going to offer to go to Panera. She took me in her personal car for a tour and then said she wanted to take me to get Panera to continue talking."
"Claire was close enough to hear the conversation and realized it (the job arrangement) wasn’t what she thought made sense, so she decided to interrupt. I didn’t plan to introduce her because it was my interview and not a good time to do that, in my opinion."
"In the car, Claire doubled down on it, saying that she shouldn’t be made the villain because she cares about safety."
Even if Claire had the best of intentions, sabotaging her partner's interview because she thought it wasn't a good fit, rather than letting them earn the job on their own and then deciding if it was the right track or not, was totally the wrong move.
Couples have to make all kinds of hard decisions together, and if this wasn't the right job, even if few seemed to be available, they could have decided that together, rather than Claire ruining the chance for her wife to get a very competitive job.















Woman Irate After 'Misogynistic' Date 'Insults' Her In Front Of Waiter For Interrupting Him
While dating is supposed to be fun and the best way to find new love, some people are just not meant to date each other.
Fortunately, people can get out of dating someone, and no reason is too small or petty, members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subreddit pointed out.
Redditor Mental_Driver_6134 had been dating a guy on and off for over a year, and while things were okay, there hadn't been a particular reason to make the relationship more serious.
When they went on a date, and the guy publicly insulted her for interrupting him and speaking out of turn, the Original Poster (OP) was not certain it was worth going on another date with him or continuing to string this situationship along.
She asked the sub:
At a restaurant, the OP's date wasn't being clear while speaking with the waiter.
"I went on a dinner date with this guy who I've been with for over a year now, on and off. We discussed the order and were in a good mood overall."
"When the waiter came to take the order, he started explaining him something about his preference for a particular dish. Basically, he didn't want too much garlic in chili burnt garlic noodles."
"Everything was going fine, but I saw that he was taking too much time explaining it and wasn't really getting to the main point, which was less garlic."
"I chimed in and casually said, 'We just want less garlic.'"
"But I couldn't even complete the sentence before he said to me in front of the waiter, 'If you're gonna cut me off like this, I'm not giving any orders, okay?!' in the rudest way possible."
The moment ruined the date for the OP.
"I just went quiet after that. He quickly realized that he made a mistake and tried to cover up by saying that, 'Okay , I won't shout at you next time onwards.'"
"I was really p**sed off but didn't react much to avoid creating a scene."
"On our way back home, he started with his explanation. He said that I tried to make him feel small by cutting him off and lacked basic etiquette and that I should have at least said, 'Can I give my opinion here?- before cutting him off."
"It kept getting worse as he said that since he was the older one and 'The Man,' I should not have interrupted him and let him give the order."
"The whole tone was so misogynistic."
"He even mocked me for not knowing how to use chopsticks properly, which I didn't mind as basic banter, and I told him that there are forks and spoons kept here; it's not necessary to use the chopsticks (he ended up dropping his dumpling while explaining to me how to use chopsticks)."
"When the noodles came, he said that we could use forks then, and I was like, 'No, why not use chopsticks here, as well? You should watch more anime, maybe,' and he then went on to brag about having been to many five-star restaurants, which implied that he knew more than me and that I lacked any 'real experience.'"
The OP was over it by the end of the conversation.
"I was too exhausted from this; it seemed so nonsensical that I left later and told him to maintain a distance."
"Later he was saying that I'm stuck on such a small thing and that he won't shout again, but it was my mistake that I tried to cut him off (which wasn't my intention at all)."
"Also, sidenote: He's like four and a half years older than me. I met him last September and on and off many times with a few months of minimal contact. These offs end with him acting as if nothing happened."
"This incident was the calmest he's behaved if compared to past situations, so you can guess what the worst may have looked like."
"I only gave him a chance cause he was trying to control his anger issues. But I think you can't expect a 29-year-old to fix the misogyny."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that she was right to be upset.
"He was s**tty, but it was her fault; I just love that. NOR."
"If she hadn’t interrupted his highness, none of this would have happened. Why can’t she just admit it?"
"I’m so glad I’m long out of the dating pool. There is no bar anymore; it’s what can I get from you while I treat you like s**t. Man, the good old days of dating are long over." - Shadow4summer
"NOR. The 'I'm the man' line revealed everything OP needs to know about him. He couldn't handle a simple, harmless interruption, so he tried to humiliate her in public to regain control. Taking his own dumpling dive while trying to act superior is peak karma, honestly." - virelaczi
"NOR! If a 'small' man tries to put you down in public on a date, run the eff away! It doesn’t matter if it’s two dates, two months, or two YEARS!" - Delicious_Winner_819
"Not overreacting, this man is clearly insecure and controlling. Not to mention a misogynist. Instead of being on and off, just be off. It's better to be single than to be with someone who tries to make you feel less than." - curiouscuriel
"'I know better than you.'"
"Should tell you ALL you need to know about this 'man'. Go and find somebody who will treat you as their person... and not an object. That is what is not sitting right with you."
"NOR. And bloody run!!! I wouldn't even give him the time of day after an experience like that." - pootling_1976
"My ex would constantly say, 'You're interrupting me.' I was not. He was a psycho."
"This is how it went, for example:"
"Him: I am ordering chicken and snow peas and white rice [long pause]."
"I start to say ANYTHING (the place is on effing fire!), and he would berate me, 'You interrupted me, you ALWAYS do that, I can never speak, blah, blah blah.'"
"I say, 'Lucifer (what I call him behind his back), you took a long pause. I waited, and I thought you were done.'"
"Then THAT becomes a pile of s**t convo, more berating... He was so manipulative and verbally abusive; I cannot even scratch the surface here."
"So, no. That date is a Lucifer, and you should never even speak to him again." - Belmontisnowhideous
Others pointed out that the OP didn't have to keep dating him if this is how she felt about him.
"Great news! You do not need to spend any more time with this guy." - Blue-flash
"If you marry this guy, this behavior will only get worse. He doesn’t respect women, and he probably never will. I'd stop dating him now before you waste more time." - Additional-Start9455
"NOR. Don’t waste another minute of your life on an angry man. He’ll get worse, not better. Just find a guy who doesn’t need fixing." - Broad_Pomegranate141
"I mean, him being an insufferable smug jerk is not a small thing."
"'I went on a dinner date with this guy who I've been with for over a year now, on and off.' But this strikes me as an elephant in the room."
"It isn't often that good, healthy relationships are on and off again. And given how profoundly rude he was, how immediately he doubled down, how condescending, etc., I can't help but think this isn't the first time he's been gross as a partner."
"NOR, but really ask yourself what you're doing here. This can't be the life you hoped for, and you know he isn't going to change as well." - Traeyze
"NOR. There's no way to live with this kind of man, honestly, and OP should definitely leave this guy."
"A year of on and off with kind of behavior is basically a preview of the next ten." - NoEar4226
"NOR. I've broken up with guys like that by telling them they were right all along. I'm just not smart enough for him. He deserves someone on his own level..."
"Hopefully he picks up the hint and does some self-reflection for his future dates (with other women)."
"For what it's worth, I have two post-graduate degrees." - PomeloPepper
"When someone treats you like s**t, you do NOT have to stay with them, no matter how long you've been together."
"Unfortunately, my therapist had to explain this to me a short time after I started seeing her because my parents never gave me any autonomy to make my own decisions. I didn’t know that I could just leave places that I didn’t feel safe in because it wasn’t an option for me until then."
"Some people do need to be given permission to do what’s best for them because of the way they were treated by their parents."
"Hopefully she does leave him because he sucks, and with the way he treats her, things will likely get worse for her." - Accomplished_Dig284
We've all heard the advice to not cry over spilled milk, but clearly, this date must fuss over garlicky noodles.
To the subReddit, it wasn't worth continuing to date a man who clearly had anger and control issues, especially given everything going on in society right now.
The OP would be better off staying single for a while or dating someone new, preferably someone who respects their differences about noodles and chopsticks.